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SUBMITTED: "The Microcredit Bazaar"

Powerhungry Chipmunks
02-08-2005, 14:42
I have submitted The Microcredit Bazaar. There have been a few minor changes from the last edition (located in the previosu discussion thread, here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=430096)), in order for the proposal to fit under Free Trade, mild.

Please approve this proposal and help further microcredit throughout the UN.



The proposal can be here(page 5): http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=UN_proposal1/match=the%20microcredit%20bazaar


The United Nations,

REAFFIRMING the United Nations’ stance against poverty and suffering,

TAKING NOTE, via the impoverished throughout the world, of the cyclical nature of poverty across generations, and of the detrimental effect of poverty among a people to the surrounding peoples, nations, etc.,

OBSERVING previous success of so called “microcredit” at enhancing the lives of people or peoples currently trapped by deprivation, as well as the society surrounding them and future generations among them,

DETERMINING that citizens in UN nations, who have the ability to participate in “microcredit” but do not, might trade more regularly and freely via “microcredit” (which the UN believes to have greater effect than many forms of humanitarian aid) if they had information regarding “microcredit” and assurance of its financial security and honesty,

DETERMINING FURTHER that the distribution of such information would help free the trade of microcredit and make it more economically feasible for microcredit transactions to occur:

1.DEFINES “microcredit” as a financial transaction, or the trade of loans for relatively small sums of money for the purpose of sustaining life and employment, the repayment of which is supported by local communities alongside the individual(s) who received the loan;

2.ESTABLISHES “The Microcredit Bazaar”, which will set up chapters in all interested member nations for the purpose of educating citizens in said member nations on microcredit and of securing, presenting, and overseeing reputable organizations by which those citizens can trade microcredit with the impoverished;

3.CHARGES “The Microcredit Bazaar” with verifying reputable microcredit organizations, managing queries for a 'Bazaar' chapter, ensuring just and honest distribution of loaned money, ensuring repayment of loans, ensuring the reimbursement of unpaid loans, facilitating educational literature concerning microcredit to member nations, as well as the distribution of that literature as arranged with individual national governments;

4.EMPOWERS “The Microcredit Bazaar” with the authority to negotiate with national governments the location, length of stay, and extensiveness in presentation of 'Bazaar' chapters within member nations;

5.ENCOURAGES UN citizens everywhere to invest in the impoverished through microcredit, and, specifically, to attend local 'Bazaar' chapters;

6.EXPRESSES its utmost gratitude to any who contribute to the abolition of poverty, be it through microcredit, at one of “The Microcredit Bazaar” chapters, or otherwise.


Thank your for your time,

Powerhungry Chipmunks
Ausserland
02-08-2005, 17:44
As far as we can tell, this appears to be a fine proposal -- one which certainly deserves to be brought to a vote. We congratulate the proposer on the obvious thoughtful effort put into it.

At present, we could not commit to voting for the proposal. Ausserland has very little (no?) expertise in economics. We reserve judgment until we have listened carefully to the debate on the proposal and learned from it.

For those who may be as ignorant of economics as we are (i.e., totally clueless about microcredit), we recommend the short article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microcredit) on the subject at Wikipedia. We found it very informative.

Hurlbot Barfanger
Ambassador to the United Nations
Yeldan UN Mission
02-08-2005, 18:20
As far as we can tell, this appears to be a fine proposal -- one which certainly deserves to be brought to a vote. We congratulate the proposer on the obvious thoughtful effort put into it.

At present, we could not commit to voting for the proposal. Ausserland has very little (no?) expertise in economics. We reserve judgment until we have listened carefully to the debate on the proposal and learned from it.

For those who may be as ignorant of economics as we are (i.e., totally clueless about microcredit), we recommend the short article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microcredit) on the subject at Wikipedia. We found it very informative.

Hurlbot Barfanger
Ambassador to the United Nations

Yes, that is a good article and would be a good starting point for research into this subject, as it includes links. In fact, by googling the term "microcredit" one can find numerous articles regarding what it is and how it works. We support this by the way, and have approved the proposal.
Ecopoeia
03-08-2005, 00:23
Unless members of my region instruct us otherwise, Ecopoeia will approve this proposal.

Mathieu Vergniaud
Deputy Speaker to the UN
New Hamilton
03-08-2005, 00:30
So a system set up where the poor can borrow small amounts of money for life needs and their community repays (as do the individual) the lenders.


Interesting concept. Short-term emergency loans.


I like it a lot.
Powerhungry Chipmunks
03-08-2005, 02:34
So a system set up where the poor can borrow small amounts of money for life needs and their community repays (as do the individual) the lenders.


Interesting concept. Short-term emergency loans.


I like it a lot.
Thanks :)

I took pains to make certain that the system set up by the Microcredit Bazaar is unobtrusive, too. Only member nations that *want* a Microcredit chapter in their nation will receive one, and only under the length extensiveness and other specifications agreed upon by that nation. The Microcredit Bazaar also does not force anyone to invest money. Bazaar chapters merely help explain and provide options, means, and know-how of investing in microcredit for citizens of UN nations. This is largely why I submitted the proposal under Free Trade: freeing up trade, through microcredit, from the duties of ignorance.

The literature mentioned in the proposal is also distributed in co-operation with the member government, meaning it can be as public or as closeted as the nation decides (and though we would be dismayed if nations kept literature secret, we feel it is the nations' decision).



My sincerest gratitude to the 29 delegates who have approved the proposal. Thank you :)
Powerhungry Chipmunks
03-08-2005, 14:47
I've updated the link at the first post in the thread.

Also, again, many, many thanks to those 50 delegates who have now approved the proposal. I'm really hoping for it to make quorum on this go around. Thanks
Ecopoeia
03-08-2005, 14:49
Try this as a permanent link:

http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=UN_proposal1/match=the%20microcredit%20bazaar
Ecopoeia
03-08-2005, 17:27
Holy cow, that's great! I'll put it in at once!

Thanks!
Isn't it just? I noticed Hirota using it for their Cooperation against Terrorism proposal and fiddled around with the link until it worked for mine. And, now, for yours.

The alternative is to get delegates to search using a word from the title, so long as it isn't already in use for a proposal submitted earlier (eg, I couldn't use 'freedom' to seach for mine until after two days, thanks to a repeal of 'Sexual Freedom'). 'Microcredit' or 'bazaar' should be pretty safe for you.

EDIT: why has my reply been posted before yours? Veeeery confusing!
Powerhungry Chipmunks
03-08-2005, 17:29
Try this as a permanent link:

http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=UN_proposal1/match=the%20microcredit%20bazaar
Holy cow, that's great! I'll put it in at once!

Thanks!
Powerhungry Chipmunks
04-08-2005, 00:45
EDIT: why has my reply been posted before yours? Veeeery confusing!
I don't know what's going on exactly. I've actually seen this happening a few other places on the forums.

Maybe the masses of NS players on the forums have finally killed the Jolt servers' will to stay afloat, and this is a signal to abandon ship.

*zips up life jacket*
New Hamilton
04-08-2005, 05:08
Thanks :)

I took pains to make certain that the system set up by the Microcredit Bazaar is unobtrusive, too. Only member nations that *want* a Microcredit chapter in their nation will receive one, and only under the length extensiveness and other specifications agreed upon by that nation. The Microcredit Bazaar also does not force anyone to invest money. Bazaar chapters merely help explain and provide options, means, and know-how of investing in microcredit for citizens of UN nations. This is largely why I submitted the proposal under Free Trade: freeing up trade, through microcredit, from the duties of ignorance.

The literature mentioned in the proposal is also distributed in co-operation with the member government, meaning it can be as public or as closeted as the nation decides (and though we would be dismayed if nations kept literature secret, we feel it is the nations' decision).



My sincerest gratitude to the 29 delegates who have approved the proposal. Thank you :)

I really like it, market-based Individual emergency funds.


Instead of dishing it out to the Nations government, you privatized it and individualized it.

That's that happy medium everyone talks about.
Powerhungry Chipmunks
04-08-2005, 19:35
More thanks are in order: to the 97 delegates who have so graciously approved my proposal, Thanks a million!
LED scorched
04-08-2005, 19:42
I likey...

lets get this thing up for a vote soon
Powerhungry Chipmunks
05-08-2005, 01:55
103, now. Not a vast increase, but I still appreciate every bit.

Oh, and bump.
Powerhungry Chipmunks
05-08-2005, 14:01
111! Woot! I'm gonna make a final telegram push for a few more approvals.

Let's hope it makes it

*crosses fingers*
Marxist Rhetoric
05-08-2005, 14:09
IC: I originally came here merely for the current UN debate but I had read your proposal on the floor and I quite like it. The Federal Apparat has already asked our Regional Delegate to support your resolution and they have.

This can help provide a boom to developing countries and developed countries with a wide poor-rich gap. It is like foreign investment, simply on a small scale. I believe microcredit will work and it has in Bangladesh, now an Asian Tiger.
Powerhungry Chipmunks
05-08-2005, 16:35
Still 25 more go! Please contact your delegate about it, if you haven't already done so.

Please approve this proposal.
New Hamilton
06-08-2005, 01:22
IC: I originally came here merely for the current UN debate but I had read your proposal on the floor and I quite like it. The Federal Apparat has already asked our Regional Delegate to support your resolution and they have.

This can help provide a boom to developing countries and developed countries with a wide poor-rich gap. It is like foreign investment, simply on a small scale. I believe microcredit will work and it has in Bangladesh, now an Asian Tiger.

Agreed. I've been perplexed to find a market base solution for income gap issues.

My nations biggest problem is taxes. It's crippling my economies growth and I can't support anything that would add to that.

So this is a great solution for my nation.
Ausserland
06-08-2005, 03:04
We congratulate the distinguished delegate from Powerhungry Chipmunks on the approval of this proposal and its addition to the queue. We look forward to learning from the debate.

Hurlbot Barfanger
Ambassador to the United Nations
Powerhungry Chipmunks
06-08-2005, 11:55
We congratulate the distinguished delegate from Powerhungry Chipmunks on the approval of this proposal and its addition to the queue. We look forward to learning from the debate.

Hurlbot Barfanger
Ambassador to the United Nations
Thanks! Again, and I owe it all to them, so there're never too many thanks to give them, I sincerely thank all those delegates who approved the proposal.

Thank you!

Now, I just need to pass this sucker.
Texan Hotrodders
06-08-2005, 11:57
Thanks! Again, and I owe it all to them, so there're never too many thanks to give them, I sincerely thank all those delegates who approved the proposal.

Thank you!

Now, I just need to pass this sucker.

Good luck, PC. You may want to see if you can convince Gatesville to vote for it. That's a lot of votes you could earn.
Powerhungry Chipmunks
06-08-2005, 12:05
Good luck, PC. You may want to see if you can convince Gatesville to vote for it. That's a lot of votes you could earn.
Ooh, good catch. I'd better start trying to convinmce them now.
Mikitivity
07-08-2005, 03:52
Thanks! Again, and I owe it all to them, so there're never too many thanks to give them, I sincerely thank all those delegates who approved the proposal.

Thank you!

Now, I just need to pass this sucker.

Tuesday morning the floor should be yours! :)

If you plan to start a new thread for just the resolution debate, I could really make good use out of a poll "yes, no, abstain" attached to the front end of the new thread.
Powerhungry Chipmunks
07-08-2005, 07:39
Tuesday morning the floor should be yours! :)

If you plan to start a new thread for just the resolution debate, I could really make good use out of a poll "yes, no, abstain" attached to the front end of the new thread.
Sure thing, I can surely provide those numbers. With luck, I'll start the poll Sunday night, or Monday morning (so I don't have to bump it up for too long before the discussion actually begins in earnest), and I'll make certain to add a link to this one.

Do you think I should make it a public poll?
Mikitivity
07-08-2005, 09:04
Sure thing, I can surely provide those numbers. With luck, I'll start the poll Sunday night, or Monday morning (so I don't have to bump it up for too long before the discussion actually begins in earnest), and I'll make certain to add a link to this one.

Do you think I should make it a public poll?

Your proposal shouldn't hit the floor until Tuesday early a.m., but it can't hurt to do it Sunday night. :)

I made mine public so I can hunt for puppets in a few weeks.

Here are the questions I plan to mine the polls for:

Is the distribution of opinions in a UN forum debate representative of the distribution of votes for a UN resolution?

What percentage of those that participate in a UN forum debate are UN members?

What percentage of those that participate in a UN forum debate are still around 2 months later?

Given that only 100 to 200 nations will be likely to reply to the poll, it is realistic (though lots of work) to go back and check these things, but the poll will have to be public. Public polls also allow you to change votes in case of accidents: for example, one of the "yes" votes in my resolutions poll said that they meant to vote no. I'll probably just subtract one yes and add one no, if I can find that nation in the yes column.