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Description: UN Resolution #5: DVD region removal (Category: Free Trade; Strength: Mild) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: This resolution is in dire need of being repealed for its refusal to expand on the rights of certain regions DVDs. This resolution needs to be re-written to include the rights of each region/country when it comes to all their public media, including DVDs. Not to mention the numerous mis-spellings that plague our resolutions page 1.

Thus, "DVD region removal" is repealed.

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Fellow nations, isnt it time that we got rid of this ridiculous and under-developed resolution?

There might come a time when someone comes up with a proposal that properly explains why this resolution should be repealed in a way that informs and persuades the audience and perhaps even me. This is not that time.

I would like to point out to the honorable representative from Jey that I feel that your argument is lacking.
1. What specific rights has the resoluton "refused" to expand upon? "The rights of each region/country when it comes to all their public media" is incredibly vague. One cannot make an accusation without proof.
2. Despite the misspelling you point out, the resolution is concise enough for you to read and understand, right? Otherwise you couldn't possibly be complaining about issues that said resolution brings up.
I give the floor to anyone else with a statement.

Yours, Representative Sagan
Fresalian Abassador to the UN

I'm going to keep my feelings on this short and simple.
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Bob Flibble
UN Representative

The repeal of the prior legislation may be made clearly necessary or obviated if we focused on what is to come in the future. To wit: an as-yet hypothetical Resolution to Promote Worldwide Media Formats.

These are my thoughts of what the future resolution should take into consideration:

1. Media formats worldwide may advance over time. New standards that are developed should not be held back by legislation. For instance, a hypothetical 'DVD2' standard should not be banned because of 'lowest common denominator' thinking or investment in prior equipment or technologies.

2. Public standard media formats are voluntarily adhered to by the public, corporations and consortia in product design and consumers in purchasing choice. They are an 'opt-in/opt-out' market choice. Market forces can be encouraged, but not controlled, by the UN.

3. The United Nations can encourage open worldwide standards as a public welfare issue on the basis of cultural exchange and worldwide free enterprise. This should never be stated as a fundamental inherent 'right,' though the general principle of accessability to information may be construed as such.

4. There are private media formats proposed and in use by corporations, the public, across consortia, and even governments (such as secure military or other governmental media and data formats). At no time should any legislation put to risk such private needs for different data formats or threaten to mandate them to be made publically accessible.

5. Localized or proprietary media formats might be desired for cultural or economic reasons. The UN should not bar, for instance, the reverence of "Betamax videos" or "8-track cassettes" in a nation religiously devoted to nostalgia.

6. To make this an enforceable resolution, ensure production or sale of worldwide-formatted media products (recorders, players, transmission, distribution or storage systems) not be barred by any formal legislation, but allow for reasonable licensing and controls, and permit only certain types or levels of trade barriers or tarriffs in UN member nations.

7. Have specific and acceptable repercussions of failure to comply, such as an economic sanction against exports from the disfavored nation. The original resolution does not say what happens if it is violated. While ludicrously suggested, are we to send in peacekeepers to stop trade wars of proprietary media types? What happens if the original resolution is ignored? As written, nothing.

8. Timing. The original resolution was worded without any consideration of the time-to-adopt (TTA) to a new technology (the natural 'adoption curve'). Allow member nations to develop the capacity for media adoption over time. Permit a reasonable time-to-comply (TTC) with the resolution whether by local production and sale or by import if necessary (when measures to comply 'must' be begun or completed by).

9. Avoid mandating lesser-developed nations unilaterally accept the latest media standards forcibly shoved down their throats by the most progressive nations. This could be harmful to locally-developed technologies and industries, and ruinous to fragile economies. Not everyone lives in a 'disposable' society. What are the nations which had invested time and energy in localized media to do with their products and stored information? Throw them out? Convert them at their own expense?

While worldwide media standards sound reasonable, sound reason should be exercised in making sweeping, short, poorly-worded, yet binding resolutions for the world.

Since the Warzone of the Defenders seeks to protect regions from war, and this can be seen as a trade war issue, we would support the repeal of the original legislation, since it is, as written, unenforceable and therefore meaningless.

We would support a well-constructed UN resolution which would take into consideration the above points.

There might come a time when someone comes up with a proposal that properly explains why this resolution should be repealed in a way that informs and persuades the audience and perhaps even me. This is not that time.


The Republic of New Hamilton needs to know why we should keep such a misspelled and such be impotent resolution.



Is your argument "If it's broke...let's not fix it until we feel like it"?

After private consultation with the government of Pojonia, the government of Listeneisse has been assured the considerations specified above for a proposed "Resolution to Promote Worldwide Media Formats" make compelling arguments to clarify the deficiencies in the present resolution, and a strong case for a future resolution.

After private consultation with the government of Pojonia, the government of Listeneisse has been assured the considerations specified above for a proposed "Resolution to Promote Worldwide Media Formats" make compelling arguments to clarify the deficiencies in the present resolution, and a strong case for a future resolution.

The Government of Jey regretfully informs the nations following my proposal that it will most likely not reach quorum. There is approximately 2 hours left on my proposal and it is 22 endorstments short. The Allied States of Jey will submit this a second time and would like to inform you all here that it would be in favor of a "Promote Worldwide Media Formats" resolution. We would be happy in helping the author(s) of this proposal in any way necessary.

i gotta agree to this in everyway possible :D

DVDs gotta be avilable in every country in the same format and not just one for each country its bullshit when you order a DVD and it doesn't run because your player isn't made to run that DVD :(

make a move to see that all DVD players are the best :D

If you mention that a replacement resolution is sitting on the drafting table, I'm certain many more will be willing to consider supporting this repeal. You will gain my support next time as I didn't know about a replacement sitting around and I was in a period of low activity on my part so I couldn't do the proper research

I've approved it again and I really don't care if there is or is not a replacement.

"The removal of regions in DVD's that prevent a user from one region watching the DVD's form another. One region is all wek need."

So... the beef is over two minor typos? A transposed letter and a slip of the finger?

I count at least 3 - and it's poorly structured, doesn't fully deal with a "how", just puts forth a what and why and is too specific - and that's just from the people who support the intent.

The Dominion of Ficticious Proportions, in light of seeing a credible replacement, will gladly support the repeal with intent to support the replacement.

It is an abysmal resolution in terms of wording and structure.

There are scores of absymal resolutions in terms of wording and structure on the UN's book. At present, we do not consider a repeal of this to be of high priority.

NOTE TO ALL WHO ARE FOLLOWING THIS PROPOSAL:

Our proposal was recently deleted for reasons of "branding". In this case, that is if you were wondering, providing our nation's name in the body of the proposal. We are not in any way trying to make my nation seem like a victim to the NationStates Moderators here as it had received 112 endorsements with 2 days left when it was deleted, but we felt that we must bring this occurance to your attention. It was our fault for not completely complying with the proposal rules and therefore we are not angry about this. Nevertheless, we hope to gain the same support as we were in the process of receiving in our last proposal. The next and hopefully final draft of this proposal will be submitted in the next two days.

Also, we will take the suggestion of some in this topic and provide for you the link for the draft of the replacement resolution. Any more commentary would be appreciated.

Thanks for supporting this proposal,
Jey
Regional Delegate of the 'United Nations' Region

Question: is it illegal to have 2 repeals in the proposal list at the same time (because there is another proposal to repeal this resolution as of right now) and i was considering submitting MY repeal tomorrow.

FINAL DRAFT PLEASE INFORM ME OF ANY RULES THAT ARE BROKEN...


REPEAL:
UNITED NATIONS RESOLUTION #5
DVD region removal
A resolution to reduce barriers to free trade and commerce.

Category: Free Trade
Strength: Mild
Proposed by: Mercia
Description: The removal of regions in DVD's that prevent a user from one region watching the DVD's form another. One region is all wek need.
Votes For: 4,266
Votes Against: 806
Implemented: Fri Jan 17 2003

Argument: While we are in favor of allowing free trade of all media types between regions, this “resolution” is completely unenforceable and, thus, meaningless. Without even mentioning the obvious misspellings in this past resolution, it has numerous flaws. Vital points that should have been covered in this resolution that were left unexpanded to include:

-The rights and privileges of nations and regions when it comes to all other media types, including: CDs, CD-Rs, CD-RWs, VHSs, Cassettes, Other Record Types, Nearly all computerized media such as: .jpg files, .wmv, .mpg, .avi, etc.

-The inevitability that media types will advance over time. This resolution only covers one type of media which is only effective during the time in which DVDs are used as standardized media.

-How this resolution would have been enforced, whether by a committee of the U.N., the governments of the nations of the U.N., or from other means.

In light of this resolution’s ineffectiveness and failure to expand further its explanation and purpose, be it resolved that,

Resolution #5, “DVD region removal” is repealed.

Be it further resolved that,
A replacement resolution containing the rights and privileges of regions and nations when it comes to their present and future media types is submitted.

Co-authored by Listeneisse

Argument: While the Allied States of Jey is in favor of allowing free trade of all media types between regions


Is that considered part of the body or no?

BlueTiger']Is that considered part of the body or no?

Thank you. *AMMENDED*

Question: is it illegal to have 2 repeals in the proposal list at the same time (because there is another proposal to repeal this resolution as of right now) and i was considering submitting MY repeal tomorrow.
No, there is no rule against having multiple repeal attempts on the same resolution in the queue at the same time (assuming that they're by different nations), believe me I've had as many as four attempts to repeal the resolution I wrote in the queue at one time.

Bob Flibble
UN Representative

personally i would favor a simple and short new resolution extanding after the repeal the "one region" to most media as Blue-ray, HD DVD, UMD (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Media_Disc ) SACD http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SACD ) DualDisc (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DualDisc )and new one's to come, and digital music and video stores as itunes, raphsody .....

VHSs, Cassettes??? "Betamax videos" or "8-track cassettes"???
welcome in the XXI century

Love and esterel will strongly oppose any repeal or resolution, focusing on fully obsolete and outdated media

may we legislate on our present and future, please

maybe, what we need is compatibility of commercial media digital formats with most digital music or video portable players

maybe we need also to encourages also "digital projection movie theater" in order to improve quality and help this industry to evolve

and also to promote HDTV and digital radio, while establishing world standards

sorry for my 4 posts but i was really upset :headbang:

maybe, what we need is compatibility of commercial media digital formats with most digital music or video portable players

maybe we need also to encourages also "digital projection movie theater" in order to improve quality and help this industry to evolve

and also to promote HDTV and digital radio, while establishing world standards

sorry for my 4 posts but i was really upset :headbang:

I would like to make a recommendation on this as a comment for further arguments, not as a reason to reject. While I think "obsolete" technologies should be included (for various and fairly obvious reasons), I agree that some comment must be made regarding technologies to come.

i agree with you but honestly
"VHSs, Cassettes" will be in the text of our resolution, and we will not be able to delete it
why not cylinder phonograph?

this 100% shame
we say NO, to this nonsense

i agree with you but honestly
"VHSs, Cassettes" will be in the text of our resolution, and we will not be able to delete it
this 100% shame
we say NO, to this nonsense

The amazing thing that we forget about, sitting in industrialized society, is that other formats that we consider "obsolete" are standard in less-industrialized societies. To give you an example, Walkmans had practically completely replaced cassette players by 1997/98 in North America. However, in the Christmas of 2000, my family took a trip to Australia to visit family down there. They gave me a cassette player for my birthday - and thought it was a great gift. I, of course, was thinking "why are they giving me this garbage?", but at the time, portable CD players just hadn't had the same integration in Australia as they had had in North America. Remember, Australia is a very well industrialized country. Imagine India, which probably still has lots of cassettes. I know a place that rents out only VHS tapes in Canada. The front desk of my residence has a large collection of movies, but only 10% of them (at best) are DVDs. It was not that long ago I was watching Terminator 2 on an even older technology. We can't just dismiss old technologies because we think they are absolete. Heck, C++ was standardized in 1998, well after JAVA was released.

Indeed, most Ecopoeians do not even have access to television, let alone these fancy 'DVD' things of which we are hearing so much about.

We support repeal but have no wish to see a replacement. The UN ought to be focussing on matters of import, not frivolity like this*.

Mathieu Vergniaud
Deputy Speaker to the UN

*Except where Bahgum's involved. We make an exception for them.

today in North America, Europe, Australia, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Malaisya, thailand, and (east) china .......walkman and portable CD player are less common
you can find DVD player in nepal or bangladesh

in my country you can get a mp3 flash player for less than 20$ (even if they are not manufactured in my countries)

So of course many poeple use cassetes and VHS, we son't want to have a judgment about it of course, sorry if it seems we had, but these support have entered the last part of their life, the text of this repeal looks back to the past instead of looking towards our future

we need to encourages High-tech, it's a great development opportunities for developping nations.

=> this is a very bad advertisement for the UN

he UN ought to be focussing on matters of import, not frivolity like this*.

we really don't think that economic development is frivolity

may i invite you to read more often this kind of articles:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4218320.stm

we need to encourages High-tech, it's a great development opportunities for developping nations.

Ahem... Reformentian media has been stored on integrated crystalline molecular matrices for some time now. We do not consider DVDs to be "high tech". Quite the contrary.

(OOC: To put it more bluntly, welcome to NS, where nobody said it was the XXI century or that someone's pet peeves with the way their favorite real world television series or movie was distributed by equally real world entertainment industry executives applied.)

Ahem... Reformentian media has been stored on integrated crystalline molecular matrices for some time now. We do not consider DVDs to be "high tech". Quite the contrary.



We fully agree with you
if you agre with, our nation will be fully interested studying, importing and buying your technologies (integrated crystalline molecular matrices) who seem great.

today in North America, Europe, Australia, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Malaisya, thailand, and (east) china .......walkman and portable CD player are less common
you can find DVD player in nepal or bangladesh

in my country you can get a mp3 flash player for less than 20$ (even if they are not manufactured in my countries)

So of course many poeple use cassetes and VHS, we son't want to have a judgment about it of course, sorry if it seems we had, but these support have entered the last part of their life, the text of this repeal looks back to the past instead of looking towards our future

we need to encourages High-tech, it's a great development opportunities for developping nations.

=> this is a very bad advertisement for the UN

I do not deny that future types of media need to be considered (and I said that two posts ago). I take issue with your call to vote against the repeal while it includes the older media formats. We are talking about a general rules regarding media formats, whether they be ending their life, or just starting, or hardly even fathomable. As such, past and future technologies should be listed, as both will be considered (at a general, not a specific) level by any replacement.

OOC: Let me be blunt. Neither I nor Ecopoeia give a flying fuck about DVD regions. We're basically discussing a tool for entertainment. What next? A resolution encouraging the development of flat screen televisions? iPods? What concern is this for the UN?

If this kind of nonsense gets passed I'm going to start lobbying for UN resolutions promoting theatre, live art and jousting.

I do not deny that future types of media need to be considered (and I said that two posts ago). I take issue with your call to vote against the repeal while it includes the older media formats. We are talking about a general rules regarding media formats, whether they be ending their life, or just starting, or hardly even fathomable. As such, past and future technologies should be listed, as both will be considered (at a general, not a specific) level by any replacement.

the problem of this repeal is there are only obsolete references
nausea for me, sorry

if this text happen to be voted, The Most Serene Republic of Love and esterel will, in a purely symbolic move, resign from the UN for a period of 7 days, before joining again.

We agree wholeheartedly with our distinguished colleagues who consider this matter trivial and unworthy of the time and attention of the NSUN. If this is important enough for us to spend our time on, then the world of NS is a far better place than we had realized.

However.... The onus of triviality, we believe, lies not on the proposer of this repeal, but on the author of the original resolution and those who voted for the thing. The resolution does not deserve to be left cluttering up the body of NSUN resolutions. We support the repeal.

Hurlbot Barfanger
Ambassador to the United Nations

We support the repeal.

Hurlbot Barfanger
Ambassador to the United Nations

we will support any repeal, but not with this humiliating text

ok we wrote a new repeal text

we hope some nations will help us to improve it, and some nation will submit it, if not we will do it ourselves:

Jey, i will be very happy you use this draft instead, then i will also help you in your TG campaign

but we must also write first, the new resolution
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Repeal "DVD region removal"

[[A replacement proposition of "DVD region removal" is already written on the UN Forum, link, and will be submitted right after the repeal]]

The United Nations,

WHEREAS the resolution "DVD region removal”:
- is only about DVD
- is poorly written

WHEREAS other media supports exists or will arrives soon on the market and should be also free of a "regional system":
- Blue-ray, HD DVD, UMD, SACD, DualDisc and any previous or new one to come

WHEREAS music or videos digital formats are already available and DRMs should be regulated, in order to assure compatibility for customers with most digital music or video portable players

REPEAL the UN Resolution #5, “DVD region removal”
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ps: DRMs: Digital rights management
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_rights_management

here is a draft of "Promotion of Worldwide Media Formats"
ok it's just a fast draft i have written, need to improve it a lot:
i wrote only the operatives clauses yet, and they are far from perfect
Jey, Listeneisse, feel free to use it for your future proposition
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"Promotion of Worldwide Media Formats"

The United Nations,

PREVENT (or BAN) any "regional system" for Media support (as Blue-ray, HD DVD, UMD, SACD, DualDisc and any previous or new one to come) and any "regional system" for commercial music and videos digital formats

URGES STRONGLY all the different consortiums who develop each on their side a similar generation of new media support or DRMs system to have closed talk with each others, in order they find an agreement and they present a universal format support or DRM system

URGES STRONGLY all nations to regulate DRMs, in order to assure compatibility for customers with most digital music or video portable players

MANDATES developed nation who propose a media support or DRM system standard, to regulate the cost of its patent licensing in order to be financially available to developing nations - developing nations will be free to develop their own system if they feel adopting worldwide system can put their economy at risk

URGES STRONGLY all Nations to work on and to adopt universal HDTV and digital radio standards
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If this kind of nonsense gets passed I'm going to start lobbying for UN resolutions promoting theatre, live art and jousting.
Cultural exchange might be nice for world peace.

A joust is a wondrously good way to compete athletically (it's still a very active sport in Listeneisse).

A joust between champions might even resolve international issues instead of a war.

Let us know when you draft up the resolution. We'd be quite keen to see it go through.

The issues of common data standards for world communication and international commerce should not be mandated -- for this might stifle global competition.

At the same time, nations should be encouraged to adopt common standards for intercommunication, for free trade purposes.

By banning regional variations, it opens up the smallest markets to be flooded by the equipment of large economic giants. Nascent industries can be overrun in developing nations by entrenched manufacturers.

In addition, regional developments which might provide non-standard improvements over common formats are utterly squelched by a ban. The resolution is a mandate to use the lowest common denominator.

We support a repeal of the ban of regional DVD formats so that it does not stand in the way of technological advancement.

Whatever draft replaces it needs to encourage standardization for global free trade, but not at the expense or ruination fragile markets and new industries.

OOC: Let me be blunt. Neither I nor Ecopoeia give a flying fuck about DVD regions. We're basically discussing a tool for entertainment. What next? A resolution encouraging the development of flat screen televisions? iPods? What concern is this for the UN?

If this kind of nonsense gets passed I'm going to start lobbying for UN resolutions promoting theatre, live art and jousting.

we think economic develpment is important, and entertainment is becoming a major industry sector.
we really understand that you don't think it should be a UN concern, but we don't fully understand your lack of interest about economy and customers

Why can't we just repeal the resolution, and I don't care what the wording of the repeal is, I'll support any and all efforts to get rid of that DVD embaressment to the UN, and not replace it. Lets just get rid of it and leave it at that.

I really can't see why the UN should be involved in this. People don't have a human right to watch movies, and its not a necessity of life. Nations can sort out regions between themselves.

The main point of the old resolution was to NOT restrict the free trade of DVDs. If any of you have payed attention to my TG campaign, i am in favor of the free trade of DVDs and ALL OTHER MEDIA. It really doesnt matter how "technologically advanced" you are in my new resolution. The old resolution is completely unenforcable and frankly an embarrassment to the U.N. It needs to be repealed, whether you agree with my new resolution or not, surely you can agree with the old resolution's repeal.

The issues of common data standards for world communication and international commerce should not be mandated -- for this might stifle global competition.

Actually, more than anything, it stiffles global sharing

At the same time, nations should be encouraged to adopt common standards for intercommunication, for free trade purposes.

By banning regional variations, it opens up the smallest markets to be flooded by the equipment of large economic giants. Nascent industries can be overrun in developing nations by entrenched manufacturers.

Format standards are actually coding of data, not software or hardware concerns. Any company still has the ability to enter with their software and any company still has the ability to produce their own machines that will read this data coding correctly. You need to have a standard on data coding to even be able to do anything to begin with. In the real world, there are two standards of coding for DVDs - and they are the region codes we speak of.

I note that similar programs have been put in place for many other things, one of the bigger ones (in terms of size rather than significance) would have to be coding languages. For example, C++ was standardized in 1998. There are dozens of companies that still build compilers for the language (notables of course include Microsoft, Borland, G++ and other open source projects, etc).

In addition, regional developments which might provide non-standard improvements over common formats are utterly squelched by a ban. The resolution is a mandate to use the lowest common denominator.

Somewhat.... This is possible, but I'm not certain

We support a repeal of the ban of regional DVD formats so that it does not stand in the way of technological advancement.

Whatever draft replaces it needs to encourage standardization for global free trade, but not at the expense or ruination fragile markets and new industries.

we think economic develpment is important, and entertainment is becoming a major industry sector.
we really understand that you don't think it should be a UN concern, but we don't fully understand your lack of interest about economy and customers
You do realize that as the resolution targeted by this repeal is catagorized as "Free Trade" repealing it will actually hurt your economy.

Bob Flibble
UN Representative

Why can't we just repeal the resolution, and I don't care what the wording of the repeal is, I'll support any and all efforts to get rid of that DVD embaressment to the UN, and not replace it. Lets just get rid of it and leave it at that.

I really can't see why the UN should be involved in this. People don't have a human right to watch movies, and its not a necessity of life. Nations can sort out regions between themselves.
Exactly.

Well, I can't quite follow entirely on what the discussion is. But here's how I see a repeal.

If you find anything wrong with a resolution, list that down in a repeal proposal and propose it. If others agree, it gets passed.

In this proposal finding faults with DVD is enough IMO. But a mention of other relavant points would not hurt, in fact it'll be better for your cause, whether or not you mean it.
Think of the many times you went for an interview or had a discussion, where you would tell a hundred lies and promises that you never intend to keep ;)

To all who argue that my proposal used outdated and obsolete technologies:

All i am trying to do is get a common ground with the delegates in the terms of standardized media. I realize that many nations have moved on from VHSs and Cassetes. Not all nations have moved onto "Blue-ray, HD DVD, UMD, SACD, and DualDiscs". I believe all are familiar with VHSs and Cassetes seeing that they were both used at one point as standarzied audio and visual media. I personally never heard of Blue-ray or SACD, and to me, it makes them obsolete. Since everyone has heard of the now somewhat "ancient" formats of VHSs and Cassetes, it was understandable to assume that they could be used as examples of types of media that the resolution failed to cover. I didnt want to use futuristic media like Blue-ray or SACD and have my potential endorsers say "what is that?" like i did.

Bottom line: im trying to get this ridiculous resolution repealed and possibly have a worldwide set of rules FOR EVERY SINGLE MEDIA TYPE NOW, IN THE PAST, AND IN THE FUTURE. It doesn't matter at all (0%, 0, .0) what type of media i use as an example of media the author of the previous resolution failed to specify on because thats just what they are, examples.

I personally never heard of Blue-ray


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_ray
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HD_DVD

Blu-ray disc and HD DVD are the 2 competing format for High definition DVD and high capacity storage disc
Their technology are ready, but there is a giant commercial battle, as the 2 consortiums behind try to push his own format as the univrsal one.
Some players (and burner) are already available for each
=> it's our present

Sony PlaysStation 3, coming spring 2006 will use blu-ray disc
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_3

UMD is the disc used by Sony "PlayStation Portable", which is a huge success
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4218320.stm
it's our present

Super audio CD is an audio disc using 5.1 very high fidelity digital sound, you can buy some
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Audio_CD
it's our present

DualDisc is a double sided disc 5.1audio on 1 face DVd on the other, you can buy some
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dualdisc
it's our present

the High-tech Industries Association of Love and esterel feel badly insulted by the text of this obsolete repeal.

The High-tech Industries Association want to say that many UN nations have strong economies and strong High-tech sectors and they will never let think non UN nation that UN members technology evolution had stopped at the end of the XX century

and of course, be careful not to forget the most important:
DRMs

for those of you who have never watched a HD movie:

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/content_provider/film/ContentShowcase.aspx

please, let me know if you like it
it's great

did you listen to a word i said?

My next and hopefully final submittal will happen either sunday or monday.

Anyone interested in helping in my TG campaign or feels they can offer me a suggestion may telegram me. Any at all assistance is appreciated.

Jey

Description: UN Resolution #5: DVD region removal (Category: Free Trade; Strength: Mild) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: This resolution is in dire need of being repealed for its refusal to expand on the rights of certain regions DVDs. This resolution needs to be re-written to include the rights of each region/country when it comes to all their public media, including DVDs. Not to mention the numerous mis-spellings that plague our resolutions page 1.

Thus, "DVD region removal" is repealed.

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Fellow nations, isnt it time that we got rid of this ridiculous and under-developed resolution?

If you could provide the actual text of the resolution, it might aid some of us in our judgment. Regardless, if what you say is true, then certainly I would support this repeal and welcome a clarification on this issue.

I do have one question however: Could you specify what measures a new resolution that you might introduce as a replacement, would contain?

May the blessings of our otters be upon you.

Leonard Otterby
Ambassador for the Republic of Compadria to the U.N.

We're completely at a loss to understand why some of our distinguished colleagues seem to be tying themselves in knots over the language of this repeal. To us it seems awfully simple:

If you think the original resolution is defective and should be repealed, vote for the repeal.

If you think the original resolution is just fine, vote against the repeal.

Ausserland intends to vote FOR the repeal.

Lorelei M. Ahlmann
Ambassador-at-Large

If you could provide the actual text of the resolution, it might aid some of us in our judgment. Regardless, if what you say is true, then certainly I would support this repeal and welcome a clarification on this issue.

I do have one question however: Could you specify what measures a new resolution that you might introduce as a replacement, would contain?

May the blessings of our otters be upon you.

Leonard Otterby
Ambassador for the Republic of Compadria to the U.N.

This is not my most recent proposal, please check page 2, post number 18 for more information.

Sorry, thanks for the pointer Jey.

FINAL DRAFT PLEASE INFORM ME OF ANY RULES THAT ARE BROKEN...


REPEAL:
UNITED NATIONS RESOLUTION #5
DVD region removal
A resolution to reduce barriers to free trade and commerce.

Category: Free Trade
Strength: Mild
Proposed by: Mercia
Description: The removal of regions in DVD's that prevent a user from one region watching the DVD's form another. One region is all wek need.
Votes For: 4,266
Votes Against: 806
Implemented: Fri Jan 17 2003

Argument: While we are in favor of allowing free trade of all media types between regions, this “resolution” is completely unenforceable and, thus, meaningless. Without even mentioning the obvious misspellings in this past resolution, it has numerous flaws. Vital points that should have been covered in this resolution that were left unexpanded to include:

-The rights and privileges of nations and regions when it comes to all other media types, including: CDs, CD-Rs, CD-RWs, VHSs, Cassettes, Other Record Types, Nearly all computerized media such as: .jpg files, .wmv, .mpg, .avi, etc.

-The inevitability that media types will advance over time. This resolution only covers one type of media which is only effective during the time in which DVDs are used as standardized media.

-How this resolution would have been enforced, whether by a committee of the U.N., the governments of the nations of the U.N., or from other means.

In light of this resolution’s ineffectiveness and failure to expand further its explanation and purpose, be it resolved that,

Resolution #5, “DVD region removal” is repealed.

Be it further resolved that,
A replacement resolution containing the rights and privileges of regions and nations when it comes to their present and future media types is submitted.

Co-authored by Listeneisse

I can see that there is a problem with the resolution above and you make many good arguments, but there are several contentions I wish to put to you.

1). When you speak of rights and priviliges of nation states, are you suggesting that there should be greater controls and regulations of imports of DVD's? If so, are you not worried about the possibility of censorship and greater surveillance of such materials, which might well curb free expression. A clarification would be welcomed.

2). Media types evolve, yet evolution cannot be predicted. DVD's are a relatively recent technology, one that few would have forseen 10 or even 5 years before creation. Likewise, I-Pods, a staple it seems of the modern music industry these days, were a bolt from the blue, technologically speaking.

3). The enforcement of a resolution is automatic, so worrying over it is worthy, yet unecessary.

May the blessings of our otters be upon you.

Leonard Otterby
Ambassador for the Republic of Compadria to the U.N.

NEWEST DRAFT, SUBMITTAL PLANNED FOR MONDAY
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The U.N.

Realizing:

-A- The rights and privileges of nations and regions involving all other media types, including: Blu-ray disc, High Density DVD (HD DVD), Universal media disc (UMD), super Audio CD (SACD), DualDiscs, other record types, and nearly all computerized were not mentioned at all in the previous resolution.

-B- Other media supports exist or will arrive soon on the market and should be also free of a “regional system.” This resolution only covers one type of media which is only effective during the time in which DVDs are used as standardized media.

Regretting:

-C- This resolution is poorly written, and contains numerous grammatical errors which can be embarrassing to the U.N.

-D- This resolution is illogical to only include one type of media and this makes it in a way unenforceable and meaningless.

In light of this resolution ineffectiveness and failure to expand to other media types, be it resolved that:

Resolution #5, “DVD region removal” is repealed.

Co-Authored by: Love and esterel

We'll gladly support this repeal. The resolution to be repealed shouldn't be left cluttering up the list.

We think there's a problem with the very last paragraph, however.

Be it further resolved that,
A replacement resolution containing the rights and privileges of regions and nations when it comes to their present and future media types is submitted.
When you say "Be it...resolved that", it means that the NSUN requires the thing be done. The body as a whole cannot "resolve" that a proposal be submitted. That is up to an individual nation to decide to do.

Also.... We're not sure about this, but this may be a violation of the proposal rules: "Repeals can only repeal the existing resolution. You can provide reasons for repeal, but not any new provisions or laws." (Link (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=420465))

We'd suggest simply deleting that paragraph.

Good luck with the repeal.

Hurlbot Barfanger
Ambassador to the United Nations

We believe that each nation shall be able to have its own region if they want to or share the region within their region. We feel all nations will see increased purchase taxes off sales of electronic media.

thanks for your help Ausserland, i deleted the paragraph

**Proposal Has now been submitted with the content of post #61**

you may find it here: http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=UN_proposal1/match=removal

Thanks for everyone's support,

Jey