NationStates Jolt Archive


PROPOSED: "Promotion of Public Nudity"

Xero Point
28-09-2005, 02:48
Please review the following submitted proposal. Upon review, if you support, please vote for approval.

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Promotion of Public Nudity
A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.

Description:

Those of the human race that are proud of their bodily form should be allowed to display their form to the masses without fear of public opinion and criminal charges in cases not including immoral and obscene beavior as dictated by local law.

This proposal advocates the promotion of public nudity allowing for greater freedom of expression, art, and comfort.

In conjunction, this proposal mandates public education on the dangers of skin cancer due to over-exposure of direct sunlight without protection.

Citizens that choose to go into public nude must also be aware the gross obsenity and immoral behavior is not covered by this proposal and may result in civil and criminal charges.
Frisbeeteria
28-09-2005, 03:22
Citizens that choose to go into public nude must also be aware the gross obsenity and immoral behavior is not covered by this proposal and may result in civil and criminal charges.
With this line, it's Moral Decency, not Human Rights as you listed. Next time, try a draft here before submitting.
El Dia Del Padre
28-09-2005, 03:26
Ok, I can see where you are going with this. But what if you put forth a proposal to the UN that helped support your cause. For instance take a look at this position:
In most European countries, the new Star Wars movie was rated R because of its violent content. This movie barely received a pg-13 rating here in the United States. This is because in the United States there is a much higher tolerance of what our children can see in the way of violence and bloody TV. The difference is seen where in Europe, you will see a lot more nudity on television. This is because European parents are taught to teach their children to be knowledgefull about sex and its reprocussions. Here in America, we freak out when a little booby slips out on television. In Europe, like I said earlier, there is no real "woopa" when a little nudity is seen on the telly.
My point is driven home here. Rape, sexual misconduct, and public misdemeaners (related to sex and nudity) are crimes seen in much higher rates in America as compared to Europe. This is because the youth don't freak out about the subject and are experienced in handling it. This can go hand in hand about the topic of drinking at an earlier age in Europe, but that is another discussion. If you would like me to research the topic more and find you the actual statistics, I'm sure I could get my hands on a couple of sources. I am a criminology/criminal justice and psychology double major. Send me a message to my country if you want to do something with this, bring a resolution to the UN maybe?
Kayroh
28-09-2005, 05:15
"Those of the human race that are proud of their bodily form should be allowed to display their form to the masses without fear of public opinion and criminal charges in cases not including immoral and obscene beavior as dictated by local law."

That doesn't help your cause, because everything you do around the public causes a reaction and an opinion. And in most cases (Not including dictatorships/anarchists) the public elects its government. Therefore, if laws are in place to dictate the extint of nudity, they are there because the elected officials legislated such laws. Those same elected officials also have the means to repeal such laws, if constituants voice their opinions.

So your proposal is to dictate a peoples rights to elect a government that represents them?

Also, it seems like you contradicted yourself at the end.
Gun fighters
28-09-2005, 07:07
I will be voting agenst this if it ever becomes a U.N. resolution. :sniper:
Forgottenlands
28-09-2005, 08:02
With this line, it's Moral Decency, not Human Rights as you listed. Next time, try a draft here before submitting.

*confused*

While the wording could be better done to clear up confusion, I am curious as to why this actually makes it a moral decency resolution. The line states that this resolution does not cover those issues and therefore if the nation has laws against such acts, charges may be laid against the people in question. It is a reminder of what is happening rather than a recommendation or requirement of further legislation
Cerebral Liberation Ft
28-09-2005, 17:26
Those of the human race that are proud of their bodily form should be allowed to display their form to the masses without fear of public opinion and criminal charges in cases not including immoral and obscene beavior as dictated by local law.

This proposal advocates the promotion of public nudity allowing for greater freedom of expression, art, and comfort.

In conjunction, this proposal mandates public education on the dangers of skin cancer due to over-exposure of direct sunlight without protection.

Citizens that choose to go into public nude must also be aware the gross obsenity and immoral behavior is not covered by this proposal and may result in civil and criminal charges.

I like the intent of this legislation but it could be (as anything could be) written to sway even those who abhor public nudity.

The Idea is: People are not born with clothes on.
Laws against natural appearance are not always just.
Do we clothe trees? No.
Animals of the Forest? No.
We have a Right to religious freedoms?
Yes?
We have a conglomerated right to being natural?
Yes.

The Idea is that past religious and moral decisions about peoples appearances have infringed on our basic, natural human rights and also have altered what was in fact real, natural, moral decency.
Previous laws have abhorrently taken people away from their common roots and covered the rights of all with the preference of a few.

Understanding that some civilizations have been steeped for so long in this basic lie that they even come to desire that their born be clothed this resolution will unshackle those who wish to be free and regain their basic freedoms and rights to be naked unto the world to God and people.
Kayroh
28-09-2005, 23:46
"The Idea is that past religious and moral decisions about peoples appearances have infringed on our basic, natural human rights and also have altered what was in fact real, natural, moral decency.
Previous laws have abhorrently taken people away from their common roots and covered the rights of all with the preference of a few."

I would refute the idea that the moral reasoning behind nudity law is based on religion. It seems rather illogical to make that jump that the only reason human beings in many cultures have such moral reasoning is because of religion, rather than the instilment of civilized behavior so that a society can function properly, or other such rationale.

Perhaps instead, maybe uncivilized motives from people who lobby for free expression to replace moral decency is the real reason, and those extremists are playing the religion card in politics to win over support from those who aren't adamantly religious. Such people are susceptible to an altered perspective based upon illogical opinionated rhetoric.
Texan Hotrodders
29-09-2005, 13:01
Please review the following submitted proposal. Upon review, if you support, please vote for approval.

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Promotion of Public Nudity
A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.

Description:

Those of the human race that are proud of their bodily form should be allowed to display their form to the masses without fear of public opinion and criminal charges in cases not including immoral and obscene beavior as dictated by local law.

This proposal advocates the promotion of public nudity allowing for greater freedom of expression, art, and comfort.

In conjunction, this proposal mandates public education on the dangers of skin cancer due to over-exposure of direct sunlight without protection.

Citizens that choose to go into public nude must also be aware the gross obsenity and immoral behavior is not covered by this proposal and may result in civil and criminal charges.

Do you want to see a naked Bob Flibble walking around?

I rest my case.

Minister of UN Affairs
Edward Jones
;) Just teasin' ya Flib.
Uzakastan
29-09-2005, 14:08
Hello,

On behalf of the People's Republic of Uzakastan, and a proud UN member, we will oppose this should it come to vote. We do not believe nudity should be flaunted publically, perhaps in privacy or in government approved locations, free from children's view.

Thank you.
Tzorsland
29-09-2005, 14:40
Nudity is already an issue that comes up to nations from time to time. There really is no reason to expose the issue to the United Nations forum. It is best left to the various nations to decide on their own what the appropriate values they should have. Let the scientists debate things on their scientific merrits. (For example there is a group of scientists who think that some sunlight exposure is necessary to prevent a number of internal cancers since the levels of vitamins produced by exposure to the sun are significantly higher than the levels of those vitamins taken in by normal diet.) Let the moralists debate things with other moralists. Let the gurus of good taste debate things with other gurus of good taste.

As to what we "clothe" it really depends on the culture. They do make clothing for pets. Some cultures make clothing for stone statues.

In general I have often found that the people who wear the least are the ones who should be covering up the most.

Finally the debate should really be more than just a question of nudity/clothing. What is nudity? I used to live in an area where during an annual festival many people would walk around in body paint. Often it was very hard to tell that they had only paint on. Many an official would be quite confused as to what the appropriate response should be to body paint and thus the law was rarely enforced fully. On the other hand other people (especialy after a certain infamous incident occured in the national news) would freely walk around fully clothed but also wearing plastic male genatilia over their clothing. Is "artificial nudity" a form of "nudity?" My point is that this issue is not only regional, but far more complex than can be expressed in a single UN resolution, and for these reasons should not be a UN resolution.
Flibbleites
30-09-2005, 04:53
Do you want to see a naked Bob Flibble walking around?

I rest my case.

Minister of UN Affairs
Edward Jones
;) Just teasin' ya Flib.
Personally, I'd be more concerned about seeing a naked Edward Jones. :p

Bob Flibble
UN Representative
Yeldan UN Mission
30-09-2005, 06:42
Do you want to see a naked Bob Flibble walking around?

I rest my case.

Minister of UN Affairs
Edward Jones
;) Just teasin' ya Flib.
Personally, I'd be more concerned about seeing a naked Edward Jones.

Bob Flibble
UN Representative
My government is steadfastly opposed to this and will not support this proposal.
Kirisubo
30-09-2005, 23:18
as the high ambassador i've consulted with my government and got a very brief answer on their views.

Kirisubo will not support this in any way and if it becomes a resolution we will be voting against it.

our case is simple. people can do what they want (within the law) in their own homes. Outside in public nudity is another matter and offensive to most people.

We rest our case.