NationStates Jolt Archive

1 Provideing poor nations with the means to have a full fledged
defence and means and right of response by donating unused portions of an richers nations atomic army or large cash donations

2 giveing the right of any nation the right to respond to a biologic or chemical attack not just the larger nations with more influence

3this will not be mandatory for larger nations and will be a means of cutting the "red tape" for thoses with a giving heart

pleses aprove this bill proposed so nations can give with out harassment

These free nukes are funded by whom?

These free nukes are funded by whom?
Regardless of how it's funded, why would we even want to do this? Arm small, poor, technologically backwards nations with nuclear weaponry? Why?

Regardless of how it's funded, why would we even want to do this? Arm small, poor, technologically backwards nations with nuclear weaponry? Why?

I dunno. But that policy does fit nicely with all the other stupid shit the UN has done.

Minister of UN Affairs
Edward Jones

It's in the interest of fairness, after all. :rolleyes:

a) who funds it b) people will just join the UN to get free nukes then leave c)you can make your own or trade for some if you really want them. I'm quite willing to trade some of my uranium stores for those who need it to build bombs.

I would vote no on this bill

Why on earth would this bill be passed? We should be trying to ban nuclear weapons, due to their terrible effects on life, the enviroment etc., not provide them to every country! I am a small nation and, to be frank, I would not want nuclear weaponry. This proposal is absurd and should be thrown out of the UN.

Why on earth would this bill be passed? We should be trying to ban nuclear weapons, due to their terrible effects on life, the enviroment etc., not provide them to every country! I am a small nation and, to be frank, I would not want nuclear weaponry. This proposal is absurd and should be thrown out of the UN.

Except, nuclear weapons cannot be banned. There's a resolution that specifically says nations may have them.

This proposal in theory is a good idea, but it needs some work to clean it up.

The Arms Merchants of the Evil Conservative Empire of the Palentine has let me, the Ambassador, know that in no uncertain terms they oppose this proposal. They oppose the idea of giving said weaopons away. However in the spirit of capitalism, and the right to bear whatever Arms one can buy, said merchants have stated that they have no trouble selling nukes to whoever has the cash. :p We even have great deals for casino concessions!
Excelsior,
Sen Horatio Sulla

**Remember Palentine Arms the next time you need weapons. From popguns to nukes and all weapons in between.** this message paid for by Palentine Arms.

I dunno. But that policy does fit nicely with all the other stupid shit the UN has done.

Minister of UN Affairs
Edward Jones

I agree! :D

-Sen Horatio Sulla

pleses read SEC 3 this is just away for well funded nations to give with out a bunch of red-tape so it takes months not years for poor nations to get there nukes

pleses read SEC 3 this is just away for well funded nations to give with out a bunch of red-tape so it takes months not years for poor nations to get there nukes

Since I have the material and with a powerful economy, I can make or trade for them. Or just buy them.

I dislike the idea of big nations giving away their hard earned nukes to a small nation which may then just leave and use the nukes. Besides it would be pointless if the big nations decide not to hand over nukes which I think is possibly going to happen.

Great, exponentially increasing the risks of Armageddon on the grounds that it fits in with other (allegedly stupid) resolutions that the U.N. has passed. What wonders shall we here next? Anthrax cultivation kits for pensioners?

Leonard Otterby
Ambassador for the Republic of Compadria to the U.N.

Long live nuclear-weapon free Compadria!

pleses read SEC 3 this is just away for well funded nations to give with out a bunch of red-tape so it takes months not years for poor nations to get there nukes

I did read section 3. There is no red tape involving my nation's arms dealers. They operate on a cash and carry basis.. If you have the cash,then you can carry all the weapons that you can buy. :p The motto of the arms industry in the Palentine is simple "In God we Trust...All others must pay cash!" :D

We're just not that good hearted in the Palentine to just give them away. But we'll keep the notion under consideration. Hell, my government probally would help another small conservative nation develop nukes. I'll have to ask my Emperor about that subject. ;)
Excelsior,
Sen Horatio Sulla
UN Ambassador
The Evil Conservative Empire of the Palentine

Great, exponentially increasing the risks of Armageddon on the grounds that it fits in with other (allegedly stupid) resolutions that the U.N. has passed. What wonders shall we here next? Anthrax cultivation kits for pensioners?

Leonard Otterby
Ambassador for the Republic of Compadria to the U.N.

Long live nuclear-weapon free Compadria!

No, the Evil Conservative Empire of the Palentine opposes biological(ie. germ) warfare. However on the rest of your message, OHHHH YEAH!!!<start the Ted Nugent Music!> You have to admit though this resolution is no stupider than some of the others.
Excelsior,
Sen Horatio Sulla

Isn’t this resolution illegal due to the “opt out” clause in article three?

In any event, we were very much against this proposal as well, until we realized that it makes no mention of turning over delivery systems or even detonation systems. My projectors estimate that if we make the bombs difficult enough to remove from said small nations, the program should, through favorable trade concessions (read dumping), completely pay for itself within two years.

Isn’t this resolution illegal due to the “opt out” clause in article three?

In any event, we were very much against this proposal as well, until we realized that it makes no mention of turning over delivery systems or even detonation systems. My projectors estimate that if we make the bombs difficult enough to remove from said small nations, the program should, through favorable trade concessions (read dumping), completely pay for itself within two years.

Hmmm! The Palentine Board of Trade will have to look into this option. We are already inclined to make exceptions if we are allowed to set up Resort Casinos in the small countries. Thank you Greater Boblandia.
Excelsior,
Sen Horatio Sulla

Except, nuclear weapons cannot be banned. There's a resolution that specifically says nations may have them.

This proposal in theory is a good idea, but it needs some work to clean it up.

Yes, one of our national goals is to make nuclear weapons obsolete, and we feel that should be a goal of the international community while still respecting nations' rights to self defence.

The last thing this world needs is for us to be throwing nuclear weapons to all corners of it. Not to mention the very idea of giving poor unstable countries nukes could lead to the demise of many countries, but the enviornmental damage that could be unleashed by lack of maintenance which they can't afford, and the lack of security with which rogue groups could get hold of them.

We feel such a resolution, if proposed, would be a great threat to the environment, to human decency, and to all people in all countries (UN members and otherwise).

Office of Abraham Brogan
Minister of Foriegn Affairs
Monmouth City, Central-Eastern NJ

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Office of Ismael Aakster
Minister of Interior Security and National Defence
Monmouth City, Central-Eastern NJ