NationStates Jolt Archive

With order you need strict ruling and laws. The Death Penelty is the key to order. All those who disobey the laws will die. Stealing is stealing. We need to enforce the death penelty!

Gruenberg has the death penalty. However, I do not agree with a UN wide law on the death penalty, pro or con.

States, up to a point, have a right to determine their own laws. Or, more to the point, citizens have a right to have their laws decided by their national officials, not distant bureaucrats.

So, while we applaud your firm stance on law and order, we would be unable to support such views if translated into legislative form.

With order you need strict ruling and laws. The Death Penelty is the key to order. All those who disobey the laws will die. Stealing is stealing. We need to enforce the death penelty!

While the Constitutional Republic of Tekania does utilize Capital Punishment, we object to your idea.... Punishment should fit the crime; and capital (that is penalty upon the "head" or "source") punishment, can only be applicable to capital (that is, crimes upon the head or source [the life]) offenses.

One punishment for all offenses, is not an equitable system of law; and therefore, unjust.

The death penalty should never be imposed by one who cannot spell "penalty."

While the Fassist position as of lately has been to take a more passive role in the affairs of the UN, our instructions from the Government of the Queerly Beloved Monarchy are clear: undermine any and all proposals seeking to legitimise the use of the death penalty. This being the case, all the representative of Fass can do is offer a fervent opposition to this.

Gruenberg has the death penalty. However, I do not agree with a UN wide law on the death penalty, pro or con.
We agree with the above statement.

Bob Flibble
UN Representative

Got my vote, although if you haven’t already written the proposal you should make it like the US system. People given the death sentence have to go on a waiting list before they can be executed for a crime, to insure that the courts, lawyers, and police can do all they can to prove the suspect is the guilty person and not the wrong person.

No. It is not for the UN to be dictating national law like this. This is not a matter of international policy, but rather something that we grant independent states the right to legislate on.

I will be voting for.

SNLA']Got my vote, although if you haven’t already written the proposal you should make it like the US system. People given the death sentence have to go on a waiting list before they can be executed for a crime, to insure that the courts, lawyers, and police can do all they can to prove the suspect is the guilty person and not the wrong person.

OOC: It would be nothing like the "US" system, since he's talking about using the Death Penality as "punishment" for all crimes. Whether you're mass-murder on a 200 person killing spree; or you lifted a pack of chewing gum out of a convenience store.

In my Nation you would only loose your hands for stealing chewing gum.
:confused: this proposal is truely evil.

In my Nation you would only loose your hands for stealing chewing gum.
:confused: this proposal is truely evil.

And cutting someone's hands off for stealing isn't?

As has already been said, this should be left to each goverment to decide on their own, not by the UN

Not on yours or our nellies.

Mathieu Vergniaud
Deputy Speaker to the UN

Well, afterall, a forced labor penality is more productive than a death one. For the State and for the imprisoned. After at last twenty-five years working in a coal mine, we think he will never kill another person.
Obviously, crazy people will be put in an appropriate facility, not in a mine.
So, we are taking this postition, for now.