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A proposal to repeal a previously passed resolution


Category: Repeal
Resolution: #70
Proposed by: Venerable libertarians

Description: UN Resolution #70: Banning whaling (Category: Environmental; Industry Affected: All Businesses) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: We propose a repeal of this Resolution to make way for a new Conservation of endangered Wildlife Bill.
We believe a new Resolution covering all wildlife should also encompass all sea mammals and this resolution would hinder that.

We hereby ask you repeal this Resolution.
Thank you.

Approvals: 11 (Venerable libertarians, Omigodtheykilledkenny, Gerolsteiner, Weightshire, Flibbleites, Yeldan UN Mission, Puppetters, Thatsallmine, The Hunter Isles, Bunny Pancake, Domocolees)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 123 more approvals)

Voting Ends: Sat Aug 13 2005

The Hibernian Kingdom of Venerable libertarians has approved this proposal. [Withdraw Approval]

Delegates and members of the general assembly, the reason for this repeal in conjunction with the repeal of resolution 106 is self evident. I humbly request your support in approving and passing this repeal.

Now that you have posted a Draft to a Wildlife Act and the Dolphin Act has made it to Quorum, we need to work on getting this repealed.

The Republic of Valori stands behind this repeal 100%.The Wildlife Act covers all sea animals, and when The Wildlife Act is voted through (hopefully), there is no point in having "extra" protection. It's just beating the dead horse...

As with my suport of the repeal of 106 on Dolphins feel this must be also repealed to permit consolidation of UN Committee resources into one that will have more effect on protecting those animals members feel need some.

As we now find the Dolphin Committee working against the Whale Committee or a reverse of this where Whale Committee works against Dolphin Committee, thus one voiding efforts of the other to protect Whale or Dolphin.
Thus under single resolution we can establish a common committee to determine those animals that members are protecting but need support in doing so outside their own border thus the UN comes in. As a single committee can first educate members on what animals are protected by each member as well as determine where additional resources are to protect them..
Thus serve as a common point for animal protection to prevent any from ever becoming endanger and possibly lost forever due to conflicts over then being worth protecting at all.. between UN member nations.
This we can hope will be viewed by some outside the UN as a positive action by the UN to do something for our planet and not just memberl nations or only the UN.
As the benifits from protecting say one animal will be a small move to help mankind... Banning cutting down rainforest to save a monkey means fresh air for man and water as well as other items found only in rainforest. Banning dumping toxic waste in the ocean to protect Whales or Dolphins will in the end make them cleaner for manking's use.

One Common Committee to educate membership on efforts of a single member to protect an animal will avoid duplication of efforts and leave funds and time to work on those new issues that mankind needs help with, while still protecting any animal found needing protection.

So suport this and also let those working to get a propsal through to Protect Animals know your concerns on this.. Check out debates in that in another area on forum for it. then support that when it comes to vote.

Slow down.


You haven't closed the deal on Dolphins just yet.

Members of the General Assembly,
It is vital that this is repealed. Both this and the Dolphin repeal make way for the New UNCoESB currently up for discussion.
I again Appeal to all delegates to seek out the repeal for this and approve it.
Thank you.

Slow down.


You haven't closed the deal on Dolphins just yet.

Yeah - but if Dolphin repeal fails, so will the Whale repeal.

Yeah - but if Dolphin repeal fails, so will the Whale repeal.Well, we'll just have to make certain the dolphin proposal doesn't fail.

And what would PC have in mind to ensure success?

In looking over the current Resolution 70 noted this...

* A commission is set up by the United Nations to study the effects of overfishing and on other human activities on the marine ecosystem, and to propose solutions. If it sees a genuine need for scientific whaling, then it is empowered to licence limited scientific whaling.


Thus we have a Commission/Committee already in place doing what might be expected of any such toward any animal being protected. At this time the staff of this Commission/Committee have little to do yet they seem to be taking up space that cost the UN to keep. Two members of this so called Commission are on a so called Mission to the Resort Beaches of Newpleasure to Watch and Study Bigboo Whale off the beach.. They are from UN Office of Budget Spending 2,800 (figures UN Finance Committe) each just to get there and they have not filed for other expenses yet..

Consider 34000x2x2800 Watching and Studying some every Protected Animal.. as there are several other animals within the same area that need protection more than the Whales do.. but this Commission is only concerned with the Whales..

One Commission/Committee would save funds and allow them to decide what animals in any region they enter may need watching and studying.. As any members may request them in to watch and study then consider them be added to a list of Animals to Protect; then apply any funds needed to promote education on how to protect them.. As well as assist in protection efforts.

Rather than have 68000 UN Committee Member polutioning those beaches thus driving another animal to endangered status so we need a new Commission/Committee....... Also they had to get special approval to enter the beach area due to national concerns about people entering it that delayed them some from getting onto beach thus they Spent time at another Resort near these beaches to wait clearances for them to watch and study six whales from the beaches, this cost amost 12,340 (figures UN Finace Committee)... for the two day delay. Now figure that times 34000.. So one Animal Protection Act would save funds..

OOC: For those of you that like Real Life Examples of how this might be... My State in US has 159 Counties... The County I live in just spent 14000 to send four County Commissioners and a clerk to Hawaii for a week to a Conference there.. Thus figure the State spent... 159x14000 for the Conference. This Conference could be held in the State bringing in people from States around my State at far less than 14000 basic cost for just four in Hawii thus allowing most to send more than five to the conference for the same 14000 cost.

Also some counties got so much bad vibes from the people that they didn't go..but many went.. There is still a few looking into just why they went and how much was vacation for them or work related.. More will come on this.. as they file for other expenses and get people madder that they went in first place. Elections coming in November so will see.. what happens..

Now if we see UN as State figure 14000x34000 to send all committes out to one area to see if one animal needs some protection. On the polution part.. figure how much damage just ten people might do to an area where an endanger animal might nest... then have 34000 people enter it each with no idea of what else might be in that area as all they would be aware or concerned with is their protected animal..

wait are we fer dolphins or whales

Well it appears the Repeal has failed in its first attempt by yours truly. The main reason it seems from the replies to a well organised telegram campaign by Myself and Yeldan UN Mission ( Many thanks, By the way!) that the Delegates do not wish for to have a period of time where there are no protections in place for whales.
So with a hope to put the new conservation proposal through for approval and then ratification without the repeal of the whaling ban being secured first i have approached the mods for info on the legality of doing such.

After i get their answer i will either try another repeal of Resolution # 70 or submit my proposed conservation bill to the delegates for approval.

Watch this space!

why not just leave it inplace for the moment

when the general wildlife bill is passed thenit will surely supercede this bill your trying to get repealed

also it means there is specific protection for whales which is surely all to the good

Well it appears the Repeal has failed in its first attempt by yours truly. The main reason it seems from the replies to a well organised telegram campaign by Myself and Yeldan UN Mission ( Many thanks, By the way!) that the Delegates do not wish for to have a period of time where there are no protections in place for whales.
So with a hope to put the new conservation proposal through for approval and then ratification without the repeal of the whaling ban being secured first i have approached the mods for info on the legality of doing such.

After i get their answer i will either try another repeal of Resolution # 70 or submit my proposed conservation bill to the delegates for approval.

Watch this space!

If the mods say that the Wildlife Bill is not legal - send the whale repeal through again - and anyone who says that they won't support it because of the problem with the momentary lack of protection, note to them that the general wildlife bill cannot pass (as according to the all powerful mods) while the Whale Protection resolution is still in place. You could try and also target more capitalistic countries who wouldn't mind a chance to get their hands on whale blubber

Another option is you could pull something similar to UNSA, where it does not let the law apply to any animal protected by a previously passed and continuing to stand resolution. Wow....there are some serious issues with duplication now available thanks to UNSA......

If the mods say that the Wildlife Bill is not legal - send the whale repeal through again - and anyone who says that they won't support it because of the problem with the momentary lack of protection, note to them that the general wildlife bill cannot pass (as according to the all powerful mods) while the Whale Protection resolution is still in place. You could try and also target more capitalistic countries who wouldn't mind a chance to get their hands on whale blubber

Another option is you could pull something similar to UNSA, where it does not let the law apply to any animal protected by a previously passed and continuing to stand resolution. Wow....there are some serious issues with duplication now available thanks to UNSA......
The New Conservation Bill has been given a mods Blessing (thank you Hack) and has been submitted for approval. I appeal to all Delegates to seek out my proposal and approve it.

As the repeal of resolution 106 has been approved by the Delegates and the UNCoESB has been submitted for approval, I see no point in waiting to repeal resolution 70. I have submitted the following repeal.


A proposal to repeal a previously passed resolution


Category: Repeal
Resolution: #70
Proposed by: Venerable libertarians

Description: UN Resolution #70: Banning whaling (Category: Environmental; Industry Affected: All Businesses) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: Recognising the importance of conservation of whales and insuring the species survive,

Noting the submission of the proposal "UNCoESB", proposing a single resolution to protect against the extinction of ANY animal,

Noting the fact that if the "UNCoESB" becomes a UN Resolution, Resolutions 70 and 106 would become redundant,

Recognising Resolution 106 is now up for repeal by the General assembly,

We hereby request this resolution be made null and void.

Approvals: 1 (Venerable libertarians)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 134 more approvals)

Voting Ends: Wed Aug 17 2005

The Hibernian Kingdom of Venerable libertarians has approved this proposal. [Withdraw Approval]

Again I ask all Delegates to approve the Repeal.

Hey, you've alright got my approval. I'd suggest stepping up the TG campaign.

The campaign will start tonight, and we will be doing a joint campaign for both the repeal of resolution 70 and the proposed conservation bill.