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This draft smacks of The Microcredit Bazaar on some levels (in that it's voluntary, and it sets up branches in member nations), but I figured I might as well try it, as this is an issue that I, surrounded it seems by small business owners, feel a lot for. This is really the first draft, so nothing is too firm or decided.


The General Assembly of the United Nations,

ASCERTAINING the drive to economic enterprise by individuals as great, and as a large part of many individuals’ paths toward happiness,

UNDERSTANDING the greater realization of this drive should each individual have greater knowledge regarding economic enterprise, specifically small business enterprise, in relation to their surroundings and local economies,

RECALLING the many other positive things (besides the possible fulfillment of happiness for some individuals) which may come about when a healthy number of citizens engage in small business,

DETERMINING this drive towards personal achievement universal enough of for the United Nations to support and encourage,

1. ENCOURAGES member nations in which there are free market or semi-free market economic systems to have compassion on those entrepreneurs who begin small businesses in the retail, agriculture, manufacturing, technology, etc. industries by assigning those businesses or citizens tax breaks or by helping provide the necessary technical support and infrastructure resources or in any way a member nation and its people may determine a possible route to decrease the difficulties of starting and owning a small business;

2. CONDONES the use subsidies to allow small businesses to compete against larger national or international corporations so long as such subsidizing of small business is considered dutifully for its effects on the national and regional workforce, and in moderation;

3. CREATES “The United Nations Small Business Classroom” (“The UNSBC”), which may operate in all consenting member nations simultaneously, with a great or little of a presence in each nation as described by each national government (this including the content of “The UNSBC” in a member nation, as well as location of “The UNSBC” facilities) and in which staffing will be determined by individual member nations, overseen by UN officials;

4. DESIGNATES “The United Nations Small Business Classroom” as an organization intended, mostly, to educate small business owners, and prospective small business owners on how to run, begin, and operate a small business, as well as provide market data to small business owners or prospective small business owners;

5. ALLOWS member nations to add curricula, specifically regarding local, provincial, and national laws, to “The United Nations Small Business Classroom” so far as additional staffing, if necessary, is provided and paid by the member nation;

6. URGES member nations to allow citizens a say in “The United Nations Small Business Classroom” in their member nation, be it through written or spoken feedback, through ombudsmen, local referenda, etc.;

7. DESIGNATES “The United Nations Small Business Classroom” as an organization which may also, should it be within the agreement between an individual branch of “The UNSBC” and the member nation in which it resides, produce literature concerning small businesses and national/regional markets, service regional citizens, educate new citizens in the economic workings of the member nation, and provide general services to the education of those in a member nation on that nation and its economy;

8. DISALLOWS member nations from charging more than a flat, relatively small fee, which objective research indicates the majority of the impoverished in that nation could likely pay, for access to “The United Nations Small Business Classroom”, and DESIGNATES that fee to first go toward the running of “The UNSBC” and the payment of its employees.


Comments, questions, concerns, lollipops?

We have asked our Government to forward a small package of lollipops which we shall present to the distinguished representative of Powerhungry Chipmunks. ;)

Seriously.... We see this as a fine idea for a means by which the UN can have a positive influence on the quality of life of people throughout its member nations while maintaining complete respect for the sovereignty of nations and cultural end economic differences among them.

While it could be argued that this should be left up to individual nations to do, we believe that it can be done much more cost-effectively by taking advantage of economies of scale. We believe the UN is positioned to do this.

As always, we look forward to learning from the debate on this proposal. We will likely have some suggestions for minor editorial changes as a final draft nears completion.

Patrick T. Olembe
Minister for Foreign Affairs

We appreciate the objectives of this proposition, as we think economic freedom is missing in UN resolutions.

but we don't understand the following:

1. ENCOURAGES member nations in which there are free market or semi-free market economic systems to have compassion...

what about the others nations? Aren't the problems this proposition try to resolve more present in nations not concerned by this proposition?

will it be possible to enlarge this proposition to all nations?

Abso-bloody-lutely. I like this!

We appreciate the objectives of this proposition, as we think economic freedom is missing in UN resolutions.

but we don't understand the following:

1. ENCOURAGES member nations in which there are free market or semi-free market economic systems to have compassion...

what about the others nations? Aren't the problems this proposition try to resolve more present in nations not concerned by this proposition?

will it be possible to enlarge this proposition to all nations?
It had better not.

Mathieu Vergniaud
Deputy Speaker to the UN

We appreciate the objectives of this proposition, as we think economic freedom is missing in UN resolutions.

but we don't understand the following:

1. ENCOURAGES member nations in which there are free market or semi-free market economic systems to have compassion...

what about the others nations? Aren't the problems this proposition try to resolve more present in nations not concerned by this proposition?

will it be possible to enlarge this proposition to all nations?

I think the Powerhungry Chipmunks are wanting this to apply to the UN nations, as they are the only nations affected by UN resolutions.

The Republic of New Poitiers is in full support of this resolution. Big multinational firms destroy the competition, and although we strive to keep small businesses going, this would give them more of a chance against the bigger multi-million artois companies.

To clarify on my earlier - somewhat terse - comment, I see no need to extend this to nations that do not operate a market-based economic system. Many nations choose to adopt a centralised system that serve them very well. It may not suit many of the representatives here - indeed, it does not suit Ecopoeia - but those nations that take this approach and combine it with good governance should not be subject to the conditions imposed by this proposal.

I am undecided on my own position with respect to the proposal; it's not entirely to my taste but I don't feel it does any harm.

MV

I have to ask - what's with the somewhat off kilter names for early submissions, PC? The Travelling Microcredit Bazaar, and now the UN Small Business Classroom.

I think the Powerhungry Chipmunks are wanting this to apply to the UN nations, as they are the only nations affected by UN resolutions.

it seems to us that the author by stating:

1. ENCOURAGES member nations in which there are free market or semi-free market economic systems to have compassion ...

don't want to encourage all UN nations do follow his good proposition, but only those Nations who already do it.

=> Even if we agree with this proposition, we think it will send the wrong message to for example the 3,527 Psychotic Dictatorship nations in the world and many others who opress thier people by not allowing them economic freedom

(we don't know how many of the 3527 Psychotic Dictatorship nations are UN members, but for sure a lot)

http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/target=nationstats


Many nations choose to adopt a centralised system that serve them very well. It may not suit many of the representatives here

even if a Nation decide to have a centralized system, a government cannot do by itself 100% of the economic activity without destroying the economy:
-this destroy creativity & innovation
-this restrict the freedom of citizens
-this obviously create an giant buraucracy and hierarchy which then have a say in everyday life aspect

even if a Nation decide to have a centralized system, a government cannot do by itself 100% of the economic activity without destroying the economy:
-this destroy creativity & innovation
-this restrict the freedom of citizens
-this obviously create an giant buraucracy and hierarchy which then have a say in everyday life aspect

If what I am about to say makes no sense or is totally wrong, please keep in mind I am clueless about economic stuff and be gentle :).

Private enterprise is illegal in our nation and we manage quite well with our centralised system. Our economy is strong and we have a trade surplus.

If any of our citizens feel they are being restricted in any way by our economic policies, then they are quite free to immigrate to any nation that they wish to and that espouses their wants and needs. We aren't a dictatorship and our borders are open.

This proposal doesn't worry us much because it doesn't mandate anything. Because it doesn't really apply to our nation, we can accept it as law, but would not have to apply it in practice. If it does change to something that attempts to force private enterprise and/or capitalisim on our nation, we will fight it tooth and nail.

If what I am about to say makes no sense or is totally wrong, please keep in mind I am clueless about economic stuff and be gentle :).

Private enterprise is illegal in our nation and we manage quite well with our centralised system. Our economy is strong and we have a trade surplus.

If any of our citizens feel they are being restricted in any way by our economic policies, then they are quite free to immigrate to any nation that they wish to and that espouses their wants and needs. We aren't a dictatorship and our borders are open.

This proposal doesn't worry us much because it doesn't mandate anything. Because it doesn't really apply to our nation, we can accept it as law, but would not have to apply it in practice. If it does change to something that attempts to force private enterprise and/or capitalisim on our nation, we will fight it tooth and nail.


if this proposition was encouraging all nations, you will not need to change anything

Furthermore, there is an obvious error in this game:

when you have already reach 100% of average income tax rate
=> your government can easily spend all the money he want as you will stay at 100%, but in reality you will have a deficit and to borrow money
=> the years after you will have to repay, but not in this game
and if you continue your economy will collapse

=> it's so easy to have a strong economy with 100% taxes in this game
maybe time to stop the hypocrisy
Who are the real fluffy? that is the question

if this proposition was encouraging all nations, you will not need to change anything

Furthermore, there is an obvious error in this game:

when you have already reach 100% of average income tax rate
=> your government can easily spend all the money he want as you will stay at 100%, but in reality you will have a deficit and to borrow money
=> the years after you will have to repay, but not in this game
and if you continue your economy will collapse

=> it's so easy to have a strong economy with 100% taxes in this game
maybe time to stop the hypocrisy
Who are the real fluffy? that is the question

Sorry, I didn't realise I was being a hypocrite and what do you mean by "real fluffy", I don't understand. I did say in my last post that I am clueless about economic stuff and believe me, I wasn't kidding.

(OOC)This is a game. Our nations are fake, their economies are fake, our populations are fake. None of it exists. I'm playing with what the game has provided me to play with, and that includes a strong economy with %100 taxation and illegal private enterprise. I could try to pretend my nation is something its not, but decided long ago to play all my nations as they appear on their discriptions page.

I think we all need to step back sometimes and remember this game isn't real life or meant to be real life. It started out as a satrical advertisment for a book. Playing it is supposed to be fun, not an exercise akin to having a tooth pulled without anaesthetic ;).

Sorry, I didn't realise I was being a hypocrite and what do you mean by "real fluffy", I don't understand. I did say in my last post that I am clueless about economic stuff and believe me, I wasn't kidding.

ok, escuse me, please forgive me, but so many nations accused me of "fluffy", after adoption&ivf and wordwide media act ...
sorry;)

OOC:
BTW - it's only 100% income tax. There are many other forms of tax that could not be counted. I know it's splitting hairs, but if you're going to be pedantic about the economy within this game, better make sure you've got it right.

OOC:
BTW - it's only 100% income tax. There are many other forms of tax that could not be counted. I know it's splitting hairs, but if you're going to be pedantic about the economy within this game, better make sure you've got it right.

100% of average income tax rate

=> absolutly all income in their totality are versed by the administrations to citizens

=> no salary, no profits

how can you go higher?

you can have others taxes but obvioulsy they will be artificial, this will only change the accountancy lines

OOC:
BTW - it's only 100% income tax. There are many other forms of tax that could not be counted. I know it's splitting hairs, but if you're going to be pedantic about the economy within this game, better make sure you've got it right.


sorry to be pedantic about economy
but this is why we wanted solar panel repealed, didn't we?

if solar panel would not have had any negative effect about economy, i would never have been the co-author of its repeal

First, let me take the opportunity to iterate the most important thing about ths proposal: it's about education (hence the name "UN Small Business Classroom"), Many perspective entrepenuers do not have the know-how or the experience to follow their ambitions of running a small business. They don't know how it would run, and don't know what local markets are like and don't know how to construct a business model. The idea of this proposal is for the UN to help interested governments in providing knowledge to those who would do something costructive with it.

Besides that, I think the most important thing is, like the Microcredit Bazaar, it's voluntary. So if your nation doesn't want to encourage small business ownership (for any reason), or has a better system already in place on a national level, then you don't have to have a Classroom in your nation.
it seems to us that the author by stating:

1. ENCOURAGES member nations in which there are free market or semi-free market economic systems to have compassion ...

don't want to encourage all UN nations do follow his good proposition, but only those Nations who already do it.

=> Even if we agree with this proposition, we think it will send the wrong message to for example the 3,527 Psychotic Dictatorship nations in the world and many others who opress thier people by not allowing them economic freedom

(we don't know how many of the 3527 Psychotic Dictatorship nations are UN members, but for sure a lot)
First, that link is awesome, thanks for providing it (it's like Christmas every day here :))

Second, yeah I don't want this to apply to "every" nation. Mainly because this is irrelevant to non-free market nations. If a government controls all industry, I would be wasting that government's (and the peoples') resources and time in encouraging them to help small business owners (since there are, essentially, none). Perhaps it's unjust for a government to control all business, but I'm trying hard not to make that the issue of this proposal.

To clarify on my earlier - somewhat terse - comment, I see no need to extend this to nations that do not operate a market-based economic system. Many nations choose to adopt a centralised system that serve them very well. It may not suit many of the representatives here - indeed, it does not suit Ecopoeia - but those nations that take this approach and combine it with good governance should not be subject to the conditions imposed by this proposal.

Exactly. I don't want to ostracize those UN nations that have functioning and just central or command economies. And the provision about encouraging small business owners through subsidies, tax credits, etc. really would be wasted on them (even though it's just "ENCOURAGING").

Of course, any nation is allowed to get a UN Small Business Classroom. The "free market economy" qualification is only there for being encouraged to find market solutions to encouraging small business owners (like I said before, tax credits, subsidies, etc.).

I have to ask - what's with the somewhat off kilter names for early submissions, PC? The Travelling Microcredit Bazaar, and now the UN Small Business Classroom.I was...uh...

Hit in the head?

First, let me take the opportunity to iterate the most important thing about ths proposal: it's about education (hence the name "UN Small Business Classroom"),

i really like your intention here



Exactly. I don't want to ostracize those UN nations that have functioning and just central or command economies. And the provision about encouraging small business owners through subsidies, tax credits, etc. really would be wasted on them (even though it's just "ENCOURAGING").


i really don't see where we will waste our time by ENCOURAGING, it will not cost us anything and will maybe help these Nations to improve their economy, then maybe they will be less ostracized

if some nations decide democratically to have a centralized economy, it's their business, but they don't have to deprive their citizen from their right to create an economic activity

Heavilly recommend a renaming

When I looked at this, I thought you were talking about basically the classroom becoming small business oriented (as in....small businesses taking over schools). Obviously, this would not go over too well with the UN body.

Love and esterel will probably approves this proposition, despite the fact that we are very sad that once again the UN will send a wrong message to those nations who don't respect economic freedom.

Anyway, please, is it possible to add in the resolution something to encourages the simplification, for small businesses, of administratives procedures by the use of administrative web services?

Even if this proposal dosen't make it to a vote, i'm sure my government would like to try something like these practical ideas back home.

more businesses around is a good thing. Governments get more tax, jobs are created and theres more disposable income in the economy.

We agree that encouragement is a better method of persuasion. You're likely to listen to somebody who speaks softly than to a person carrying a big stick.

We agree that encouragement is a better method of persuasion. You're likely to listen to somebody who speaks softly than to a person carrying a big stick.

i agree with you there, you are so right

Heavilly recommend a renaming

When I looked at this, I thought you were talking about basically the classroom becoming small business oriented (as in....small businesses taking over schools). Obviously, this would not go over too well with the UN body.
As the drafting continues, I'll consider it. I'm sincerely (perhaps prematurely) hoping our UN membership has moved beyond the days where they expect proposers to offer one-sizxe-fits-all, unpragmatic, unreasonable solutions in their proposals, but I will certainly err on the side of clear passage (as opposed to the hope that the UN has rejected it's past as a One World Order).

Out of curiosity, what might it be called? I'm blank right now (probably due to tiredness) on what an suitable alternative would be.

What about calling this 'the small business encouragement act'?

it seems to cover in a few words the whole point of the proposal and it won't be misunderstood.

To clarify on my earlier - somewhat terse - comment, I see no need to extend this to nations that do not operate a market-based economic system.


On which grounds do you deprive people of their freedom to create a economic activity or small business?

You can regulate businesses even strongly, but please let people be free

The UN = United Nations
and not United people behind their computers

it's not your liberty to be a North-Korean communist style regime

it's the liberty of your people which is at stake

the natsov argument (as natural/traditionnal/religious) is not an argument by itself

This will be an OOC post.

On which grounds do you deprive people of their freedom to create a economic activity or small business?

You can regulate businesses even strongly, but please let people be free

I'm going to try to clear something up here. There are two types of liberty in common political/philosophical terms. Positive liberty and negative liberty. Negative liberty (freedom from government coercion) is what you apparently favor here. You don't want governments to stop people from making economic ventures. Socialists, communists, and proponents of other systems based on economic equality often favor what is known as positive liberty, which is taking away negative liberty (generally through taxation/wealth re-distribution) in order to ensure positive liberty so as to provide fairness/equality in economics and alleviate poverty as a result of economic oppression.

I don't happen to think that positive liberty is the route to go, but I can understand other folks' perspective on it.

the natsov argument (as natural/traditionnal/religious) is not an argument by itself

Yeah, Eco. Don't go using that national sovereignty argument again. Ahahahahahahaha! Hahahaha! Hehe. :D

Socialists, communists, and proponents of other systems based on economic equality often favor what is known as positive liberty, which is taking away negative liberty (generally through taxation/wealth re-distribution) in order to ensure positive liberty so as to provide fairness/equality in economics and alleviate poverty as a result of economic oppression.

Love and esterel favour some action who provide fairness/equality in economics as taxation/wealth re-distribution.

but once again our world is not a BLACK & WHITE one
it's a complex world

=> We have to find balanced solutions which combine:
- economic freedom; AND
- fairness/equality in economics/taxation/wealth re-distribution.

It's not easy to achieve to be balanced,

But for sure, the real fluffy are those who choose only one of the 2 without caring of the other one

but once again our world is not a BLACK & WHITE one it's a complex world

I never proposed a black & white world, so I'm not sure why you're bringing this up.

=> We have to find balanced solutions which combine:
- economic freedom; AND
- fairness/equality in economics/taxation/wealth re-distribution.

It's not easy to achieve to be balanced,

I agree.

But for sure, the real fluffy are those who choose only one of the 2 without caring of the other one

Perhaps. I'd rather not paint with such a broad brush.;)

Yeah, Eco. Don't go using that national sovereignty argument again. Ahahahahahahaha! Hahahaha! Hehe. :D
OOC: Indeed. I'm in the office at the mo and I nearly crapped myself trying to stifle my laughter.

IC: I specifically pointed out that Ecopoeia does not operate a centralised economy, merely that we support those countries that do so with the proviso that their peoples are not socially and politically oppressed. Ecopoeia happens to allow for a moderate amount of economic freedom, though purely on a small scale. It is my view that extensive economic freedoms serve only to impinge on social freedoms, which I value more highly. Many Ecopoeians agree with me, many do not. Our extensive - some would say excessive - political freedoms ensure that all voices are heard.

To highlight my earlier point, the Arco-Nation of SeOCC and the Republic of Celdonia combine punitive tax regimes and highly planned economies with enviable civil liberties and representative, democratic political systems. Their economies boom (some might say to excess). It would be foolhardy to destroy what they have achieved, simply in the name of 'economic freedom'.

MV

To highlight my earlier point, the Arco-Nation of SeOCC and the Republic of Celdonia combine punitive tax regimes and highly planned economies with enviable civil liberties and representative, democratic political systems. Their economies boom (some might say to excess). It would be foolhardy to destroy what they have achieved, simply in the name of 'economic freedom'.

Well, and this is just a minor quibble, I think my first clause is taking a little less one-sided approach to the issue. I mean, rather than saying "we shouldn't force those without free-market systems into compliance because they deserve to have their non-free-market systems."

I see it as more saying "whether or not a nation has a free market system is not the issue here, and since there are currently both free market and non-free-market systems out there, it makes sense not to include the non-free-market systems."

Like I said, it's just a minor difference. Neutrality towards command economies, rather than an explicit defence of them.

Well, and this is just a minor quibble, I think my first clause is taking a little less one-sided approach to the issue. I mean, rather than saying "we shouldn't force those without free-market systems into compliance because they deserve to have their non-free-market systems."

I see it as more saying "whether or not a nation has a free market system is not the issue here, and since there are currently both free market and non-free-market systems out there, it makes sense not to include the non-free-market systems."

Like I said, it's just a minor difference. Neutrality towards command economies, rather than an explicit defence of them.
Which is a nifty approach, in my view.

MV

As my last sugestion was lost amid another point of the debate, i hope you don't mind i post it again:

is it possible to add in the resolution something to encourages the simplification, for small businesses, of administratives procedures by the use of administrative web services?

As my last sugestion was lost amid another point of the debate, i hope you don't mind i post it again:

is it possible to add in the resolution something to encourages the simplification, for small businesses, of administratives procedures by the use of administrative web services?
That's an interesting idea.

I mean, when I first read it, it seemed like it would be a bit redundant, since it's the purpose of the classroom to encourage and educate small business owners and potential small business owners on how to run their businesses well (which would include that). But, now that I think about it, that doesn't preclude a recommendation to small business owners to actually implement those things taught at the Classroom.

So, how about something like this?##.HIGHLY ENCOURAGES small business owners and potential small business owners to enact, in their small businesses, recommendations acquired through "The United Nations Small Business Classroom"; and RECOMMENDS positive business practices, such as simplification of support services, and administrative procedures, and competitive techniques for choosing a vendor to all small business owners or potential small business owners.

It'd probably need to be tweaked a bit, but I'm thinking that's what it would look like.

Alright, after a little bit of neglect, I figured I'd get a new draft out there. I'll put changes in red.

The General Assembly of the United Nations,

ASCERTAINING drive to economic enterprise by individuals [phrasing deleted] as a large part of many individuals’ paths toward happiness,

UNDERSTANDING that greater realization of this drive could be effected, if each individual were to have greater knowledge regarding economic enterprise, specifically small business enterprise, in relation to their surroundings and local economies,

RECALLING [word deleted] many other positive things (besides the possible fulfillment of happiness for some individuals) which may come about when a healthy number of citizens engage in small business,

DETERMINING the drive towards personal achievement universal enough for the United Nations to support and encourage,

1. ENCOURAGES member nations in which there are free market or semi-free market economic systems to have compassion on those entrepreneurs who begin small businesses in the retail, agriculture, manufacturing, technology, etc. industries by assigning those businesses or citizens tax breaks or by helping provide the necessary technical support and infrastructure resources or in any way a member nation and its people may determine a possible route to decrease the difficulties of starting and owning a small business;

2. ENCOURAGES small business owners and potential small business owners to research and acquire intelligent and sensible business practices from reputable sources; and RECOMMENDS positive business practices--such as simplification of support services, and administrative procedures, use of computer technologies and competitive techniques for choosing vendors--be enacted by all small business owners;

3. CONDONES the use of subsidies to allow small businesses to compete against larger national or international corporations so long as such subsidizing of small business is considered dutifully for its effects on the national and regional workforce, and used only in just moderation;

4. CREATES “The United Nations Small Business Classroom” (“The UNSBC”), which may operate branches in all consenting member nations simultaneously with as large or small of a presence in each nation as desired by each national government ("presence" including the content of “The UNSBC” branch in a member nation, as well as location(s) of “The UNSBC” branch facilities): with staffing to be determined by individual member nations, overseen by UN officials;

5. DESIGNATES “The United Nations Small Business Classroom” as an organization intended, primarily, to educate small business owners, and prospective small business owners on how to begin, run, and operate a small business [phrases deleted];

6. ALLOWS member nations to add curricula--especially regarding local, provincial or national laws, or market research--to “The United Nations Small Business Classroom” so far as additional staffing, if necessary, is provided and salaried by the member nation;

7. URGES member nations to allow citizens say in “The United Nations Small Business Classroom” branch(es) in their member nation, be it through written or spoken feedback, through ombudsmen, local referenda, etc.;

8. DESIGNATES “The United Nations Small Business Classroom” as an organization which may also, should it be within the agreement between “The UNSBC” and the member nation in which a branch resides, produce literature concerning small businesses and national/regional markets, service regional citizens, educate new citizens in the economic workings of the member nation--or educate and facilitate a member nations citizens in any way so long as that service is reasonably related to economics, and approved by UN oversight;

9. DISALLOWS member nations from charging more than a flat, relatively small fee (approved by UN oversight), for access a “The United Nations Small Business Classroom” branch, and DESIGNATES that fee to first go toward the running of “The UNSBC” and the payment of its employees.

One thing I changed was a consistent use of the word "branch". This, I think, makes it clearer that there can be multiple classrooms operating at once (both "multiple" within a nation, and "multiple" within the whole of the UN). Also, I tried to trim some of the language and uses dashes to simplify the language and make it easier to read. It still has a long way to go in that regard, but this isn't the final draft, I don't think, so I imagine still have time to make it more reader friendly.

i was reading a news article and by pure hasard, the article was mentionning the real life US "Small Business Act".

one of the important point of the "Small Business Act" is:

It is the declared policy of the Congress that the Government should aid, counsel, assist, and protect, insofar as is possible, the interests of small-business concerns in order to preserve free competitive enterprise, to insure that a fair proportion of the total purchases and contracts or subcontracts for property and services for the Government (including but not limited to contracts or subcontracts for maintenance, repair, and construction) be placed with small business enterprises

i never heard about that before, but i really think it can be a very good idea to add in the "Small Business Classroom " proposal

http://www.sba.gov/regulations/sbaact/sbaact.html § 2.(a)

It is the declared policy of the Congress that the Government should aid, counsel, assist, and protect, insofar as is possible, the interests of small-business concerns in order to preserve free competitive enterprise, to insure that a fair proportion of the total purchases and contracts or subcontracts for property and services for the Government (including but not limited to contracts or subcontracts for maintenance, repair, and construction) be placed with small business enterprises

i never heard about that before, but i really think it can be a very good idea to add in the "Small Business Classroom " proposal


Okay, I think I can add that to Cluase 3, so it reads something like this:3. CONDONES the use of subsidies to allow small businesses to compete against larger national or international corporations so long as such subsidizing of small business is considered dutifully for its effects on the national and regional workforce, and used only in just moderation; and CONDONES the distribution of government or public contracts among small businesses, in order to equalize distribution with larger businesses;

Okay, I think I can add that to Cluase 3, so it reads something like this:

thanks

Okay, I think I can add that to Cluase 3, so it reads something like this:


In fact i didn't know the word "condone"

Meaning of CONDONE

excuse, overlook, or make allowances for; be lenient with; "excuse someone's behavior"; "She condoned her husband's occasional infidelities"

from http://www.hyperdictionary.com

Personally, I would prefer Approves, Encourages, Emphasizes, Recommends or Supports here , but that’s ok for me

Love and esterel fully Approves this proposal.

Personally, I would prefer Approves, Encourages, Emphasizes, Recommends or Supports here , but that’s ok for me

Alright, that sounds like a good idea. I like Supports, personally. So what about this:
3. SUPPORTS the use of subsidies to allow small businesses to compete against larger national or international corporations so long as such subsidizing of small business is considered dutifully for its effects on the national and regional workforce, and used only in just moderation; and SUPPORTS the distribution of government or public contracts among small businesses, in order to equalize distribution with larger businesses;

Alright, that sounds like a good idea. I like Supports, personally. So what about this:

thanks

The General Assembly of the United Nations,

ASCERTAINING drive to economic enterprise by individuals [phrasing deleted] as a large part of many individuals’ paths toward happiness,

UNDERSTANDING that greater realization of this drive could be effected, if each individual were to have greater knowledge regarding economic enterprise, specifically small business enterprise, in relation to their surroundings and local economies,

RECALLING [word deleted] many other positive things (besides the possible fulfillment of happiness for some individuals) which may come about when a healthy number of citizens engage in small business,

DETERMINING the drive towards personal achievement universal enough for the United Nations to support and encourage,

1. ENCOURAGES member nations in which there are free market or semi-free market economic systems to have compassion on those entrepreneurs who begin small businesses in the retail, agriculture, manufacturing, technology, etc. industries by assigning those businesses or citizens tax breaks or by helping provide the necessary technical support and infrastructure resources or in any way a member nation and its people may determine a possible route to decrease the difficulties of starting and owning a small business;

2. ENCOURAGES small business owners and potential small business owners to research and acquire intelligent and sensible business practices from reputable sources; and RECOMMENDS positive business practices--such as simplification of support services, and administrative procedures, use of computer technologies and competitive techniques for choosing vendors--be enacted by all small business owners;

3. SUPPORTS the use of subsidies to allow small businesses to compete against larger national or international corporations so long as such subsidizing of small business is considered dutifully for its effects on the national and regional workforce, and used only in just moderation; and SUPPORTS the distribution of government or public contracts among small businesses, in order to equalize distribution with larger businesses;

4. CREATES “The United Nations Small Business Classroom” (“The UNSBC”), which may operate branches in all consenting member nations simultaneously with as large or small of a presence in each nation as desired by each national government ("presence" including the content of “The UNSBC” branch in a member nation, as well as location(s) of “The UNSBC” branch facilities): with staffing to be determined by individual member nations, overseen by UN officials;

5. DESIGNATES “The United Nations Small Business Classroom” as an organization intended, primarily, to educate small business owners, and prospective small business owners on how to begin, run, and operate a small business [phrases deleted];

6. ALLOWS member nations to add curricula--especially regarding local, provincial or national laws, or market research--to “The United Nations Small Business Classroom” so far as additional staffing, if necessary, is provided and salaried by the member nation;

7. URGES member nations to allow citizens say in “The United Nations Small Business Classroom” branch(es) in their member nation, be it through written or spoken feedback, through ombudsmen, local referenda, etc.;

8. DESIGNATES “The United Nations Small Business Classroom” as an organization which may also, should it be within the agreement between “The UNSBC” and the member nation in which a branch resides, produce literature concerning small businesses and national/regional markets, service regional citizens, educate new citizens in the economic workings of the member nation--or educate and facilitate a member nations citizens in any way so long as that service is reasonably related to economics, and approved by UN oversight;

9. DISALLOWS member nations from charging more than a flat, relatively small fee (approved by UN oversight), for access a “The United Nations Small Business Classroom” branch, and DESIGNATES that fee to first go toward the running of “The UNSBC” and the payment of its employees.

Compadria supports this proposal, particularly given our weak economic state, we would welcome any attempt to provide a system of incentives and schools to assist small businesses.

It is good, might we add, to see a proposal which does not attempt to dogmatically propose or impose (as we have seen much of in this forum) a set ideological agenda (i.e. socialist or free-market), but attempts to find a middle-ground. We are impressed by the pragmatic, common-sense approach of PowerHungryChipmunks.

May the blessings of our otters be upon you.

Leonard Otterby
Ambassador for the Republic of Compadria to the U.N.

Maybe you will be also interested by the following:

In the same way you nicely encouraged microcredit by the resolution #117
Maybe it could be interesting to encourage others aspect of microfinance for developing Nations in the UN Small Business Classroom as: tiny deposits, cheap national and international remittances, basic life and property insurance

If you are interested in, here is an an article about that topic
http://www.economist.com/PrinterFriendly.cfm?story_id=5079324

Well, before I go adding anything, I need to trim some things. I'm 569 characters over the limit apparently. I'll see what I can get rid of and get back in a bit.

This, I believe, is within the character limit.

The General Assembly of the United Nations,

ASCERTAINING drive to economic enterprise by individuals as a large part of many individuals’ paths toward happiness,

UNDERSTANDING that greater realization of this drive could be effected, if each individual were to have greater knowledge regarding economic enterprise, specifically small business enterprise, in relation to their surroundings and local economies,

RECALLING many other positive things (besides the possible fulfillment of happiness for some individuals) which may come about when a healthy number of citizens engage in small business,

DETERMINING the drive towards personal achievement universal enough for the United Nations to support and encourage:

1. ENCOURAGES member nations in which there are free market or semi-free market economic systems to have compassion on those entrepreneurs who begin small businesses in the retail, agriculture, manufacturing, technology, etc. industries by assigning those businesses or citizens tax breaks or by helping provide the necessary technical support and infrastructure resources or in any way a member nation and its people may determine a possible route to decrease the difficulties of starting and owning a small business;

2. ENCOURAGES small business owners and potential small business owners to research, acquire and enact intelligent, sensible business practices from reputable sources; [deletion]

3. SUPPORTS the use of subsidies to allow small businesses to compete against larger national or international corporations--considered dutifully for its effects on the national and regional workforce, and used only in just moderation; and SUPPORTS distribution of government or public contracts among small businesses to equalize distribution with larger businesses;

4. CREATES “The United Nations Small Business Classroom” (“The UNSBC”), which may operate branches in consenting member nations with as large or small of a presence in each nation as desired by each national government ("presence" including content of “The UNSBC” branch in a member nation, location(s) of “The UNSBC” branch facilities, etc.): with staffing determined by individual member nations as overseen by UN officials;

5. DESIGNATES “The UNSBC” as an organization intended primarily to educate small business owners and prospective small business owners on how to begin, run, and operate a small business;

6. ALLOWS member nations to add curricula--especially regarding local, provincial or national laws, or market research--to “The UNSBC” so far as additional staffing, if necessary, is provided and salaried by the member nation;

7. URGES member nations to allow citizens say in “The UNSBC” branch(es) in their member nation, be it through written or spoken feedback, through ombudsmen, local referenda, etc.;

8. DESIGNATES “The UNSBC” as an organization which may also, should it be within the agreement between “The UNSBC” and the member nation in which a branch resides, produce literature concerning small businesses and national/regional markets, service regional citizens, educate new citizens in the economic workings of the member nation--or educate and facilitate a member nations citizens in any way so long as that service is reasonably related to economics, and approved by UN oversight.

deletion


EDIT: I figure I should say where the changes came from. There were two main deletions: the second half of clause 2, and the whole of clause 9. I figured they were the most superfluous sections of the text (the section in clause 2 just seemed to be spelling out what I already said, and 9 wasn't really necessary: we're letting nations not have them at all, why should we worry about if they overcharge to get to them?)

Also, I've submitted the proposal (partly to confirm its status within character limit), though I'll not telegram this go around. Perhaps, next Tuesday I'll submit with a proposal campaign.

EDIT AGAIN:(:I've also changed the title, which wouldn't fit (by 1 measely character), to "UN Small Business Education": Free Trade--Mild. Perhaps other tilte possibilities are "UN Small Business Promotion" or somesuch.

I'll take it.

Wow, it has 51 approvals right now :). And, with the Food Distribution proposal and IT Education proposal are coming on up, probably to reach approval, I'll actually have some lists to work the delegates. Next Tuesday is the tentative re-submission date for this sucker (with telegram campaign).

Wow, it has 51 approvals right now :). And, with the Food Distribution proposal and IT Education proposal are coming on up, probably to reach approval, I'll actually have some lists to work the delegates. Next Tuesday is the tentative re-submission date for this sucker (with telegram campaign).


Already 52 without campaign it's great and it's not over yet: it will stay almost one day on 1st proposal page to get more, well done;)

IT Education reached quorum, and Food Distribution got 97 (with 1 or 2 days more, i don't know), whoooooo:)

Wow, it has 51 approvals right now :). And, with the Food Distribution proposal and IT Education proposal are coming on up, probably to reach approval, I'll actually have some lists to work the delegates. Next Tuesday is the tentative re-submission date for this sucker (with telegram campaign).

STATS:

approvals at this time:
IT educattion: 149
Food: 117
Small business: 92

delegates who approved IT ed + Food = 57 (49% of those who approved Food)

delegates who approved IT ed + small Business = 45 (49% of those who approved small business)

delegates who aproved Food + small business = 38 (41% of those who approved small business)

We should have considered having a common TG campaign for the 3 proposals;)

It has been submitted again. This time I anticipate telegramming for it. :)

Link: http://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_proposal1/match=business

It has been submitted again. This time I anticipate telegramming for it. :)

Link: http://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_proposal1/match=business

OOC: Good luck. I'll see what I can do to back you up in the forum debate. That's always fun.:)

Quorum reached, whoooo another free trade proposition at vote next, congrats:)

Quorum reached, whoooo another free trade proposition at vote next, congrats:)
OOC: Good luck. I'll see what I can do to back you up in the forum debate. That's always fun. :)
Thanks and Thanks. I was really happy when it got 100 approvals the first day, but for the next couple days it crept so slowly towards 129 after that.

Anyway, I just hope the forum debate goes well. Goodness knows how turnip-py those can get.