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Honourable United Nations member,

The nation of Bellaben has submitted a proposal that it feels can aid all member nations in the realm of Global security: International Criminal Court.

The last time a similar proposal was submitted, we did not spend the time to seek to come to the United Nations Delegates on this forum first, and our proposal suffered - barely achieving over a third of the required endorsements.

We now seek the support of 130 United Nations Delegates.

Thank you, on behalf of Bellaben and its people, for your time.

Text please

Hmm....this looks oddly similar to a TG I got recently:

Honorable United Nations Delegate,

The Grand Duchy of Luxumbra hath submitted a proposal that it feels can aid all member nations both in the realm of Global Disarmament as well as exploration.

The last time a similar proposal was submitted, the Grand Duchy did not spend the time to seek to come to the United Nations Delegates on this forum first, and our proposal suffered - barely achieving over a third of the required endorsements.

The Grand Duchy of Luxumbra seeks the support of 130 United Nations Delegates beyond its own, the Illuminating Darkness of Tsel. If you as a United Nations Delegate do not feel this proposal meets with their approval, Luxumbra humbly requests any suggestions for improvements to its proposal.

For those who wish to read it here, the text of the International Space Agency Proposal is listed below. Thank you, on behalf of the Grand Duchy of Luxumbra and its people, for your time.

Don't copy others, it just makes you look even worse than you started out.

Hmm....this looks oddly similar to a TG I got recently:



Don't copy others, it just makes you look even worse than you started out.
Hahahahaha, I knew that part about "not spend the time to seek to come to the United Nations Delegates on this forum first" sounded familiar. Here's the text of the proposal:
International Criminal Court

A resolution to improve world security by boosting police and military budgets.


Category: International Security


Strength: Strong


Proposed by: Bellaben

Description: CONSCIOUS that all peoples are united by common bonds, their cultures pieced together in a shared heritage, and concerned that this delicate mosaic may be shattered at any time,

MINDFUL that during this century millions of children, women and men have been victims of unimaginable atrocities that deeply shock the conscience of humanity,

RECOGNISING that such grave crimes threaten the peace, security and well-being of the world,

AFFIRMING that the most serious crimes of concern to the international community as a whole must not go unpunished and that their effective prosecution must be ensured by taking measures at the national level and by enhancing international cooperation,

DETERMINED to put an end to impunity for the perpetrators of these crimes and thus to contribute to the prevention of such crimes,

RECALLING that it is the duty of every State to exercise its criminal jurisdiction over those responsible for international crimes,

REAFFIRMING the Purposes and Principles of the Charter of the United Nations, and in particular that all States shall refrain from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any State, or in any other manner inconsistent with the Purposes of the United Nations,

EMPHASIZING in this connection that nothing in this Statute shall be taken as authorizing any State Party to intervene in an armed conflict or in the internal affairs of any State,

DETERMINED to these ends and for the sake of present and future generations, to establish an independent permanent International Criminal Court in relationship with the United Nations system, with jurisdiction over the most serious crimes of concern to the international community as a whole,

EMPHASIZING that the International Criminal Court established under this Statute shall be complementary to national criminal jurisdictions,

RESOLVED to guarantee lasting respect for and the enforcement of international justice,

An International Criminal Court ("the Court") is hereby established. It shall be a permanent institution and shall have the power to exercise its jurisdiction over persons for the most serious crimes of international concern, as referred to in this Statute, and shall be complementary to national criminal jurisdictions. The jurisdiction and functioning of the Court shall be governed by the provisions of this Statute.

The seat of the Court shall be established at The Capital City of Bellaben ("the host State").
The Court shall enter into a headquarters agreement with the host State, to be approved by Assembly of States Parties and thereafter concluded by the President of the Court on its behalf.
The Court may sit elsewhere, whenever it considers it desirable, as provided in this Statute.

The Court shall have international legal personality. It shall also have such legal capacity as may be necessary for the exercise of its functions and the fulfilment of its purposes.

The Court may exercise its functions and powers, as provided in this Statute, on the territory of any State Party and, by special agreement, on the territory of any other State.

The jurisdiction of the Court shall be limited to the most serious crimes of concern to the international community as a whole. The Court has jurisdiction in accordance with this Statute with respect to the following crimes:
(a) The crime of genocide;
(b) Crimes against humanity;
(c) War crimes;
(d) The crime of aggression.

Your proposal, this time around, will not suffer because you failed to come to us first. This time, it will suffer because you failed to come to us before you even posted. This proposal, as it currently stands, is, well, illegal.

International Criminal Court

A resolution to improve world security by boosting police and military budgets.


Category: International Security


Strength: Strong


Proposed by: Bellaben

Description: CONSCIOUS that all peoples are united by common bonds, their cultures pieced together in a shared heritage, and concerned that this delicate mosaic may be shattered at any time,

MINDFUL that during this century millions of children, women and men have been victims of unimaginable atrocities that deeply shock the conscience of humanity,

Considering the sheer size of the NationStates world (which is well into the trillions), millions seems a bit small for the timeframe stated.

RECOGNISING that such grave crimes threaten the peace, security and well-being of the world,

Not sure if I agree with security

AFFIRMING that the most serious crimes of concern to the international community as a whole must not go unpunished and that their effective prosecution must be ensured by taking measures at the national level and by enhancing international cooperation,

DETERMINED to put an end to impunity for the perpetrators of these crimes and thus to contribute to the prevention of such crimes,

Don't give me "deterrence" as your reasoning

RECALLING that it is the duty of every State to exercise its criminal jurisdiction over those responsible for international crimes,

I've never heard of that duty

REAFFIRMING the Purposes and Principles of the Charter of the United Nations, and in particular that all States shall refrain from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any State, or in any other manner inconsistent with the Purposes of the United Nations,

Does not exist. RL != NS (RL infraction, illegal)

EMPHASIZING in this connection that nothing in this Statute shall be taken as authorizing any State Party to intervene in an armed conflict or in the internal affairs of any State,

DETERMINED to these ends and for the sake of present and future generations, to establish an independent permanent International Criminal Court in relationship with the United Nations system, with jurisdiction over the most serious crimes of concern to the international community as a whole,

EMPHASIZING that the International Criminal Court established under this Statute shall be complementary to national criminal jurisdictions,

RESOLVED to guarantee lasting respect for and the enforcement of international justice,

An International Criminal Court ("the Court") is hereby established.

Up to here, good

It shall be a permanent institution

That MAY be a metagaming infraction (unrepealable resolution)

and shall have the power to exercise its jurisdiction over persons for the most serious crimes of international concern, as referred to in this Statute, and shall be complementary to national criminal jurisdictions. The jurisdiction and functioning of the Court shall be governed by the provisions of this Statute.

The seat of the Court shall be established at The Capital City of Bellaben ("the host State").

Nope. That would be a metagaming infraction on committees and probably a branding infraction. Why not just connect it to the United Nations building which sits on "International" land

The Court shall enter into a headquarters agreement with the host State, to be approved by Assembly of States Parties and thereafter concluded by the President of the Court on its behalf.
The Court may sit elsewhere, whenever it considers it desirable, as provided in this Statute.

The Court shall have international legal personality. It shall also have such legal capacity as may be necessary for the exercise of its functions and the fulfilment of its purposes.

WTF? International legalities extend beyond the most extreme crimes you've listed below. Check out the 120 resolutions to see what I mean

The Court may exercise its functions and powers, as provided in this Statute, on the territory of any State Party and, by special agreement, on the territory of any other State.

That sounds a lot like an optionality clause

The jurisdiction of the Court shall be limited to the most serious crimes of concern to the international community as a whole. The Court has jurisdiction in accordance with this Statute with respect to the following crimes:
(a) The crime of genocide;

TPP

(b) Crimes against humanity;

I believe also TPP

(c) War crimes;

Fine

(d) The crime of aggression.

Does not exist. War is perfectly legal and it is more than legal to instigate a war

TPP is set up by an alternate resolution so the points where I am saying that it is under TPP's jurisdiction - that would be both contradiction and duplication infractions.

So.....5 illegal points? Or is it 6?