NationStates Jolt Archive


UN porposal: Laws of Null

Aremell
30-05-2005, 23:57
How do you feel about this possible resolution? I really like it, but i also wrote it...
Vanhalenburgh
31-05-2005, 00:19
Hummmm....it seems kind of transparent
Neo-Anarchists
31-05-2005, 00:21
How do you feel about this possible resolution? I really like it, but i also wrote it...
You might want to actually post a copy on the forums so that more people can see it.
Category: The Furtherment of Democracy
Strength: Strong
Proposed by: Aremell

Description: Seeing that the United Nations has no real power over its states and that it is a voluntery organization, the people of the Holy Republic of Aremell proposes that states in the United Nations be able to null or void any and/or all laws/resolutions passed by the United Nations.
The belief behind this resolution is that a democracy is govern by its people, not some peoples thousands of miles away.
Thus when this resolution is passed, all states are free to null/void any laws/resolutions passed before and after this resolution.
Frisbeeteria
31-05-2005, 00:23
Well, it's good if you are looking to get ejected for the UN from breaking multiple proposal rules, but apart from that ...
Saint Uriel
31-05-2005, 00:31
It's a major game mechanics violation...
Vastiva
31-05-2005, 01:40
Wow. I don't think that could be more illegal without directly insulting the moderators and stating questionable imprecations about Max's heritage.
Aremell
31-05-2005, 03:58
i did read the rules for proposing, and i didnt think this was going to be a "major" change in game play. you could simplely make it an issue for nations, so a day when a resolution passes, an issue comes up and ask if you want to null/void the resolution in your country.
Enn
31-05-2005, 04:04
It may not seem like much, but it would require a major recoding of the entire structure of the game. What you are saying is that two more-or-less independent parts of the game - issues and the UN - be recoded so that they link together.

Max Barry made clear right from the start that UN resolutions were non-negotiable.

The UN is your chance to mold the rest of the world to your vision, by voting for resolutions you like and scuttling the rest. However, it's a double-edged sword, because your nation will also be affected by any resolutions that pass. (You can't just obey the resolutions you like and ignore the rest, like real nations do.)(bolding mine)

As such, this proposal is illegal.
Fatus Maximus
31-05-2005, 04:16
Wow. I don't think that could be more illegal without directly insulting the moderators and stating questionable imprecations about Max's heritage.

OOC: ROFLMAO!!!

:p :p :p
Frisbeeteria
31-05-2005, 04:23
i did read the rules for proposing,
This thread? Rules For UN Proposals [Now Binding] (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=420465)? How did you manage to miss this paragraph right near the top that EXPLICITY forbids exactly this sort of thing?Optionality

UN Proposals are not optional. Don't try to make one that is. Many 'Mild' Proposals will have phrases such as "RECOMMENDS" or "URGES", which is just fine. The opinionality ban refers to when language such as "Nations can ignore this Resolution if they want," which is right out.Just curious. It seems pretty clear to me.
Grand Teton
31-05-2005, 12:45
UN porposal: Laws of Null
It also appears to be a crossbreed between a porpoise and a proposal. Imagine that on the UN floor :p .

[sorry, I just couldn't resist]