NationStates Jolt Archive


Endorce Gun Safety Act

Splurvia
04-08-2005, 03:19
Please read and endorce the gun safety to preserve all the freedom of humankind !
Yelda
04-08-2005, 06:27
<sigh> Oh don't bother posting the proposal text. Someone else is sure to come along and do it for you.
Gun Safety Act

A resolution to tighten or relax gun control laws.


Category: Gun Control


Decision: Relax


Proposed by: Splurvia

Description: To secure the rights and blessing of the ownership of any armed weapon that would extend and preserve peace in our world.

This measure will enable :

The right to any human to own and bear arms of any type freely in the world. Withotu any form of registration of the said weapon.

The right to fire, unload and discharge that same weapon at any point in their life to protect themself or any other human from harm or injury.

The UN will provide funding for each human to own one long barreled weapon of a .30 cal or larger and one hand gun of a caliber to not be less than 9MM.
Yelda
04-08-2005, 06:29
Why does this only apply to humans and since when is it the UN's job to arm our citizenry. Thats our job.
Splurvia
04-08-2005, 10:35
This is imperative to end the struggle of millions who yearn for peace and tranquill setting in their home and country.

The only way to assure peace is through strength ! Power to the individual will assure peace to the Nation.

Vote for Peace
Ecopoeia
04-08-2005, 11:35
I feel that the issue of civilian gun ownership is probably too complex to be done justice by any UN resolution. Cultural differences between nations lead to very different gun policies being required - a one-size-fits-all policy really won't work.

Mathieu Vergniaud
Deputy Speaker to the UN
North-Eastern Europa
04-08-2005, 12:56
i wholeheartedly agree
Enn
04-08-2005, 12:58
Any type of arms? What, so if I see someone walking down the street with an AK-47 or a bazooka, I can't do anything about it?
Ruins of Arkngthand
04-08-2005, 13:05
Give the citizenry guns? Weapons? This might be wholly hearty in such nations where crime is tolerated and met with minimal consequence, such as a short stay in the local 4 star county hotel jail. In other nations, where common sense prevails, crimes are met with swift and just decapitations, and as you may imagine, crime rates tend to fall quite quickly. Give the citizenry a gun and the next thing you will have is an armed rebellion against the state. Think twice before you give your peons a powderkeg which could end up at the doorstep of your palace.

-Repectfully yours, Prime Minister Rosencrantz, Foreign Relations Dept of RoA.
Telidia
04-08-2005, 13:17
The government of Telidia will regrettably not be able to offer our support in favour of this proposal. We see no need to relax our current policies with regard to gun ownership, particularly with regard to registration, which we feel is vital.

Respectfully
Lydia Cornwall, UN Ambassador
Office of UN Relations, Dept for Foreign Affairs
HM Government of Telidia
Waterana
04-08-2005, 13:34
This measure will enable :

The right to any human to own and bear arms of any type freely in the world. Withotu any form of registration of the said weapon.

The right to fire, unload and discharge that same weapon at any point in their life to protect themself or any other human from harm or injury.

The UN will provide funding for each human to own one long barreled weapon of a .30 cal or larger and one hand gun of a caliber to not be less than 9MM.

This proposal would arm every criminal, terrorist and malcontent with guns our government is expected to pay for and not regulate in any way?

Not only that but they are allowed to use it anytime they feel threatened?

I am also alarmed at the absence of an age restriction in this. Do we really want to see five year olds walking the streets with a government supplied gun in their hands?

Sorry but this proposal is one of the worst "give citizens guns" efforts I've seen and it gets no support from me.
Sevraco
04-08-2005, 15:58
Yelda

"Why does this only apply to humans and since when is it the UN's job to arm our citizenry."

Two things, First of wich is I believe humans are the only species on the planet Earth that can use a firearm "responsably". Second the UN dictates to everyone else on every other subject so why not this one?

Waterana

"This proposal would arm every criminal, terrorist and malcontent with guns" A old saying comes to mind. "When guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns"

The Republic of Sevraco believes in the right for all citizens to bear arms. However it is not the responsibility of the goverment to ensure citizens are issued a firearm.
Raub und Kratzen
04-08-2005, 17:11
I have a suggestion: Only the rich may own guns, and to the rich there are no restrictions to the caliber or type of gun they use to dispatch annoying impoverished people, but the poor can only be disposed of if they do not meet their industrial production quota. There, population control and motivation for poor, pathetic bums! Economic growth will rise significantly under this, I assure you all. It will also save the government money and reduce paperwork. Think of it as a private enterprise boost for the rich, whom are actually worth something.
Yeldan UN Mission
04-08-2005, 17:29
Two things, First of wich is I believe humans are the only species on the planet Earth that can use a firearm "responsably".On RL earth, that is true. But in NS there are races other than humans who might be offended by this.
Second the UN dictates to everyone else on every other subject so why not this one?
In Yelda, almost all adults are military reservists. They are issued weapons which they keep with them. Why would they need these UN issued weapons, which would probably be substandard and unreliable?
[NS]Beefypeanut
04-08-2005, 18:48
Just so you know, I approved your proposal. WE only have 3 approvals at the moment. I support this because I believe it is the responsability of every person to have a means to protect themselves. Sure, criminals will be armed, but would you rob a house if you knew that everyon inside was armed too? Also, just because guns are illegal does not mean that the bad guys will get them, they are planning to break the law anyways, so why not buy an illegal weapon off from an illegal arms dealer? The arms dealer just buys it in another country and brings it to the one where that type of gun is illegal.
LED scorched
04-08-2005, 19:53
Any type of arms? What, so if I see someone walking down the street with an AK-47 or a bazooka, I can't do anything about it?


*a matter for the state to deside, not the UN*
Waterana
04-08-2005, 21:38
Waterana

"This proposal would arm every criminal, terrorist and malcontent with guns" A old saying comes to mind. "When guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns"

The Republic of Sevraco believes in the right for all citizens to bear arms. However it is not the responsibility of the goverment to ensure citizens are issued a firearm.

No, you're quite right and I apologise for my mistake there :).

Our government is just going to have to pay for all of this. The UN isn't a bank and funding for all its programs comes from our governments, so not only do we have to stand back and allow the UN to arm anyone who wants a gun without any form of regulation/registration, but we will be paying for the privilage (and yes I'm being sarcastic).

I believe that the "arm everyone and crime will disappear" to be one of the silliest pro-gun arguements ever. No criminal is going to stop comitting crimes just because the victim may be armed. They will just go equiped themselves (which this proposal allows them to do) to protect themselves from the victim.
The RL US has the "right to bear arms". I guess that means there is no crime there?

Edited to add something I just thought of.

Scenario - A criminal gets his brand new UN special. At 3am the next morning he breaks into a home to rob it while the occupant is asleep while carrying his brand new gun. The home owner wakes up and grabbing his own UN special confronts the burgler. The burgler, seeing the gun and remembering he has the right "to protect themself or any other human from harm or injury" shoots the home owner through the head killing him. Under this propsal the state (us) can charge the burgler with break and enter but not murder because he was operating under the protection of this resolution when he killed.

So instead of reducing crime, I can see this increasing it because criminals will have the right to a own gun and the right to shoot anyone they consider a threat.
Zeldon 6229 Nodlez
05-08-2005, 14:02
Any type of arms? What, so if I see someone walking down the street with an AK-47 or a bazooka, I can't do anything about it?


What about us who are to lazy to carry an AK47 and walk down the street does this mean we can have a M1 tank and drive down it?... Also does this incude training in the use of any weapons we might get... As I feel that SAFETY comes from proper training in the use of such.. Anyone know where the breaks on an M1 are otherwise move over...
Raub und Kratzen
05-08-2005, 17:43
In a sense, tanks don't really have breaks. They control much like a large country-sized lawn mower with the two handles that go forwards and backwards.

But that's irrelevant. I was wondering if any one of you liked my suggestion on gun laws.
The Majin Ideal
05-08-2005, 18:51
This is very dangerous. To issue civillians could
a. increase the crime rate
b. provide weapons for terrorist cells and people who may wish to take up arms againt the government
I would not allow any of my citizens to own any form of gun. It only invites trouble. Arms should only be given to the miliatary and police.

Signed:

President Jason Curtis

Ruler of The Majin Ideal.