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Greetings Members of the UN, I recently attempted to put in a resolution that was rejected by The Powers That Be because they thought the proposal was a joke. I would like to ask for all of your assistance in rewriting this proposal so that it will be found acceptable and, hopefully, passable within the UN.

The ban is specifically against steel-toed boots outside of a construction zone and war zones. The reason for this is because some people could be indiscriminitly (spelling?) attacked by people with grudges and injured by those wearing steel-toed boots within a cities limits. While I agree that steel-toed boots are a very important need in a construction zone and during war times, there are those that could possibly seek to do bodily harm to another person, or creature, because they just plain do not like them.

If someone could help me to write this into a more acceptable version, I would by very happy.

Thank you.

Silvarian,
Leader of The Holy Republic of Silvarian

Greetings Members of the UN, I recently attempted to put in a resolution that was rejected by The Powers That Be because they thought the proposal was a joke. I would like to ask for all of your assistance in rewriting this proposal so that it will be found acceptable and, hopefully, passable within the UN.

The ban is specifically against steel-toed boots outside of a construction zone and war zones. The reason for this is because some people could be indiscriminitly (spelling?) attacked by people with grudges and injured by those wearing steel-toed boots within a cities limits. While I agree that steel-toed boots are a very important need in a construction zone and during war times, there are those that could possibly seek to do bodily harm to another person, or creature, because they just plain do not like them.

If someone could help me to write this into a more acceptable version, I would by very happy.

Thank you.

Silvarian,
Leader of The Holy Republic of Silvarian

You realize that would require people to change their boots at the gates of a construction site? I cannot support a resolution that suggests such a thing.

Why would you not support a ban on such things?

1) I was wearing steel toed boots as a rather useful item during my time working at a bottle depot. It was particularly useful at protecting my toes if I dropped a bottle - though other wearhouse items (when I was working back there) also made them useful.

2) I would not like carrying an extra pair of shoes between home and work, just so I am not wearing steel toed boots in public

3) I worry about those who are paid so little they can't afford both - so they ONLY own a pair of steel toed boots

4) Quite frankly, if someone is that interested in canning me, I'm less worried about the steel in the toe than the fact that they're trying to can me. I can't imagine how I ended up in that situation.

You know what - we can't get the nations to agree to ban guns - let alone carrying knives around with them. Steel toed boots in many nations is the least of your concerns to your personal health.

What if your company gave you a pair of steel-toed boots and you would place them in a locker at work so that they were always there? Give this option to all workplaces so that they may decide if the workplace is hazardous and have the company pay for them.

In my opinion this is in no way an international issue and is way too trivial for the UN to bother with. I can't imagine how someone in my nation wearing any type of boots is going to affect another nation and why this sort of thing needs national, let alone international attention. Uniform and protective clothing issues should be up to local authorities and companies to decide on and regulate.

What if your company gave you a pair of steel-toed boots and you would place them in a locker at work so that they were always there? Give this option to all workplaces so that they may decide if the workplace is hazardous and have the company pay for them.

:rolleyes:

Case study time:

Case 1) Ok, you start at a company and are handed a pair of boots that were used by at least 3 people before you. They aren't very snug, and you think someone threw up in the left one at one point.

Beautiful

Case 2) Let's say you have an unusual foot size - say you take Size 6 mens. The company should be expected to pay for a new pair just for you? And after you're done, you return them to the company who can't use them for another person? Hmm.....

But of course, both these cases can be solved by making it so the company has to buy a new pair for each of their employees......

Case 3) You spend one day on the job, and then quit because it's not your line of work.

Oh - the company just invested $100 in a guy who didn't do **** for them.

But hey, let's just say that this is fine (or any of this is fine)

Next issue: locker room on a construction site?

Why would you not support a ban on such things?

The same reason my government is not about to support a ban on 2x4s (also used at construction sites).

You are addressing a problem, but looking at the circumstances and not the cause. The problem is violence and aggravated assault. Ban people from kicking people, and they'll still express that violence ... and sadly the problem isn't solved.

The ban is specifically against steel-toed boots outside of a construction zone and war zones. The reason for this is because some people could be indiscriminitly (spelling?) attacked by people with grudges and injured by those wearing steel-toed boots within a cities limits.
Thank you.

The thing here is you want to ban Steel Toed Boots and will not stop people from attacking each other. Many people can in bare feet do more harm than anyone might them in shoed feet. Then what do we do.. There sould be laws on the books that can be used if you kick anyone.. in arse, head, or wherever.. Use the laws on the books to try them most have clauses to determine a level of assault.. Thus if granny in bare feet kicks you she may get couple hours community service, if butch in steel toes does then he gets more. If Kung Foo Charlie kicks you in bare feet he gets same thing a boxer might if he hits you.. Write assault laws to work to stop the crimes and punish those who do them as needed.

Taking away a weapon never works to stop one just leads them to find another weapon... Maybe a gun... or knife... still crime and folks get hurt... assign punishment by the level of the crime.. if they break three ribs in bare feet or boots you do hard time..

We won't be supporting any steel toed boot bans. Or pointed cowboy boot bans, hob-nailed boot bans, steel cleat bans, or any other footwear related bans. If you have a problem with rampant assaults by people wearing steel toed boots, then the root of the problem is most likely not boot related.

Novice assistant to delegate Mark Heln in a hallway at the NSUN: "Sir have you ever just stopped to look at this big picture? You know, survey the whole scene? Some might be struck my the detail of the grass. Others might be struck by the symbolism of those steel toed boots. But for me, I think the real value is in looking to the bigger, unifying themes."

Mark Heln: "Ya, but the picture as a whole is repulsive. But looking at the big picture is a great metaphor of the UN. We're here to tackle the big international issues, no matter how grotesque, not parse it into trivial snippits. The day I find myself lost staring at the proverbial boots of the UN is the day I retire."

Assistant: "That's the perspective I aspire to Mr. Heln. I look forward to....wait a sec. That reminds me. I remember reading about a proposal about boots...."

While the assistant recounts the proposal, Heln quickens his pace down the corridor, grumbling somtething about the big picture and prospective.

The ban is specifically against steel-toed boots outside of a construction zone and war zones.Steel toed boots aren't generally used in war zones; as they're heavier than standard boots, and the extra weight quickly becomes noticable during a long hike. That's not to say that no military personel use them (I'm currently wearing naval surplus boots that have steel toes and shanks), but they aren't terribly common in warzones.

Also, speaking from experiance, pointy-toed cowboy boots cause far more pain and injury than steel-toed boots. Also, stiletto heels probably cause more annual injury than steel toed boots.

This strikes me as attempting to legislate something that doesn't need it. What's the prevalence of serious injuries being caused by steel toed boots? Is it greater than the number caused by normal boots? What about steel toed shoes (yes they make them, I know many stock-room workers who wear them, and would be screwed by this)? What about other non-weapons that can injure people (scissors, hammers, awls, pens, heavy tape dispensers, power drills, electrical cords, etc.)?

Are there injuries caused by idiots kicking the snot out of people? Oh, probably. But why ban the boots? Just throw the people in the hoosegaw for assault and battery and call it a night.

Why do I feel like I've seen this before....

Oh Yes, silly proposals the return! :p