NationStates Jolt Archive

Hi, I think the abortion resolution should be repealed. However, I'm not in the UN, and don't want to rejoin (besides, my writing sucks! :P)

But, one of the resolutions really bugs me the abortion one. it says 'Henceforth all women shall have the right to choose whether to have an abortion or not, no member nation will interfere with a woman's right to have an abortion.'

Of course women should have control over their own body, but this give them too much free reign over it. My main concern is with partial-birth abortions. That is just gross that the resolution would allow things like that, when the baby can live outsie the womb, and they suck its brain out to kill it.

I know some people use religion as their arguement to get rid of it, and while that is an interesting point of view, IMO, its irreleveant for the UN, which is secular. However, repealing it so that the kinds of abortions that can take place at at what points in fetal development it can take place at, can be more formally decided, would be good.

What do you guys think?

I think that as long as you remain outside the UN, you have no relevant say about the resolutions.

I think that as long as you remain outside the UN, you have no relevant say about the resolutions.

I would join, but I don't want my people killing fetuses that have beating hearts and brains and that can feel pain etc.

And the point is still relevant, whether I'm UN or not.

You do know that the vast majority of, in fact almost all, partial birth abortions are done because of severe fetal abnormalities or continuing the pregnacy will endanger the womans life? Do you really want to ban it in these circumstances.

I imagine very few, if any, women would go through 7 or 8 months of pregnacy and suddenly decide they don't want the baby. Most "I don't want it" abortions are done in the first trimester.

We stand by the resolution as it is written as it protects a womans right to chose, at any stage of fetal development, and keeps others noses out of her reproductive business.

I would join, but I don't want my people killing fetuses that have beating hearts and brains and that can feel pain etc.

And the point is still relevant, whether I'm UN or not.

No, it's not. We of the UN agreed by our joining to abide by this and any other resolution passed. You, on the outside, are flapping your yip without any sense of what this resolution means or did.

If you don't want your people doing something, pass some laws. We of the UN prefer a world where a person has the right to their own body.

Good Day to you.

I am against abortion except in unusual circumstances, i agree that the current resolution does not define a number of things.

From my memory, it does not set a time limit on when a woman with a healthy baby can be terminated/killed. I would like to see this at 12 weeks.

I would also like to see articles stating that if the baby was a result of a rape then up to 18 weeks.
That if it put's the mother's life at risk then it can be aborted at any stage of the pregnancy.
If the baby was going to be born with severe abnormalities, unlike the doctors here in england, i do not deem cleft palate a severe abnormality.

That the approval of two doctors is required for an abortion after 12 weeks and that all abortions must be carried out in licensed premises.

I am against abortion except in unusual circumstances, i agree that the current resolution does not define a number of things.

From my memory, it does not set a time limit on when a woman with a healthy baby can be terminated/killed. I would like to see this at 12 weeks.

I would also like to see articles stating that if the baby was a result of a rape then up to 18 weeks.
That if it put's the mother's life at risk then it can be aborted at any stage of the pregnancy.
If the baby was going to be born with severe abnormalities, unlike the doctors here in england, i do not deem cleft palate a severe abnormality.

That the approval of two doctors is required for an abortion after 12 weeks and that all abortions must be carried out in licensed premises.

Ah well, but you're in the UN, so your only course of action is to attempt to repeal it, then propose new legislation.

The last twenty attempts failed, FWIW.

Ah you see i did put proposals to repeal it based on national sovereignty and that nations themselves should decide upon whether or not abortion is legal and how legal and under what circumstances but it never even got nearly enough approvals so i gave up while i try and gather what would be acceptable.