NationStates Jolt Archive


Re-submitted: Fair trade provisions

Markodonia
09-08-2005, 15:26
A resolution to reduce income inequality and increase basic welfare.
Category: Social Justice
Strength: Significant

Description: DEFINING “protectionism" as the use of regulations such as high tariffs to discourage the import of particular products,

NOTING WITH CONCERN continuing poverty and destitution in many Less Economically Developed Countries (LEDCs),

RECOGNISING the increasing importance of globalisation in a world in which the scope of information technology and trade between nations is growing at a considerable rate,

FULLY AWARE that trade barriers in More Economically Developed Countries (MEDCs) are responsible for many LEDCs being unable to export sufficient goods for hard working citizens to see any increase in personal wealth,

ACKNOWLEDGING that free trade alone will not close serious gaps in social justice in LEDCs,

FURTHER CONCERNED at the growth of terrorist groups in nationstates where citizens are disillusioned by a global system in which MEDCs profit unfairly from their labour,

1. PROPOSES an international system of product labelling that recognises products which are produced in circumstances that conform to United Nations resolutions, and in which the price paid for the product will cover the cost of production and facilitate both a living wage for the labourers concerned and facilitate further social development;

2. ENDORSES the encouragement of institutional, economic and environmental sustainability in the production of all goods;

3. STRONGLY URGES an end to protectionism in MEDC nationstates that do not allow LEDC trading partners to similarly protect their own markets;

4. ENCOURAGES the abolition of agricultural subsidies in MEDCs.

With this resolution I am attempting to undermine the economic exploitation of third world nations in order for such nationstates to be able to better live off the good they produce.
Love and esterel
09-08-2005, 15:43
The Most Serene Republic of Love and esterel strongly support this proposition

The Most Serene Republic of Love and esterel is a MEDC (More Economically Developed Countries), but we think our trade with LEDCs (Less Economically Developed Countries) must be fair.


3. STRONGLY URGES an end to protectionism in MEDC nationstates that do not allow LEDC trading partners to similarly protect their own markets;

4. ENCOURAGES the abolition of agricultural subsidies in MEDCs.


even, these 2 points don't seems directly in favour of our economy, The Most Serene Republic of Love and esterel has as the aim (even if we don't achieve it sometimes) to give preference to the interest of people worldwide over its own interest
Love and esterel
09-08-2005, 15:56
The Most Serene Republic of Love and esterel think that this propositin will help, along with the "The Microcredit Bazaar", to developp the economy of the LEDCs (Less Economically Developed Countries)

and in return, these growing economies will have the need for more hi-tech industries and will then import some of them from The Most Serene Republic of Love and esterel and others MEDC (More Economically Developed Countries)

it's a WIN-WIN proposition
Markodonia
09-08-2005, 16:09
Thanks for your support :)

Markodonian economists insist that this resolution will contribute to a more stable international economy in contrast to the current situation where richer countries leech off the resources of weaker nationstates. In the long term such a situation has a negative impact upon even the wealthier powers.
Marxist Rhetoric
09-08-2005, 18:58
As an LEDC, I find that this will not help my nation. Why can I not have tariffs to protect my budding industries? This will keep the LEDCs on a lower level than the MEDCs as the MEDCs will continue to outproduce them and without tariffs they cannot protect their market. This will only increase my trade deficit and cause foreign domination.
Mikitivity
09-08-2005, 19:11
As an LEDC, I find that this will not help my nation. Why can I not have tariffs to protect my budding industries? This will keep the LEDCs on a lower level than the MEDCs as the MEDCs will continue to outproduce them and without tariffs they cannot protect their market. This will only increase my trade deficit and cause foreign domination.

If I may ...

The resolution actually is creating a one-way trade restriction, on MEDCs. The problem currently is that if your government were to enact a tarriff on Mikitivity made mouse traps or trains, what is to stop my government from placing a tarriff on Marxist Rhetoric produced oatmeal?

It looks to me like this resolution basically attempts to deal with one side of protectionism:

3. STRONGLY URGES an end to protectionism in MEDC nationstates that do not allow LEDC trading partners to similarly protect their own markets;

The fourth clause seems to be a way to prevent my government from giving Mikitivity oats farmers an unfair advantage to Marxist Rhetoric farmers, by preventing my government from just sliding a bit of money to local farmers.


Now in our real NationStates world, Mikitivity is literally in between a rock and a hard place (literally the Thuvian and Solace mountains), so no amount of subsidy is going to result in the farms of Hawkins (our only canton with any traditional argiculture) producing enough oats, wheat, hopps, and barely to feed my people. So I'd like it known that my government is not going to penalize nations for producing excess food. :)
Marxist Rhetoric
10-08-2005, 03:32
Alright, fine Mikitivity, but what about command economies? Are we considered to be giving subsidies to our oat farmers?
Markodonia
10-08-2005, 14:45
Alright, fine Mikitivity, but what about command economies? Are we considered to be giving subsidies to our oat farmers?

You are...however, as an LEDC this resolution shall protect you from MEDCs forcing you to drop such subsidies as a prequisite for trading with them.

The issues with different kinds of protectionism are many but the idea of this resolution is to attempt to deal with some of the more glaring inequalities in the world marketplace whilst leaving other problems either for nationstates to work out between themselves, or future resolutions.

Also, there are no commanding clauses...note that clause four, arguably the most radical, is merely "encouraging". The idea is to bring around a new international consensus in order to apply diplomatic pressure upon nationstates to change their economic practices rather than force them. Of course, those nations on the edge of an economic collapse that can be prevented by certain protectionist policies and communist states will not be prevented from acting temporarily in an entirely self interested manner.
Marxist Rhetoric
11-08-2005, 09:04
What if finally, I am able to bring my economy out of the gutter (as i am now trying to do), do I betray my ideals and my revolution because suddenly I am considered to be giving illegal support to my farmers?
Love and esterel
12-08-2005, 10:52
90 approvals, well done

we, hope it will make it
Commustan
12-08-2005, 19:42
Ended Agricultural Subsidies in MEDCs will make many farms go bankrupt, which means less food globally, less food for world aid. With the increasing world population we need more farms.
Wegason
12-08-2005, 19:58
Why on earth is this a social justice resolution???

It calls for the end of subsidies for agriculture (which is good) and for a removal of barriers and tariffs by MEDCs.

All of those measures are free trade, this resolution should be removed for being in the wrong category! This should be a free trade resolution.
Valori
12-08-2005, 21:21
While the idea of helping the lesser nations, is good, I don't believe you can do so by affecting those with Strong Economies. In the process of bringing the little guy up, you can't stomp the big guy down.

It should be up to the producer, to decide how much they sell their product for, if the price is in reason. For the most part, if they try to exploit the lesser countries with an increase in price, then the Countries will go elsewhere. And unless, there is no other seller, it should be up to the producer to determine prices.

Also, if an Economically stable government wants to help financially support a lesser developed government in the public interest, shouldn't it be up to the two sovereign nations.