NationStates Jolt Archive

Description: Recognizing the fact that some nations in the world DO have a religion that their government system is based on.

Also noting that UN resolutions both past and present will propose standards that will conflict with those doctrines.

I propose that nations founded on a religious doctrine be allowed to exclude themselves from the addoption of a resolution in the event that part or whole of that resoltion conflicts with that nation's chosen doctrine.

I would like to see at least *some* support for this. It's insanely annoying to have other people's moral decisions effecting my Christian nation.

I don't think it can be done. There are issues with having UN resolutions not effect all nations in the UN. It would require a change in the programming of this game. It is, in fact, strictly illegal for any UN resolution to do this.

Illegal. Not only is it an amendment, you have to repeal all the original resolutions then submit modified versions again; and even if you did that, the altered ones would be illegal because they would be optional.

And anyway, if the entire population of a country is religious, they wont be effected anyway as they would make the choice not to have abortions or marry a member of the same sex, etc.

Ridiculous idea. Laws must apply equally to all, or you're creating an unfair bias. You don't like a resolution, vote against it - that's how it works. There's enough resolutions you don't like - leave the UN. Otherwise I'll propose exemption for all countries with black and white drawings of Brian Wilson in their flag - it makes as much sense...

I didn't realize that it was illegal... It didn't seem to be at the time.

And the arguement about the population is ubsurd. You can have a Christian nation without having anybody in the population being Christian. It's describing the value system of the government.

And FYI, I want to have a say about what goes on in the world, that's why I stay in the UN. However, I find it pointless to have moral issues enforced by the UN. Every nation has it's own value scheme. It's a violation of the country's rights to force another one upon them simply for want of being able to help in the foriegn realm

And the arguement about the population is ubsurd. You can have a Christian nation without having anybody in the population being Christian. It's describing the value system of the government.

Doesn't strike me as very democratic...

A government based on religious ideas is due no special treatment above a government based on any other kind of idea. Capitalists might as well seek exemption from socialist resolutions and blood-thirsty tyrants exemption from human rights resolutions, and vice versa.

Bahgum wishes the Christian nation well, as it wishes all nations well. Though we would like to advise that they should define which of the many kinds of Christianity is prevalent, as competing factions have been historically shown to be quite bothersome. We would suggest that outside nations activities pale in comparison.

Forget ammendments and repeals, exemptions are illegal by the Hackian Laws. No one is allowed (theoretically) to opt out of any resolution and a resolution can't have clauses that exempt people from that resolution or any other one.

No your part of the UN, not matter what your relgion is, what if u relgion says mass kill is right does that make it? What if you relgion says owning slaves are right, it does not make it so.