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draft proposal: The Sex Education Act

Love and esterel
06-08-2005, 17:09
this proposal had been subimtted at the UN, if you agree you can approve it here:
http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/60242/page=UN_proposal/start=24

here is the final draft:
__________________________________________________________________
The Sex Education Act

A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.


Category: Human Rights


Strength: Mild


Proposed by: Love and esterel

Description: The United Nations,

DEEPLY DISTURBED that in many Nations:
-A- Sexual education is lacking
-B- Education about female sexuality is often unheard of and no mention is made of the clitoris, the statistically most erogenous zone for women, which is not directly correlated with reproduction
-C- Lack of quality sex education can lead, many times, to unplanned teen pregnancies and unnecessary abortion

OBSERVING that:
-D- Sex has two important functions: reproduction and pleasure
-E- Sexual activity is a common activity, contributing to the happiness of many people, worldwide

URGES:
-1- All Nations to organize and secure some sexual education courses for all, before the age of 18-years; and
-2- All Nations to include in these courses, information about male sexuality, female sexuality, opposite-sex relationships, same-sex relationships, masturbation, birth control methods, abortion right, AIDS and sexually transmitted diseases without any value judgment
_________________________________________________________________














Hello,

The Most Serene Republic of Love and esterel would like to introduce:
_____________________________________________________________
The Sex Education Act

The United Nations,

DEEPLY DISTURBED that in many Nations (mainly the poorest, but not only) sexual education is lacking and especially women specific sexuality is often unheard of

OBSERVING that:
- Sex has 2 main important functions: reproduction and pleasure
- Sexual activity is an important factor of happiness worldwide for everybody
- The main statistically pleasurable sexual practice for women, clitoris sexuality, is not directly correlated with reproduction

URGES
- All Nations to include some sexual education courses for all, inside their national education program
(these national education programs have been made mandatory by the UN Resolution #28 “Free Education”
http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=UN_past_resolutions/start=27)
- All Nations to include in these courses, informations about women specific sexuality (clitoris sexuality)
______________________________________________________________

this is of course a draft, and we would be very happy if you can propose any improvements or ideas

Thanks
The Most Serene Republic of Love and esterel
Antipolo
06-08-2005, 18:00
I feel that governments and specifically the people have the right to choose which type of sexual education is appropriate for their children.

Dadinho
Secretary of Education
Yeldan UN Mission
06-08-2005, 18:06
http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=UN_past_resolutions/start=68

http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=UN_past_resolutions/start=61


http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=UN_past_resolutions/start=27)
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You're not planning to have url's in the resolution are you?
Love and esterel
06-08-2005, 18:21
no url in resolution?
Yeldan UN Mission
06-08-2005, 18:23
I suppose you can have url's in a resolution, but the vB Code we use here on the forum won't work.
Thermidore
06-08-2005, 18:37
DEEPLY DISTURBED that in many Nations (mainly the poorest, but not only) sexual education is lacking and especially women specific sexuality is often unheard of


Just on the syntax, "especially women specific sexuality is often..." is really clunky and at first I thought you made a typo, and I don't think you can use "especially" and the "often" for tautological reasons. Perhaps "and in developing countries, education about female sexuality is often unheard of."

If you insist on using women specific sexuality, change "women" to "woman" and put a hyphen in as it makes it less bulky -> woman-specific sexuality

Also if I'd refer to the free education act up at the top, and I'm not if I'd refer to the FGM resolution - what are you drawing from this, that's in your resolution?

Again with the "sex has 2 main important functions" either leave out main or important, while not exactly a tautology it looks clunky, also in general if you're only referring to one number, spell it.

(Lastly IRL there's a big push for equality in receiving education, do we have resolutions about gender parity in education
http://portal.unesco.org/education/en/ev.php-URL_ID=14090&URL_DO=DO_TOPIC&URL_SECTION=201.html if not maybe you could use a resolution on gender parity and piggy-back the sex education act onto it.
just a thought!
Hope some of my comments are useful
Cheers
Thermidore
The Celestial Peace
06-08-2005, 19:08
OBSERVING that:
...
- Sexual activity is an important factor of happiness worldwide for everybody
...


We respectfully disagree with this claim. There are those who are uninterested and/or incapable of sexual activity. This shouldn't require a large modification to the act as written. Perhaps, "Sexual activity is a common activity, contributing to the happiness of many people, worldwide." would work better?
Sevinastan
06-08-2005, 19:36
Good idea,, I support it!
Agnostic Deeishpeople
06-08-2005, 21:06
I support. But why only women sexuality? Seems a bit sexist.
The Black New World
06-08-2005, 21:15
Sex has 2 main important functions: reproduction and pleasure
That's relative. Really relative. Especially if you don't want to increase your number of relatives.

Which brings me nicely to my next point: why no mention of the availability of birth control and abortion?

I think your resolution should aim at inclusion and not ensuring specific rights for women. At the very least you could mention same sex relationships and masturbation.

Giordano,
UN representative,
The Black New World
Love and esterel
06-08-2005, 22:53
ok thnks for all your comments, i will write a new proposal taking them into account
Love and esterel
07-08-2005, 00:49
ok we write a new draft which we hope take into consideration the importants comments by Yeldan UN Mission, Thermidore, The Celestial Peace, Agnostic Deeishpeople and The Black New World

________________________________________________________________
The Sex Education Act
The United Nations,

HAVING ADOPTED:
- The UN Resolution #28 “Free Education”

DEEPLY DISTURBED that in many Nations (mainly developing ones, but not only):
- Sexual education is lacking
- Education about female sexuality is often unheard of (statistically, the most erogenous zone for women is the clitoris which is not directly correlated with reproduction)
- Birth control methods and Abortion Right (along with AIDS and sexually transmitted disease) are not well known

OBSERVING that:
- Sex has 2 main functions: reproduction and pleasure
- Sexual activity is a common activity, contributing to the happiness of many people, worldwide

URGES
- All Nations to include some sexual education courses for all, inside their national educational program
- All Nations to include in these courses, information about man sexuality, woman sexuality, opposite-sex relationships, same-sex relationships and masturbation without any value judgment
________________________________________________________________

we hope your comments are really been understood, otherwise let us know
we will welcome any other improvements

we dont think think the "same same-sex relashioniship" point will undermine the whole proposition but maybe the "masturbation" point will? Anybody got an idea to introduce it in a more subtil way

maybe i need to mention transgender?

thanks
The Most Serene Republic of Love and esterel
The Most Glorious Hack
07-08-2005, 02:08
DEEPLY DISTURBED that in many Nations (mainly developing ones, but not only):Parenthetical statement adds nothing.

- Sexual education is lacking
- Education about female sexuality is often unheard of (statistically, the most erogenous zone for women is the clitoris which is not directly correlated with reproduction)If the first assertation is true, the second is necessarily true. No sense in singling out female sexuality. Parenthetical statement is also unnecessary.

- Birth control methods and Abortion Right (along with AIDS and sexually transmitted disease) are not well knownAbortion rights are already enshrined in UN law; this is, again, included in general sexual education.

OBSERVING that:
- Sex has 2 main functions: reproduction and pleasure
- Sexual activity is a common activity, contributing to the happiness of many people, worldwideSuperfluous.

URGESThis is now a 'Mild' Proposal.

- All Nations to include in these courses, information about man sexuality, woman sexuality,Should be "male" and "female"
Mikitivity
07-08-2005, 02:12
This is now a 'Mild' Proposal.


Tangent: have you been bumping proposals based on a misclassification of the strength?

Personally I would think that it is hard for players to gauge this, but in some cases can see that resolutions that are mild in tone should be classified as such, and resolutions that are profound in their impact should be also classified accordingly.
Love and esterel
07-08-2005, 02:28
New draft

________________________________________________________________
The Sex Education Act
The United Nations,

HAVING ADOPTED:
- The UN Resolution #28 “Free Education”

DEEPLY DISTURBED that in many Nations:
- Sexual education is lacking
- Education about female sexuality is often unheard of (statistically, the most erogenous zone for women is the clitoris which is not directly correlated with reproduction)

OBSERVING that:
- Sex has 2 main functions: reproduction and pleasure
- Sexual activity is a common activity, contributing to the happiness of many people, worldwide

URGES
- All Nations to include some sexual education courses for all, inside their national educational program
- All Nations to include in these courses, informations about male sexuality, female sexuality, opposite-sex relationships, same-sex relationships, masturbation, Birth control methods, Abortion Right, AIDS and sexually transmitted disease without any value judgment
________________________________________________________________

we thanks The Most Glorious Hack for its comments
but we want to keep:
""""- Education about female sexuality is often unheard of (statistically, the most erogenous zone for women is the clitoris which is not directly correlated with reproduction)"""""
and
"""""""OBSERVING that:
- Sex has 2 main functions: reproduction and pleasure
- Sexual activity is a common activity, contributing to the happiness of many people, worldwide""""""""

to oppose the statement (which is very often pronounced on newspaper, TV, internet....) that:
sex <=> reproduction
Love and esterel
07-08-2005, 02:29
should we use URGES or something else?
Yeldan UN Mission
07-08-2005, 02:51
should we use URGES or something else?If you keep "URGES" then it is, in fact, a Mild Resolution. Also, in this part:
- Education about female sexuality is often unheard of (statistically, the most erogenous zone for women is the clitoris which is not directly correlated with reproduction)
I agree with The Most Glorious Hack on removing the part in parentheses. It just looks out of place.
Love and esterel
07-08-2005, 03:18
If you keep "URGES" then it is, in fact, a Mild Resolution.

we dont understand what "mild" imply?
"CALLS UPON"? "REQUESTS"?, ....are better?
please can you help us? what do you advise us?

[QUOTE=I agree with The Most Glorious Hack on removing the part in parentheses. It just looks out of place.[/QUOTE]

we think it's an important part of the proposal, in many countries people are educated about penetration but dont know anything about clitoris (maybe there is a better way to say it, please let me know)
Mikitivity
07-08-2005, 03:38
we dont understand what "mild" imply?
"CALLS UPON"? "REQUESTS"?, ....are better?
please can you help us? what do you advise us?


Sure. :)

What they are suggesting, is that when you submit your proposal, if you use language like "URGES", "CALLS UPON", and "REQUESTS" that based on what they are seeing that the strength of the proposal should be mild.

Depending upon the category of your proposal, you need to also come up with a "strength". Human rights, social justice, international security, global disarmament, political stability, the futherment of democracy, moral decency, and free trade resolutions can be:

* Mild
* Significant
* Strong

This is important because the resolutions change our game stats, and the amount they do this by is determined by two important factors:

(1) the resolution / proposal strength, and
(2) each nation's current "classification"

The math involved is still a secret to players like you and me. :) The moderators of course can see what goes on, but the point behind the game is for it to be a mild mystery to us (a point I've always enjoyed).

Anyways, they aren't telling you not to refine and work on your idea, but based on the text, they feel it should be "mild" instead of "significant" or "strong".
Love and esterel
07-08-2005, 03:58
ok thanks Mikitivity, we understand the point now

but we are not really sure what could be the best for this resolution (as we are new to the UN)
"mild" or ""significiant"
urges or request or recommands or calls upon or
we would appreciate advices
Love and esterel
07-08-2005, 04:20
another question
Category: Human Rights?
Yeldan UN Mission
07-08-2005, 04:21
we dont understand what "mild" imply?
"CALLS UPON"? "REQUESTS"?, ....are better?
please can you help us? what do you advise us?
OOC: A Mild resolution is not necessarily a bad thing as it is generally easier to get people to support them. I'm not advising you to change it, thats up to you. This (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8681196&postcount=3) thread and this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=420465) one should be helpful.

we think it's an important part of the proposal, in many countries people are educated about penetration but dont know anything about clitoris (maybe there is a better way to say it, please let me know)
I'm not disagreeing with you about clitoral stimulation, I just don't like parentheses in the text of proposals. You could change it to: "- Education about female sexuality is often unheard of and no mention is made of clitoral stimulation, which is not directly correlated with reproduction."
Yeldan UN Mission
07-08-2005, 04:22
another question
Category: Human Rights?
Yes.
Love and esterel
07-08-2005, 04:35
thanks to Yeldan UN Mission

here is the "candidate release" proposal
_________________________________________________________________

The Sex Education Act

Category: Human Rights
Strength: Mild

The United Nations,

HAVING ADOPTED:
- The UN Resolution #28 “Free Education”

DEEPLY DISTURBED that in many Nations:
- Sexual education is lacking
- Education about female sexuality is often unheard of and no mention is made of the clitoris, the statistically most erogenous zone for women, which is not directly correlated with reproduction

OBSERVING that:
- Sex has 2 main functions: reproduction and pleasure
- Sexual activity is a common activity, contributing to the happiness of many people, worldwide

URGES
- All Nations to include some sexual education courses for all, inside their national educational program
- All Nations to include in these courses, informations about male sexuality, female sexuality, opposite-sex relationships, same-sex relationships, masturbation, Birth control methods, Abortion Right, AIDS and sexually transmitted disease without any value judgment
________________________________________________________________
Forgottenlands
07-08-2005, 05:03
thanks to Yeldan UN Mission

here is the "candidate release" proposal
_________________________________________________________________

The Sex Education Act

Category: Human Rights
Strength: Mild

The United Nations,

HAVING ADOPTED:
- The UN Resolution #28 “Free Education”

DEEPLY DISTURBED that in many Nations:
- Sexual education is lacking
- Education about female sexuality is often unheard of and no mention is made of the clitoris, the statistically most erogenous zone for women, which is not directly correlated with reproduction

OBSERVING that:
- Sex has 2 main functions: reproduction and pleasure
- Sexual activity is a common activity, contributing to the happiness of many people, worldwide

URGES
- All Nations to include some sexual education courses for all, inside their national educational program
- All Nations to include in these courses, informations about male sexuality, female sexuality, opposite-sex relationships, same-sex relationships, masturbation, Birth control methods, Abortion Right, AIDS and sexually transmitted disease without any value judgment
________________________________________________________________

I cringe a bit at the "Free Education" comment - I'm a bit concerned about a House of Cards infraction (especially since it wasn't in the version Hack looked at). Either way, I feel it is rather irrelevant. Stating that it should be adopted in their national education program means that as long as Resolution 28 stands, it will be necessary to provide it (if the will provide it) freely. However, should Resolution 28 fall (which is the House of Cards argument)....actually, it still does nothing.

Other than that, looks ok.
Yeldan UN Mission
07-08-2005, 05:09
I cringe a bit at the "Free Education" comment - I'm a bit concerned about a House of Cards infraction

Other than that, looks ok.
I didn't even notice that before. Yes, it should be removed.
The Most Glorious Hack
07-08-2005, 05:29
Tangent: have you been bumping proposals based on a misclassification of the strength?

Umm... maybe 2 out of the 500+ I've nuked? They were painfully obvious ones too, like banning war with a 'mild' strength or the like.
Yeldan UN Mission
07-08-2005, 05:30
Actually, I'm not sure it constitutes a "house of cards" violation.
] * House of Cards

"RECALLING Resolution #3, #4, #34, #36, #67, and #457..."

This is becoming problematic. If those Resolutions are repealed, you've gutted the base of your own Resolution. Also, we start to run into issues for new proposals.

Currently, if you want to ban gay marriage, you have to repeal numerous Resolutions. Only a couple if you're talking about Resolutions that explicitly mention it; but a whole bunch if you have to Repeal every Resolution that references the few that deal explicitly with it.

A Proposal must be able to stand on its own even if all referenced Resolutions were struck from existance. If your Proposal "builds on" an existing Resolution, you're ammending that resolution. Excessive back referencing is not acceptable either. Create a new Proposal, don't just parrot existing ones. (see: Duplication)
This one would be able to stand on it's own even if "Free Education" were repealed.
Forgottenlands
07-08-2005, 05:54
Actually, I'm not sure it constitutes a "house of cards" violation.

This one would be able to stand on it's own even if "Free Education" were repealed.

Yeah - that's why I cringed rather than actually said it was an infraction. I am not sure if it would actually constitute an infraction

*looks at Hack
Texan Hotrodders
07-08-2005, 08:29
I pretty much agree with Hack's comments (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9389467&postcount=13) interestingly enough, but I see neither sufficient reason to support or oppose this proposal in its current form.
Mikitivity
07-08-2005, 09:12
Umm... maybe 2 out of the 500+ I've nuked? They were painfully obvious ones too, like banning war with a 'mild' strength or the like.

Hmmm, do you have an actual count (perhaps for the Mod Olympics) of the number of proposals that are deleted by all the mods combined and another count of the number submitted?

Just another curiousity.
Love and esterel
07-08-2005, 14:15
thanks to Forgottenlands
here is the "release candidate 2" of the proposal
does the point on italic here, seems OK?
i replaced also "main" by "important" (in italic)
___________________________________________________________________
The Sex Education Act

Category: Human Rights
Strength: Mild

The United Nations,

DEEPLY DISTURBED that in many Nations:
- Sexual education is lacking
- Education about female sexuality is often unheard of and no mention is made of the clitoris, the statistically most erogenous zone for women, which is not directly correlated with reproduction

OBSERVING that:
- Sex has 2 important functions: reproduction and pleasure
- Sexual activity is a common activity, contributing to the happiness of many people, worldwide

URGES
- All Nations to organize and secure some sexual education courses for all, before the age of 18
- All Nations to include in these courses, informations about male sexuality, female sexuality, opposite-sex relationships, same-sex relationships, masturbation, birth control methods, abortion right, AIDS and sexually transmitted diseases without any value judgment
________________________________________________________________
Thermidore
07-08-2005, 14:55
Hmm i'd add something about the fact that proper sex education can lead to a decrease in unplanned/teen pregnancies.

also "information" is the plural, not "informations"
Love and esterel
07-08-2005, 15:14
thanks to thermidore

here is the proposition "candidate release 3"
___________________________________________________________________
The Sex Education Act

Category: Human Rights
Strength: Mild

The United Nations,

DEEPLY DISTURBED that in many Nations:
- Sexual education is lacking
- Education about female sexuality is often unheard of and no mention is made of the clitoris, the statistically most erogenous zone for women, which is not directly correlated with reproduction
- Abscence or improper sex eduction can lead, many times, to unplanned teen pregnancies and abortion

OBSERVING that:
- Sex has 2 important functions: reproduction and pleasure
- Sexual activity is a common activity, contributing to the happiness of many people, worldwide

URGES
- All Nations to organize and secure some sexual education courses for all, before the age of 18
- All Nations to include in these courses, information about male sexuality, female sexuality, opposite-sex relationships, same-sex relationships, masturbation, birth control methods, abortion right, AIDS and sexually transmitted diseases without any value judgment
________________________________________________________________
Forgottenlands
07-08-2005, 15:58
- Abscence or improper sex eduction can lead, many times, to unplanned teen pregnancies and abortion

maybe change that to "unnecessary abortion" (like, it doesn't prevent problems with rape and any abortions that happen there, but it does prevent abortions used because they didn't know how to use a condom).
Love and esterel
07-08-2005, 16:02
thanks to Forgottenlands
here is the proposition "candidate release 4"
___________________________________________________________________
The Sex Education Act

Category: Human Rights
Strength: Mild

The United Nations,

DEEPLY DISTURBED that in many Nations:
- Sexual education is lacking
- Education about female sexuality is often unheard of and no mention is made of the clitoris, the statistically most erogenous zone for women, which is not directly correlated with reproduction
- Abscence or improper sex eduction can lead, many times, to unplanned teen pregnancies and unnecessary abortion

OBSERVING that:
- Sex has 2 important functions: reproduction and pleasure
- Sexual activity is a common activity, contributing to the happiness of many people, worldwide

URGES
- All Nations to organize and secure some sexual education courses for all, before the age of 18
- All Nations to include in these courses, information about male sexuality, female sexuality, opposite-sex relationships, same-sex relationships, masturbation, birth control methods, abortion right, AIDS and sexually transmitted diseases without any value judgment
________________________________________________________________
Love and esterel
07-08-2005, 16:38
does it looks clearer that way?

___________________________________________________________________

The Sex Education Act

Category: Human Rights
Strength: Mild

The United Nations,

DEEPLY DISTURBED that in many Nations:
-A- Sexual education is lacking
-B- Education about female sexuality is often unheard of and no mention is made of the clitoris, the statistically most erogenous zone for women, which is not directly correlated with reproduction
-C- Abscence or improper sex eduction can lead, many times, to unplanned teen pregnancies and unnecessary abortion

OBSERVING that:
-D- Sex has 2 important functions: reproduction and pleasure
-E- Sexual activity is a common activity, contributing to the happiness of many people, worldwide

URGES
-1- All Nations to organize and secure some sexual education courses for all, before the age of 18
-2- All Nations to include in these courses, information about male sexuality, female sexuality, opposite-sex relationships, same-sex relationships, masturbation, birth control methods, abortion right, AIDS and sexually transmitted diseases without any value judgment
_________________________________________________________________
Forgottenlands
07-08-2005, 17:08
does it looks clearer that way?

___________________________________________________________________

The Sex Education Act

Category: Human Rights
Strength: Mild

The United Nations,

DEEPLY DISTURBED that in many Nations:
-A- Sexual education is lacking
-B- Education about female sexuality is often unheard of and no mention is made of the clitoris, the statistically most erogenous zone for women, which is not directly correlated with reproduction
-C- Abscence or improper sex eduction can lead, many times, to unplanned teen pregnancies and unnecessary abortion

OBSERVING that:
-D- Sex has 2 important functions: reproduction and pleasure
-E- Sexual activity is a common activity, contributing to the happiness of many people, worldwide


Revert back to old style


URGES
-1- All Nations to organize and secure some sexual education courses for all, before the age of 18
-2- All Nations to include in these courses, information about male sexuality, female sexuality, opposite-sex relationships, same-sex relationships, masturbation, birth control methods, abortion right, AIDS and sexually transmitted diseases without any value judgment
_________________________________________________________________

Keep
Werteswandel
07-08-2005, 17:24
I dunno. Is the UN perhaps spending just a little too much time on its members' genitals? So to speak...
Forgottenlands
07-08-2005, 17:27
Well....it is a much more....pleasant topic than, say, national defense :p
Mikitivity
07-08-2005, 18:22
Here is another way to do it:


DEEPLY DISTURBED that in many Nations:
- Sexual education is lacking,
- Education about female sexuality is often unheard of and no mention is made of the clitoris, the statistically most erogenous zone for women, which is not directly correlated with reproduction, or
- Lack of quality sex education can lead, many times, to unplanned teen pregnancies and unnecessary abortion;

OBSERVING that:
- Sex has two important functions: reproduction and pleasure, and
- Sexual activity is a common activity, contributing to the happiness of many people, worldwide;

URGES
-1- All Nations to organize and secure some sexual education courses for all, before the age of 18; and
-2- All Nations to include in these courses, information about male sexuality, female sexuality, opposite-sex relationships, same-sex relationships, masturbation, birth control methods, abortion right, AIDS and sexually transmitted diseases without any value judgment.


Basically there was two typos (they happen to the best of us): education and the absence, so I did a minor change on that preambulatory clause. The reason Forgottenlands was telling you to change the second half, but keep the first half the old way, is usually in outlines you don't mix number and letters. Though I know what you were doing: letters for justification, numbers for action. :) Ultimately it is your call.

I also changed "2" to "two", but left "18" the same. Grammatically it is 18-years, instead of 18-days or 18-months. You might want to change that too, but it didn't really bother me. "2" is OK, if it is 2-somethings, but when it is just talking about items in a sentence, I like to spell it out. Basically there is a rule that for numbers between zero and twenty, you should write them out, unless they are a measurement (i.e. that toddler is 6-months old). I think that is the rule, though I've seen many a tech writer break the rule too! :)
Love and esterel
07-08-2005, 21:57
thanks to Forgottenlands and Mikitivity
we think we wil prefer keep the (A, B ,C...) if it's not forbidden, it can be useful for future reference

we were also wondering if we can write the "NB" at the end,

here is the proposition "candidate release 5"
___________________________________________________________________
The Sex Education Act

Category: Human Rights
Strength: Mild

The United Nations,

DEEPLY DISTURBED that in many Nations:
-A- Sexual education is lacking
-B- Education about female sexuality is often unheard of and no mention is made of the clitoris, the statistically most erogenous zone for women, which is not directly correlated with reproduction
-C- Lack of quality sex education can lead, many times, to unplanned teen pregnancies and unnecessary abortion

OBSERVING that:
-D- Sex has two important functions: reproduction and pleasure
-E- Sexual activity is a common activity, contributing to the happiness of many people, worldwide

URGES:
-1- All Nations to organize and secure some sexual education courses for all, before the age of 18-years; and
-2- All Nations to include in these courses, information about male sexuality, female sexuality, opposite-sex relationships, same-sex relationships, masturbation, birth control methods, abortion right, AIDS and sexually transmitted diseases without any value judgment

NB: thanks to the nations of: Yeldan UN Mission, Thermidore, The Celestial Peace, Agnostic Deeishpeople, The Black New World, The Most Glorious Hack, Mikitivity, Forgottenlands for their help and advice
_________________________________________________________________
Mikitivity
07-08-2005, 22:18
we were also wondering if we can write the "NB" at the end,

NB: thanks to the nations of: Yeldan UN Mission, Thermidore, The Celestial Peace, Agnostic Deeishpeople, The Black New World, The Most Glorious Hack, Mikitivity, Forgottenlands for their help and advice
_________________________________________________________________

Actually you probably can't do that. Here is a quote from the UN rules:

Branding

Limited branding is allowed. "Limited" means that you may list one co-author by nation name only. Example:

"Co-authored by The Most Glorious Hack"

Further branding will result in the Proposal being deleted. Don't list everyone who posted in the thread for your draft, don't list yourself, don't list your Minister Of Making Proposals, and don't post the 'pre-title' of the co-author (ie: "The Republic Of...").

Though you didn't list us at co-authors, I think the point is to keep the list of nations being thanked out of resolution text.

Now, if you felt one of those nations is going to help you campaign for your proposal, then I'd save that one spot you have for a possible co-author.

You can thank the rest of us later if the proposal becomes a resolution here on the forums. And there is no reason why the NSWiki summary after the resolution debate can't include a small thank you. :) There will be plenty of time to worry about that later.
The Eternal Kawaii
07-08-2005, 22:26
I dunno. Is the UN perhaps spending just a little too much time on its members' genitals? So to speak...

[In an aside comment from the deputy UN nuncio to the delegate from Werteswandel as they make their way back from the podium]

"We've been saying this for weeks. You should see some of the feedback I've been getting from our country's Conclave of Friendship. Apparently the latest euphamism for sexual deviancy back home is 'to NSUN' someone."
Werteswandel
07-08-2005, 22:32
[In an aside comment from the deputy UN nuncio to the delegate from Werteswandel as they make their way back from the podium]

"We've been saying this for weeks. You should see some of the feedback I've been getting from our country's Conclave of Friendship. Apparently the latest euphamism for sexual deviancy back home is 'to NSUN' someone."
"Heh. You know it's gone a bit far when even debauched libertines (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/target=display_nation/nation=werteswandel) feel the need to speak out."
Love and esterel
07-08-2005, 22:43
ok, thanks, so i deleted the "nb"

so here is the final draft resolution:
___________________________________________________________________
The Sex Education Act

Category: Human Rights
Strength: Mild

The United Nations,

DEEPLY DISTURBED that in many Nations:
-A- Sexual education is lacking
-B- Education about female sexuality is often unheard of and no mention is made of the clitoris, the statistically most erogenous zone for women, which is not directly correlated with reproduction
-C- Lack of quality sex education can lead, many times, to unplanned teen pregnancies and unnecessary abortion

OBSERVING that:
-D- Sex has two important functions: reproduction and pleasure
-E- Sexual activity is a common activity, contributing to the happiness of many people, worldwide

URGES:
-1- All Nations to organize and secure some sexual education courses for all, before the age of 18-years; and
-2- All Nations to include in these courses, information about male sexuality, female sexuality, opposite-sex relationships, same-sex relationships, masturbation, birth control methods, abortion right, AIDS and sexually transmitted diseases without any value judgment
_________________________________________________________________
The Most Glorious Hack
07-08-2005, 22:44
Hmmm, do you have an actual count (perhaps for the Mod Olympics) of the number of proposals that are deleted by all the mods combined and another count of the number submitted?No possible way of knowing all the Proposals that have been submitted. We seem to average about 250 deleted Proposals a month, however.

we were also wondering if we can write the "NB" at the end,

NB: thanks to the nations of: Yeldan UN Mission, Thermidore, The Celestial Peace, Agnostic Deeishpeople, The Black New World, The Most Glorious Hack, Mikitivity, Forgottenlands for their help and adviceAfraid not. Only one co-author may be listed.
Love and esterel
07-08-2005, 23:20
"We've been saying this for weeks. You should see some of the feedback I've been getting from our country's Conclave of Friendship. Apparently the latest euphamism for sexual deviancy back home is 'to NSUN' someone."

we really appreciate this good joke

"Heh. You know it's gone a bit far when even debauched libertines (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/target=display_nation/nation=werteswandel) feel the need to speak out."

I feel that governments and specifically the people have the right to choose which type of sexual education is appropriate for their children.

please can your 3 nations let us know about which point(s) you think this proposition is going to far

maybe we can change something, to the better

thanks
The Most Serene Republic of Love and esterel
Zeldon 6229 Nodlez
07-08-2005, 23:55
-B- Education about female sexuality is often unheard of and no mention is made of the clitoris, the statistically most erogenous zone for women, which is not directly correlated with reproduction



YOU might get some arguments from those who believe that women should be barefooted, pregnant, and taking care of home, children, and their man. As this tends to focus it on females with too much detail.


As I must not say openly what might feel about it; thus would have to support it; or my five wives would divorce me and take me for all that I might have.. So I will when time comes be supporting it...
Love and esterel
08-08-2005, 12:53
The Most Serene Republic of Love and esterel is proud to announce we have submitted the "The Sex Education Act" to the UN

The Most Serene Republic of Love and esterel want to thanks the nations of: Yeldan UN Mission, Thermidore, The Celestial Peace, Agnostic Deeishpeople, The Black New World, The Most Glorious Hack, Mikitivity, Forgottenlands for their help and advice

The Most Serene Republic of Love and esterel encourages every UN Delegate to support this proposition by approving it, and every UN Nation to inform his UN Delegate about it

you can find this proposition here:
http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/07424/page=UN_proposal/start=28
Love and esterel
08-08-2005, 17:30
ok we have 18 approvals in few hours, this is encouraging but we need more

we have been sending some telegrams and we will go on

The Most Serene Republic of Love and esterel
Love and esterel
08-08-2005, 22:18
The Most Serene Republic of Love and esterel is happy to announce that now 50 UN Delagate have approved "The sex eduction Act"

We thanks all these Nations

the quest goes on....
Forgottenlands
08-08-2005, 23:36
To answer your question from the other thread:

There are a lot of people who don't log in more than once a day - so considering the numbers you got, I would say that's fairly good.

Personally, I prefer MS Word list when doing TG campaigns - but then again, mine was in opposition to a resolution, rather than trying to get one approved.

If you think you'll have time tomorrow, I'd say pause in your campaigning and see what happens overnight. Then use that to guage how all-out you need to go to complete your campaigning
Libertaville
08-08-2005, 23:40
The Republic of Libertaville whole heartedly puts it's support behind this proposal. In today's society, so many children and teenagers are put in uneccessary sexual situations because they are naive and do not have the proper education about sexual practices and their pro's and con's.

The Republic of Libertaville firmly believes that they only way to ensure that it's children are educated, and ready for any situation that may come forth, is to teach them about all situations.

Because sex is so Taboo to some teenagers and children, and because the youth of today does not understand every aspect of Sex properly, I believe that a bill or act of this degree is absoloutely neccessary to ensure that our worlds children are not naive.

Antonio Masticoverre
Love and esterel
08-08-2005, 23:43
Personally, I prefer MS Word list when doing TG campaigns




thanks
what do you mean by "MS Word list"?
Forgottenlands
08-08-2005, 23:44
....List in MS Word
Love and esterel
08-08-2005, 23:50
ok
Mozam
09-08-2005, 07:12
The Republic of Mozam puts their support behind your Sexual Education Act. The Republic of Mozam, and two other family nations, have just created a new region, and although we do not yet have entry into the UN, when I have been accepted, I will inform our delegate of your Act.

They too, should support it.
Love and esterel
09-08-2005, 13:02
The Most Serene Republic of Love and esterel want to thanks the 100 Nations who have already approved the "Sex education Act"

34 left......
Forgottenlands
09-08-2005, 14:22
The Most Serene Republic of Love and esterel want to thanks the 100 Nations who have already approved the "Sex education Act"

34 left......

And that is why I told you to take the night off :)
Love and esterel
09-08-2005, 14:38
And that is why I told you to take the night off :)

yes thanks, we have send few more TG, 740 TG in total (33% of the UN delegates) and we have stopped, it's so much boring, we will not submit a new proposition before long, because it's to fastidious to send TG

85% of UN delegates who approves the resolution did it after we have send them a TG
Yeldan UN Mission
09-08-2005, 17:45
I think you can take a break from your TG campaign because this should make quorum today! I am impressed. Good job.
Love and esterel
09-08-2005, 19:52
The Most Serene Republic of Love and esterel is very happy to announce that "The Sex Education Act" have reached the Quorum and then will be voted by entire UN


The Most Serene Republic of Love and esterel want to thanks the 135 UN delegate who approved it.

The Most Serene Republic of Love and esterel want also give a special thanks to all the nation who were so nice and helpfull on the UN forum, without them the proposition would have been incompleted, bad written and for sure would not have reached the quorum

The Most Serene Republic of Love and esterel is glad that the UN forum exist
Love and esterel
09-08-2005, 19:56
for stats information:

- we have send 800 TG to UN delegates (= 36% of UN delegates)

- around 90% of the delegate who approved the proposition did it after we have send them a TG

- we have receive only 1 TG (polite) asking us not to send UN related TG
- all of the TG we had received (FOR or AGAINST) were very polite
Libertaville
09-08-2005, 20:04
The Republic of Libertaville would like to congratulisi you for your sucess.

The Republic of Libertaville hopes, that when the Sex Education Act does reach the UN for international vote, all other countries will see it's value in ensuring that our youth are no longer naive.
Love and esterel
09-08-2005, 20:52
The Republic of Libertaville would like to congratulisi you for your sucess.

The Republic of Libertaville hopes, that when the Sex Education Act does reach the UN for international vote, all other countries will see it's value in ensuring that our youth are no longer naive.

we appreciate your support, thanks a lot