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UN 'Galactic Senate' building Proposal

The Descendent of Dave
23-06-2005, 21:51
The UN 'Galactic Senate' building proposal goes as follows

I believe that in order for the UN to further fulfil its Role of ‘making the world a better place one resolution at a Time’ it requires an appropriate image to present to the world in order to encourage more nations to join the organisation. I believe that this image can only be achieved with an impressive building to match the vital role that the UN plays in the nation state role.

What I am proposing is that the UN undertakes a program to construct a Head Quarters building complete with debating chamber in the stile of the Galactic Senate building shown in the George Lucas’s Star Wars film series.

If accepted this would be an achievement that our children’s children could look upon as a bastion of Democracy and a symbol of World peace.

I feel now is the time for the Nation States UN to undertake a stand for what its members believe in and demonstrate there faith in the UN abilities by allocating a small amount of funds to a project that shows were not ashamed of Democracy by laying foundations of stone to match the diplomatic foundations laid down in its resolutions.


I know this action would work to Further Democracy in the World Today and for years to come.



plese suport the proposal so that the UN my have a Home. Granted only on paper and in our minds but what a cool Home it would be can you think of a better one?
Texan Hotrodders
23-06-2005, 21:58
plese suport the proposal so that the UN my have a Home. Granted only on paper and in our minds but what a cool Home it would be can you think of a better one?

Well now that you mention it, I would prefer something more imposing done in the Gothic style. :D
DemonLordEnigma
23-06-2005, 22:18
The UN 'Galactic Senate' building proposal goes as follows

Should be interesting.

I believe that in order for the UN to further fulfil its Role of ‘making the world a better place one resolution at a Time’ it requires an appropriate image to present to the world in order to encourage more nations to join the organisation. I believe that this image can only be achieved with an impressive building to match the vital role that the UN plays in the nation state role.

A loose confederation of people who don't even get along with each other (let alone the rest of the world) that is outnumbered, ouytgunned, and the most hated? I suggest something reminiscent of Dante's Hell.

What I am proposing is that the UN undertakes a program to construct a Head Quarters building complete with debating chamber in the stile of the Galactic Senate building shown in the George Lucas’s Star Wars film series.

Uh, we already have a building. And the one you are proposing immediately makes your proposal illegal, due to a real-world item.

If accepted this would be an achievement that our children’s children could look upon as a bastion of Democracy and a symbol of World peace.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Haven't been in the UN long, eh?

I feel now is the time for the Nation States UN to undertake a stand for what its members believe in and demonstrate there faith in the UN abilities by allocating a small amount of funds to a project that shows were not ashamed of Democracy by laying foundations of stone to match the diplomatic foundations laid down in its resolutions.

The diplomacy of our resolutions is "You obey or you pay." I don't think that's the message I want to send to future generations.

I know this action would work to Further Democracy in the World Today and for years to come.

Sure. As soon as the UN starts doing so.

plese suport the proposal so that the UN my have a Home. Granted only on paper and in our minds but what a cool Home it would be can you think of a better one?

The UN already has a home. And we like it.
The Descendent of Dave
23-06-2005, 22:41
Uh, we already have a building. And the one you are proposing immediately makes your proposal illegal, due to a real-world item.

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the real world UN has a building, the NS one does not, this proposal has no intention of changing the real world only the nation state one, unless i found out that Bill Gates was my farther a real building woud be unafordable in any case :rolleyes:




The diplomacy of our resolutions is "You obey or you pay." I don't think that's the message I want to send to future generations.



Sure. As soon as the UN starts doing so.
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if you think so negativly then the battles allready lost and things will never get any better , This proposal could mark a hope of change for the better.


The UN already has a home. And we like it.

asuming that the nation States UN and the real one did have the same building, its not a very pritty one there just not very good at desnighning buildings nowadays

In the same way that NS UN cant declare war like the real one i see no reason why this too cant also be a diffrence, other than a phycoligal way to the members this proposal would have no adverse effects upon further desisghions or 'game play' as a genuin real world situation change would have
Enn
23-06-2005, 22:59
Ah. This type of proposal can be looked at quite differently from both IC and OOC viewpoints.

OOC: I'm pretty sure this is illegal, due to the Star Wars reference. PLus, I'm not sure that the mods would accept it as a legitimate proposal.

IC: But we already have a building! Can't you see it around you? Where do you think the Strangers' Bar is, or why we have so many squabbles over office space?
The Descendent of Dave
23-06-2005, 23:14
as far as Star wars refrences i apolgise for the bad Punns in my post


as far as the idear its self i was only using a star wars refrence as a way of showing what the new builing would be like, after all how elce is an arcitect supost to describe the plans for his greatest creation.

as far as the builing we are in now emagin how much better the new one would be emgin it for a second. emgen your new ofice , no longer crampt, no longer would you have that crumberling plastor, a new building for a new age

just think, endorce my proposal and just think where your mind could take you a building fit for goverment.

so in summery not iligal; only using star wars refrecne as a discrition tool because its impossible to post what the plans would look like
Cybertoria
23-06-2005, 23:26
as far as Star wars refrences i apolgise for the bad Punns in my post


as far as the idear its self i was only using a star wars refrence as a way of showing what the new builing would be like, after all how elce is an arcitect supost to describe the plans for his greatest creation.

as far as the builing we are in now emagin how much better the new one would be emgin it for a second. emgen your new ofice , no longer crampt, no longer would you have that crumberling plastor, a new building for a new age

just think, endorce my proposal and just think where your mind could take you a building fit for goverment.

so in summery not iligal; only using star wars refrecne as a discrition tool because its impossible to post what the plans would look like

When you put it that way Im all for your proposal then.
Forgottenlands
23-06-2005, 23:39
Descendant of Dave: I have not heard of this George Lucas you speak of. Is he a major film maker in your region. There's a rumor coming from a few of the geek channels in my region of a "Star Wars" series, but I don't know many details about it.

Perhaps you can send the various leaders of the regions around the world a copy of one of the Star Wars movies so that we may see what building you are refering too. I hear that recently, a third movie was released - seeing as that would be the most recent version, perhaps distributing that to all member nations would allow us to have a better concept of your proposal - assuming the building is shown in that movie

OOC - reminder to self: go see it this weekend! NS can survive for 3 hrs without you!
DemonLordEnigma
24-06-2005, 00:47
the real world UN has a building, the NS one does not, this proposal has no intention of changing the real world only the nation state one, unless i found out that Bill Gates was my farther a real building woud be unafordable in any case :rolleyes:

Actually, the NSUN also has a building. It's currently hosted by one of the mods (Hack, I think), who in turn provides the building. Finally, you really might want to read the FAQ. Real-world references are banned from proposals, and the words "Lucas' Star Wars" is a real-world reference.

if you think so negativly then the battles allready lost and things will never get any better , This proposal could mark a hope of change for the better.

No, all this proposal does is break the rules and try to establish something that already exists. It helps if you bother to ask around and see what is going on.

As for my cynicism: I'm been a member of the UN three times so far. The UN is far from living up to its name.

asuming that the nation States UN and the real one did have the same building, its not a very pritty one there just not very good at desnighning buildings nowadays

Actually, they don't. For one thing, the real-world UN building can still add on floors without worrying about satellites crashing into the building. Let's just say we've made a few billion modifications to it over the years.

In the same way that NS UN cant declare war like the real one i see no reason why this too cant also be a diffrence, other than a phycoligal way to the members this proposal would have no adverse effects upon further desisghions or 'game play' as a genuin real world situation change would have

Actually, the UN can, in a form, declare war, simply by giving permission to its members to go to war. However, in this case, you are dealing with something that has been an element of the UN since before I came around.
DemonLordEnigma
24-06-2005, 00:52
as far as the builing we are in now emagin how much better the new one would be emgin it for a second. emgen your new ofice , no longer crampt, no longer would you have that crumberling plastor, a new building for a new age

We have a building that is tall enough it helps slow down Earth's orbit, and the amount of sub-basements remain undocumented due to the dangerous mutants and radiation levels in many of them. And yet we still have space problems.

just think, endorce my proposal and just think where your mind could take you a building fit for goverment.

The building you are talking about would require a ground floor the size of Japan. It'd be interesting to see actual plans for it.

so in summery not iligal; only using star wars refrecne as a discrition tool because its impossible to post what the plans would look like

Real life references remain illegal, no matter the reason.
Flibbleites
24-06-2005, 06:30
so in summery not iligal; only using star wars refrecne as a discrition tool because its impossible to post what the plans would look like
To put it another way, matter not your reason, illegal still, your proposal is.:D
The Most Glorious Hack
24-06-2005, 07:10
Real world references are illegal, regardless of why they're used. That's why I called them a "bright line violation" in the UN Proposal Rules (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=420465).

That's also why I deleted your Proposal.
Darkumbria
24-06-2005, 13:29
Oh, finally something fun we can all get behind. I like the ideas put forth by TH and DLE. I think, in order to make everyone happy, we should do the following: A gothic style building, painted in flames for Dante's Hell, with some coll floating platforms for the delegates to use.
Super-power
24-06-2005, 15:13
You want a building for your 'Galactic Senate?' I can't wait to see the equivalent of a Palpatine turn your precious Senate into a dictatorship
Flibbleites
24-06-2005, 15:58
Oh, finally something fun we can all get behind. I like the ideas put forth by TH and DLE. I think, in order to make everyone happy, we should do the following: A gothic style building, painted in flames for Dante's Hell, with some coll floating platforms for the delegates to use.
And over every door the words, "Abandon hope all ye how enter here."
The Descendent of Dave
24-06-2005, 21:01
Never mind , fair play to the Mods

so what would happen if i re did the proposal describiong what the bilding could be like?

on anouther point a what time does a real thing become too real for exaple we have propsals about Anthrax. shouldent that read 'biological wepon agent'

also did the Ban crazy frog propsal get deleted?
Flibbleites
24-06-2005, 23:03
so what would happen if i re did the proposal describiong what the bilding could be like? It would probably be deleted as not being worth the UN's time, not that it's needed we tend to determine what the building's like here on the forum anyway.

on anouther point a what time does a real thing become too real for exaple we have propsals about Anthrax. shouldent that read 'biological wepon agent'I wouldn't be suprised if there are nations on NS that are using anthrax so it wouldn't be considered a RL reference.

also did the Ban crazy frog propsal get deleted?I would assume that it was deleted due to the RL reference.
The Descendent of Dave
25-06-2005, 00:21
to be fair if we are going on what NS nations have , you would be suprised how many nations have Kingons, jedi , Space mareans ect

conceequently does it matter if Nations have Anthrax as to whether it is counted as a real world name after all there are so meny nations on NS im guessing theres little in the real world that hasent been mentionded by at least one Nation State acount
Forgottenlands
25-06-2005, 00:29
You took a real life reference which could be argued to have been used by SOME nations but should not be considered general knowledge (as it is a specific movie - have you watched all the movies from Bollywood? Have you even heard all of their titles? Continue the argument)

On the other hand, Anthrax, as a naturally occuring microbe, is more a reality than a RL vs NS thing. Its application as a biological weapon would be a logical jump since there are so many scientific minds with the full power of Scientific Freedom out there. Its existance is a matter of national security for the leaders so they probably have at least SOMEONE that reports to them (maybe through about 5 others - we could, after all, be talking about some Intel officer who's in sub-basement 72 of the nation's Intel complex) about Anthrax. Star Wars....not quite as important for the President needing to know.
The Most Glorious Hack
25-06-2005, 02:30
I would assume that it was deleted due to the RL reference.

And being bloody stupid and unworthy of the UN's time. It seems to be a popular Proposal these days...