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All Un Delegates!!

Zandurian States
22-08-2005, 00:56
I have just submitted a proposal to the United Nations which outlines a plan to combat starvation and hunger throughout the world. Fittingly, this proposal is named "End World Hunger" and it's strong policies will forever end the terrible epidemic of starvation in every corner of the world. I would greatly appreciate all UN delegates approving this proposal so it can move on into resolution form. This will only take a minute of your time and it will be well worth it. The proposal can be found at:

http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/35432/page=UN_proposal/start=45

If you have any further questions feel free to send a telegram to me. My nation is Zandurian States in the region of Funny Guys. Thank you
Forgottenlands
22-08-2005, 01:39
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OBSERVING the fact that millions of citizens throughout the world are in fact starving and in poverty.

RECOGNIZING that despite the internal attempts by many nations to combat the starvation epidemic, poorer nations throughout the world are unable to overcome this issue without serious global support.

UNDERSTANDING that although it will be difficult to reverse this terrible problem, especially for nations with limited fiscal capabilities, it is morally mandatory that we, as UN nations, confront this devastation and prevail over the ever-present global hunger epidemic.

REQUIRING that all UN nations give one half of one percent of their annual budgets to the initiative against fighting hunger. Said tax will be payable in the form of manpower (to physically visit the afflicted regions with the intent to distribute necessary food), cash (to pay for aforementioned food), or transportion (to move supplies and people from region to region.

RECOMMENDING that this taxation of UN nations will continue until the hunger epidemic has been globally recognized as defeated, and that those regions previously devastated by starvation will be given the resources to grow and/or trade for food, thereby ensuring that hunger will never again seriously endanger any person on Earth.
Forgottenlands
22-08-2005, 01:42
Sorry, there's no comments about trying to create new agricultural areas or anything to actually combat the root of the problem: a local inability to either grow or import food.
English Humour
22-08-2005, 02:23
How would we do that? It would be hard because we would have to get enough money to support one nation while the UN goes in and moves land around? It would be incredably tough and expensive. I like this idea of a tax from all nations, but we would have to decide on how much each nation would pay, right? And since it's only UN nations paying, should it be only UN nations who get the help?
Zeldon 6229 Nodlez
22-08-2005, 03:03
Sorry, there's no comments about trying to create new agricultural areas or anything to actually combat the root of the problem: a local inability to either grow or import food.


I simply echo the views of Forgottenland... As unless we do something to promote new agricultural areas we do nothing to solve this problem... just to keep it alive...
Waterana
22-08-2005, 03:08
Throwing money at the problem is a short term solution at best. There would need to be some sort of guarentee that the money would go to the people who need it and not into the pockets of a corrupt government. I also believe any money given should be given on the provision that the government of the hunger problem nation concerned takes steps itself to solve the problem permenantly, otherwise the majority of UN nations will be supporting these "sponge states" forever.

How does that old saying go again...

Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day
Teach a man to fish and you feed him for the rest of his life.
Ynys Dywyll
22-08-2005, 03:24
I like the spirit in which this resolution was written. However, I think the sheer and overwhelming magnitude of its execution is not realistic. There would be far too many hands in the money pot, and what criteria would be used to determine which nations got the support, and in which order.
Zandurian States
22-08-2005, 03:30
If you read the last paragraph of my resolution, it clearly states that we will indeed get to the root of the problem:

"and that those regions previously devastated by starvation will be given the resources to grow and/or trade for food"

this isnt merely throwing random bouts of money at poor nations in the hope that they will spend it right, its UN-regulated funding that will not only cover starvation on the short-term stage, but divert funds to end global hunger by conquering the cause of it; initially by creating agricultural sectors in the starving nations economies, but also giving them trade options without slapping them across the board with massive export tariffs. This is a long-term plan that aims to eliminate hunger and starvation permanently..
Waterana
22-08-2005, 03:35
Ok, fair enough, but maybe you should expand on that point in the proposal and explain exactly what will be achieved and how. As the proposal reads now, that seems to be just tacked on to the end as an afterthought with the donations more vital, but in my opinion the long term solution is the most important part of the proposal and will be the one thing most likely to get you support.

I wouln't endorse it as is because it does read like a short term solution, perhaps you could consider rewording it and putting more emphasis on solving the problem permenantly.
Zandurian States
22-08-2005, 03:50
ahh thats true i suppose.. although its too late to change anything now.. if its not approved by the deadline (Wed.) i'll send another draft
Forgottenlands
22-08-2005, 03:56
Draft it here so we can help you find areas of deficiency before it becomes an unalterable document.
Ynys Dywyll
22-08-2005, 05:46
Please do the rewrite here, if you can streamline and better define long term goals we'd support this resolution in any way possible.
Zandurian States
22-08-2005, 16:02
yeah i'll definitely do the editing here but is there any way to alter the proposal before the deadline or do i have to wait until it fails to meet the required 133 delegates?
Flibbleites
22-08-2005, 16:40
You could ask the mods to delete it, but there is no way to just edit it once it has been submitted.

Bob Flibble
UN Representative
English Humour
22-08-2005, 17:46
Even the best UN proposals take several tries to finally get voted upon by the entire UN. Dont give up.
Stankistia
22-08-2005, 18:54
Correct me if I'm wrong, but does this proposal ask for a tax? Isn't that going against a previous U.N. resolution?

Find a better way.
English Humour
22-08-2005, 20:24
Why dont you suggest one instead of just ruining other people's ideas?


I reckon Zan, that you should find the one that goes against the tax and then see if you can find grounds to repeal it. So unless you totally want to change your idea your going to have to get two UN resolutions passed.
Waterana
22-08-2005, 20:40
I am pretty sure that past tax resolution doesn't apply to this proposal. It prevents the UN from taxing a nations citizens directly. Its still perfectly OK for the UN to tax a nations government.

UN Taxation Ban (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7029575&postcount=5).

Maybe to prevent fallout over the word "tax", the author could consider using "contributions" or something like that instead. It would be the same thing but using a less confrontational term.
Forgottenlands
22-08-2005, 23:39
I am pretty sure that past tax resolution doesn't apply to this proposal. It prevents the UN from taxing a nations citizens directly. Its still perfectly OK for the UN to tax a nations government.

UN Taxation Ban (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7029575&postcount=5).

Maybe to prevent fallout over the word "tax", the author could consider using "contributions" or something like that instead. It would be the same thing but using a less confrontational term.

yes...yes.... it's not a tax, it's a forced contrabution :p

Anyways, English Humour - please don't get mad at someone for stating his opinion about a proposal - not to mention noting a possible flaw (admittedly, it wasn't an actual flaw, but that's besides the point)
English Humour
22-08-2005, 23:57
Anyways, English Humour - please don't get mad at someone for stating his opinion about a proposal - not to mention noting a possible flaw (admittedly, it wasn't an actual flaw, but that's besides the point)

Sorry, just overprovective of this proposal prob. Dont mind me...