NationStates Jolt Archive


"Superior Race" parties ban proposal

Aklekia
08-09-2005, 20:53
I propose that we ban all political parties that are based on racial superiority. ex. Nazi Party. This will help stabalize the world and lower hate crimes. These parties only lead to war, mass emigratrion, and genocide. This will also bring people closer together as they will realize there are no "Superior" races and that we are all equal.

I hope that all delegates will realize the importance of this proposal and vote yes to it.
Forgottenlands
08-09-2005, 20:58
Censorship does nothing except drive the hate underground. If you keep those that hate visible, you have something to teach your children about - they will wonder why these people are like this, and you can explain what they hate and why they hate it. You don't make examples of them or drive them underground. You use them as antagonists.

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Regardless, I do believe you are in violation of stuff like Freedom of Conscious and Freedom of Choice - which allow them to exist as long as they don't start public rallies that ask for the death of that which they hate. So, um, NO.
Texan Hotrodders
08-09-2005, 23:10
Censorship does nothing except drive the hate underground. If you keep those that hate visible, you have something to teach your children about - they will wonder why these people are like this, and you can explain what they hate and why they hate it. You don't make examples of them or drive them underground. You use them as antagonists.

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Regardless, I do believe you are in violation of stuff like Freedom of Conscious and Freedom of Choice - which allow them to exist as long as they don't start public rallies that ask for the death of that which they hate. So, um, NO.

Our office agrees with the basic points made by the Forgottenlord.

Deputy Minister of UN Affairs
Thomas Smith
Commustan
08-09-2005, 23:35
While I vehemently dislike Superior Race ideologies, I believe they should have freeom of expression.
Frisbeeteria
08-09-2005, 23:45
From "Rules for UN Proposals"Ideological Bans

Okay, so you hate capitalism. That's nice, but you can't ban it. Just like you can't ban communism, socialism, democracy, dictatorships, conservatives, liberals, christians, atheist, or any other political, religous, or economic ideology. While it should go without saying, this is up to the Game Moderator's descretion. You may consider the banning of slavery an oppression of your "economic ideology", we do not. No.
Jurn
09-09-2005, 05:24
while in no way affiliated with a hate group, i disagree with this proposal, remvoving individuals freedoms.
The Cat-Tribe
09-09-2005, 20:45
I agree with the persuasive wisdom of a Oliver Wendell Holmes, a Supreme Court Justice many decades ago in his nation:

Persecution for the expression of opinions seems to me perfectly logical. If you have no doubt of your premises or your power and want a certain result with all your heart you naturally express your wishes in law and sweep away all opposition. To allow opposition by speech seems to indicate that you think the speech impotent, as when a man says that he has squared the circle, or that you do not care whole heartedly for the result, or that you doubt either your power or your premises. But when men have realized that time has upset many fighting faiths, they may come to believe even more than they believe the very foundations of their own conduct that the ultimate good desired is better reached by free trade in ideas-that the best test of truth is the power of the thought to get itself accepted in the competition of the market, and that truth is the only ground upon which their wishes safely can be carried out. That at any rate is the theory of our Constitution. It is an experiment, as all life is an experiment. Every year if not every day we have to wager our salvation upon some prophecy based upon imperfect knowledge. While that experiment is part of our system I think that we should be eternally vigilant against attempts to check the expression of opinions that we loathe and believe to be fraught with death, unless they so imminently threaten immediate interference with the lawful and pressing purposes of the law that an immediate check is required to save the country.

Although Mr. Holmes refers to his own nation's Constitution, the same principal applies to the UN and what should be our commitment to a free exchange of ideas among nations. Any nation that is individually opposed to certail ideals such as racist politics should rely on the market place of ideas and vigilant protection of freedom for all -- not upon oppression of those with whom one disagree.

The principals of democracy, free expression, freedom of assembly, and freedom of conscience are strengths not weaknesses. Oppression of ideas is neither effective nor desirable.

I hate fascism and racist politics. But I will defend to the death the right of others for such ideas to exist.