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Why doesn't someone pass a free food proposal? This could encourage nations to join the UN. If we get more nations in the UN it would give us more ideas for things to pass. I currently do not have enough people in my region to get any endorsements, so I will have to leave this up to someone else. Oh yeah and anyone tired of their region can move to mine (Valoricaan) and become delegate because currently we do not have one. Any questions send me a telegram.

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Why doesn't someone pass a free food proposal? This could encourage nations to join the UN. If we get more nations in the UN it would give us more ideas for things to pass. I currently do not have enough people in my region to get any endorsements, so I will have to leave this up to someone else. Oh yeah and anyone tired of their region can move to mine (Valoricaan) and become delegate because currently we do not have one. Any questions send me a telegram.

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Well, feeding the hungry is UN worthy, what with IRCO and all... how about a "free cheese" proposal?

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Category: Social Justice


Strength: Strong


Proposed by: Yelda

Description: The General Assembly of the United Nations,

RECOGNIZING the unequaled nutritional value of Cheese and other Dairy related products.

NOTING the responsibility of nations to provide adequate food supplies for their citizenry.

AFFIRMING the UN's role as guarantor of nutritional well being.

1. ENCOURAGES the sale or transfer of Cheese, Dairy, and Dairy related products and the free distribution of said products to those unable to purchase them at fair market value.

2. DISCOURAGES STRONGLY the sale or transfer of "imitation" Dairy products.

3. CAUTIONS AGAINST research into the production of "imitation" Dairy products.

4. CALLS UPON UN member nations to advance research into new and improved methods of Dairy production.

You can't make a Strong proposal about cheese without mentioning Limberger.


You just can't.

You can't make a Strong proposal about cheese without mentioning Limberger.
Heh, yeah I should have mentioned one of the more pungent varieties. I only have one endorsement so I can't submit it anyway.

We'll gladly submit it as your agent (and will add such language into the proposal) if you approve.

Yes, feel free to submit it. (You have a TG also.)

Submitted as "International Cheese Act". Also approved it. :D

Certainly got my attention.

In all seriousness though, where is this free food (or just dairy products) going to be coming from? and going to be consumed by?

Granted industrialised capitalist societies are able to produce vast amounts of primary foodstuffs. Not all of this is transformed into more expensive - but also more desirable secondary products. Some countries with tariffs against imported competing products and offering insentives to their farmers, often produce so much they have to resort to tossing that that doesn't sell on the compost heap.

And there are those, mostly over populated feudal countries, that struggle to feed anyone bar the upper ruling class.

On first glance it might seem like a good idea to give the excess from one country to another, however:

I. Would an industrialised capitalist nation be happy in propping up a despotism. Having a democratic structure to a nation advances progress. While it might be hard to see hundreds of thousands starving perhaps over time they might decide to overthrow their dictatorial leaders.

II. There are classic examples how a country struggling to feed it's population will blame it's problems on the more sucessful countries. Feeding a people so they can flip you the bird because of the propoganda from their government? Doesn't make sense.

III. Having something for free devalues the product. You're not going to go out and buy something if you can get it for free somewhere else. Except to see a black market develop of food products from country A being transported to B for humanitarian needs, but then taken back to A and resold at a fraction of the price it could originally be purchased for. The bootleggers still make a profit as it cost them next to nothing to begin with.

The UN should push an agenda of democratic nations and use surplus food supply - and it's availablity of, as a positive re-enforcer to change the government of non democratic countries.

The UN should push an agenda of democratic nations and use surplus food supply - and it's availablity of, as a positive re-enforcer to change the government of non democratic countries
Why?

I think the submitted proposal addresses some of your concerns, Sentient Computers:


International Cheese Act
A resolution to reduce income inequality and increase basic welfare.


Category: Social Justice
Strength: Significant
Proposed by: Vastiva

Description: The General Assembly of the United Nations,

RECOGNIZING the unequaled nutritional value of Cheese and other Dairy related products;

NOTING the responsibility of nations to provide adequate food supplies for their citizenry:

AFFIRMING the UN's role as guarantor of well-being for the benefit of the population and thus of the member nations,

HEREBY

1. ENCOURAGES the sale and/or transfer of Cheese, Dairy, and Dairy related products between UN nations;

2. REQUESTS the free distribution of said products to those unable to purchase them at fair market value and defined as worthy of such by the individual member nation;

3. DISCOURAGES STRONGLY the sale or transfer of "imitation" Dairy products;

4. CAUTIONS AGAINST research into the production of "imitation" Dairy products;

5. CALLS UPON UN member nations to advance research into new and improved methods of Dairy production and distribution as a priority within their research budgets.

(Submitted acting as an agent for Yelda)

Greetings.

We see that this might appear as possibly a somewhat unsubtle ploy to offload excess dairy production and thereby export the illnesses of certain kinds of nations to others. We propose that the products be differentiated by source and fat content. We further propose extension to ALL unprocessed agricultural supplies, again, with mandatory nutritional information.

We discriminate against cheeses and other chemically or biologically processed substances (as opposed to cream and butter which are physically separated), for the simple reason that imported excess tends to drown out variety of production and makes specialty cheeses disappear, sometimes for good - and sometimes for evil. Important biodiversity and process diversity is lost.

We have no problems with the intention of feeding the starving. We who serve the world as feudal overlords, contrary to popular belief, are enlightened enough to believe in the inherent goodness of such an ideal. Priestly miracles and thaumaturgic nutrition are expensive, although sufficient.

Why?
Because.

2. DISCOURAGES STRONGLY the sale or transfer of "imitation" Dairy products.

3. CAUTIONS AGAINST research into the production of "imitation" Dairy products.

A large part, if not most, of the people in the world are lactose intolerant. We see this as an afront to us, and will fight your proposal tooth and nail! Granted, our teeth and nails aren't as strong as yours who have not been weaned yet, but sticks and stones will break your bones as well.

A large part, if not most, of the people in the world are lactose intolerant. We see this as an afront to us, and will fight your proposal tooth and nail! Granted, our teeth and nails aren't as strong as yours who have not been weened yet, but stcks and stones will break your bones as well.
Greetings.

More to the point, what is this 'imitation' that is spoken of? We need more examples and definition thereof.

I think points 3 and 4 are a bit rough on people who are lactose intolerant. Those poor souls are condemmed to go through life only able to drink their coffee black :D.

I like this and will have to ask, beg, threaten, beat my regions delegate into endorsing it :p:) .

Because.
Ah.

Perhaps this thread should be merged into Vastiva's International Cheese Act thread.