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I have started this thread in hopes of gaining support for my proposal which has the title stated above. I want at least 137 of you delegates out there to read my proposal seriously and to approve it for a resolution. I will be here often and open for questioning if you need anything clarified. Appprove my proposal and the economies around the world will thank you for it. :cool:

I am sure that your proposal is not without merit. There is evidence for the medical benefits of marajuana use. However, we must look out for the safety of our own citizens first. Fatus Maximus has recently annexed a small tropical island twenty miles southeast of our mainland. It is inhabited by a peaceful race of intelligent, sentient purple pygmy gorillas. They have proved to be model citizens, happily becoming part of our society, both as island residents and as immigrants to the mainland. However, as our criminal element found out the hard way, when exposed to cannabis, even second hand smoke from cannabis, they grow twelve feet tall, develop razor sharp claws and teeth, and charge around lusting for the blood of all around it while emitting blasts of heat vision from it's eyes. Acting in the best interest of our populace, we regret that we cannot support any proposal legalizing the drug within our borders, no matter how well written.

I approve.

I would approve to...barring that there be an age limit....say the same as drinking because it does inhibit your brain. Governments would make millions or billions off of taxing canibus. Not only that though, more people do it because it is illegal and most people really would do it anyways....so since people are doing it anyways we should go ahead and make it into law with restrictions. It would save money for police stations and would eliminate part of the anit-drug program...and it would make everyone alot more happy!!! :P :P :) :D

Right, why fill overcrowded prisons with people only for possession or usage of a drug that is the least active in deaths around the world. It ranks less than tobacco/nicotine and alcohol. You hear more about deaths from lung cancer from cigarettes or from drinking too much. How many celebrities and rockstars have died from marijuana? Plus more people would do this. :fluffle:
There is no restrictions on what restrictions that nations place. I'm just saying it should be allowed.

It is customary to post the proposal text.
Marijuana the Misunderstood

A resolution to ban, legalize, or encourage recreational drugs.


Category: Recreational Drug Use


Decision: Promote


Proposed by: Adrianopoli

Description: Noting the peaceful, sedating effects brought about by the usage of marijuana.

Seeing how countries with a lack of marijuana control laws have taken part in zero major wars.

Also noting that THC, in essence, is no more harmful for the body in large doses than tobacco products or alcoholic products.

Realizing the versatility of the crop in manufacturing and its additional economic boosts around the commercial industries.

Knowing the snack industries and lava lamp industries would get a substantial boost in sales.

Hereby states that nations should not only legalize marijuana but promote the usage of it as well.

1)Knowing that restrictions should be placed on when a person should drive after using marijuana or operate heavy machinery.

2)Not asking nations to look at this on moral or religious grounds, but on a pure economic standpoint, as this crop is good for so many other businesses, such as the fast food industry and the blacklight industry.

3)Clarifying that this is just for marijuana, not for other, deadlier drugs, such as cocaine or heroine.

4)Noting the psychological side effects could in fact be good for society.

Asking that the UN do not strike down this proposal with religious pretenses but only if they see some legal wording problem.

Also asserting that we cannot allow these religious pretenses to destroy what may be one of the greatest cash crops around.

Foreseeing the eventual drop in crime as people become more relaxed after using said drug and the overwhelming love that citizens would have for one another.

Concludes by saying that the world has been given a crop, that, by some groups, has been deemed "bad for society", but we must take advantage of the huge sociological and economic possibilities in store for this crop.

Heroin is heroin, not heroine. Otherwise pretty good.

Bear in mind that no resolution has yet been passed regarding drugs, in the history of the UN. Be the first, go on ;)

How many celebrities and rockstars have died from marijuana?


You might also ask here and maybe it has... already.... How many rockstars have died from OD of some other harder drug than MJ that moved to that other from MJ..? If I'm not mistaken people often move from MJ to the harder drugs because MJ no longer givens them what they wanted from it at some point. Thus they look for the next high... Thus do we make them legal to and make a buck off them also..... If you do control use in anyway or overprice it there will always be some form of illegal activity around it to get it cheaper or just to get it to those who may not be able to get it. Even the current conflict over regular smokes and where one can or can not smoke presents legal problems.. As have seen where smokers get violent cause somebody tells them to take it outside then when smokers refuse the other person gets violent thus what is gained... MJ may be a drug that mellows folks out but even mellow people get violent.. and cause trouble...

Also to assume that MJ use is the reason certain nations have never gone to war... better check with those nations to see if that one is true.

First off, marijuana is not a "transitional" drug as most conservatives will claim. This is a semi-myth based on a minority of frequent marijuana users who end up on harder drugs. Marijuana as a drug cannot lose its edge unless the user thinks it has lost its edge. Most users are college and high school kids who want to "be cool" and be mellow. If the price is reasonable in each nation then there will be no form of illegal activity to be had in cheapening marijuana.

People who transition off of marijuana have a mental disorder associated with it where they feel the need to get higher and higher then they could possibly ever need to and then they overdose.

I can assure, in at least one case, a nation that has never been in major wars due to the rampant usage of marijuana.

My act does not provide for the restrictions which leaves it up to the nations to decide how far to push those restrictions. If a nation messes up with these then it is simply their own fault. Sounds harsh, but it is true.

Finally, yes, mellow people have been known to cause trouble, but no where near as much trouble as people in other states have caused.

People who transition off of marijuana have a mental disorder associated with it where they feel the need to get higher and higher then they could possibly ever need to and then they overdose.


So you are saying that there are people who should never use MJ because they have some mental disorder and the use of MJ may bring them to move on to a higher drug usage. How do we protect them from using it if we can't restrict it.. Here you have posed another problem with making it legal these medical related problems. Why do we need another one that will promote some mental problem in people. Also is there some way to test all people to be sure before they use MJ that they do not have this mental disorder and once on MJ move on to other drugs. Or are you saying that MJ is the cause of this mental disorder and if so then why do we need it?.. We have enough crazy people already in this world without more from MJ usage.

My cousin asked me to sit in on this debate and see what I thought of it. From what I see the proposer is trying to have his cake and eat it to. Due to the nature of the substance which has it's bad side he doesn't want it but wants others to have it. For sake of game feel you have to take one side or none at all can't run the middle of the road here. Or you get hit by a dude high on this stuff driving a bus. You from what I sense can't say that profits will outway the loses here with this new free crop that has a demanding market. Thus until you find your side on this how can you ask others to follow you and make it legal when you even say it bad in the proposal... Meaning do you want more drivers on roads can't operate properly than already might have with other legal substances.. Do you want more folks to get lung cancer and thus health care cost rise.. as with most things if the demand goes up somebody will want to raise prices and make another coin on it.

My cousin was right this one should not be endorsed... and I will let him know I agree with him...GW

I would approve of marijuana being allowed to be used for medical reasons. For recreational use, I would not approve. Drinking is one thing, Marijuana is another.

Signed:

President Jason Curtis

Ruler of The Majin Ideal.

How much difference is there if someone is drunk behind a bus or if someone is high behind a bus? The bus still ran you over. Secondly, I, in no way, said marijuana was bad. You have severly misinterpreted what I have said. There would be a slight increase in health care and driving for the short while that it is a novelty to smoke but after that initial period you would see a downtrend in these forms of accidents. THE LONG TERM savings would be in the law enforcement and prison booking, a condition which affects all nations, and the boosts in the snack food, lava lamp, blacklight, and fast food industries, as well as all convenience stores and mini-marts. That was to the comments made by Garnilorn.

Moving on, as to what you have said, that mental disorder of what I spoke is the same one that affects all alcoholics who transition from beer to whiskey to full-on moonshine in a matter or weeks. These people are a small minority and though they have been celebrities at points does not mean the population who can smoke it and not want to go higher should be affected.

The legal drugs already out there already affect these people and those who go to illegal sources are the ones who end up with bad products which kill them. They'll end up dead whether or not this product is legalized because frankly the police will never be able to stop all sources of drugs.

Finally, marijuana is no different from alcohol, if you look at the side effects, it's even slightly better. It has fallen to a prohibition which has been made by people out of ignorance.

Brief synopsis of alcohol vs. marijuana
Symptoms of alcohol: blurred vision, slurred speech, moodiness, inability to judge, violent tendencies
Long-term effects: Cirrohsis, jaundice, death

Symptoms of marijuana: munchies, mellow tendencies, uncontrollable laughter, fascination with random objects, words, etc.
Long term effects: Basically same as nicotine/tobacco products currently out there

Finally, for you delegates who have already approved, go find some delegates and get them to approve, only in this manner can we get the word out. Marijuana the Misunderstood.

I see this as having a person who can't shot themselves with a gun in the left hand so we give them one to use in their right hand hoping with that hand they get it right. Here we now have two guns out there instead of one, that could just as well be turned on those who don't won't guns period due to the dangers of them. Keep at least one beast in it's cage and work to get the other in there also.. Don't let them both out.

Marijuana leads to people possibly trying harder, more dangerous drugs (heroin, crack etc), hence why I am opposed to this.

UNITED NATIONS RESOLUTION #85
Support Hemp Production
A resolution to increase the quality of the world's environment, at the expense of industry.
Category: Environmental
Industry Affected: All Businesses
Proposed by: The Avenging Angels
Description: BELIEVING that all nations should support the production and use of industrial hemp. Hemp needs to be recognized as a profitable and environmentally friendly crop.


As the plant is already by above legal to grow for the reasons in the above resolution then I suggest that we leave it up to individual nations if they want to use the plant to smoke or wipe their tails with. It would allow each nation to choose without the UN demanding they do something.. As they aready have to grow the plant if somebody wants to do it.

Since my proposal is pretty much dead now, this final reply will be for pride's sake until I rewrite the proposal and get more p.r. out there. First off, Majin Ideal, I already went over the semi-myth surrounding marijuana as a "transitional" drug. This is only true if the person smoking it has a disorder, the same disorder that makes these people alcoholics and/or cigarette junkies as well.

Secondly, seeing marijuana as a gun is a huge overstep. The vast majority of people, given the right to smoke marijuana, will either smoke it casually, much like a tobacco product or an alcoholic product, which causes no harm, or will simply not smoke it altogether. You seem to forget I am not forcing people to smoke it, I am merely saying for those that do it already that they no longer need to hide in the shadows and smoke stuff given by dealers that could potentially kill them.

I am merely saying for those that do it already that they no longer need to hide in the shadows and smoke stuff given by dealers that could potentially kill them.


Remember this one in a new proposal play on it some way.. Get them out of closet so to say so we can help them instead of driving them into closet... This idea would for me be a hooker on the issue... As find it one that makes legal abortion okay since it would avoid the so called back room abortions... thus here it for me would be hooker on issue.

Also as you more less said once it no longer against the rules many will not want it but will go looking for something else. Good luck on your future efforts in this world...