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Let's make a binding law! I say that: there should only be a 3 week period where EVERYONE gets it. If a company can't affirm you tried for a position atleast, you are cut off after 3 weeks. +1 conservatism. Whatcha think? add your own personal opinion. Also, Those in with education in a low-demand sector may get extra.

I say leave it up to the indvidual nations to set their own unemployment rules.
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We say you need to do a whole lot more research on the topic before deciding on an opinion on something of such magnitude.

I am afraid that we would need much more information on this.

How would you plan to pay for this plan? Most unemplyment plans are paid for by both the employees and their employers. How would a country with rampant unemployment be able to meet this standard?

Please provide more information on this topic.

Minister to the UN
Henry Peabody

I say leave it up to the indvidual nations to set their own unemployment rules.
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Dude, so many binding UN reslutions have been made, why is unemployment comp excluded? these are usually not from previous employers, but from state branches. this is NO T severance pay. Any nation with structure and income tax already has a system such as this, but more liberalizd and wastefull.

Once again I am forced to ask how you would pay for an international plan like this. If a country had unemployment that is out of hand that means they have less tax dollars coming in and no practical way to fund this.

In many nations unemployment benefits are managed by the government from payroll taxes collected from employers and in some cases employees. That is why many small business owners and self employed workers are often not eligible for unemployment compensation because they have not paid into the system. A nation that has not previously had the budget set up for an unemployment system would take a huge financial hit.

Plus who would qualify for benefits? You state everyone. Do you mean everyone who does not have a job? Do you mean everyone who lost their job? Quit their job? Got fired? In short what would the requirements be to meet? This would have to be laid out VERY specifically.

I know that if our nation (Vanhalenburgh) was in a worse economical state then what we currently are we would demand that UN nations help fund a proposal such as this that would be even a greater strain on our economy.

Having said that we think that this is a decision left up to each nation. The varying types of economies prohibit a proposal such as this from being effective for some nations and would only hurt them in the long run.

Minister to the UN
Henry Peabody

Dude, so many binding UN reslutions have been made, why is unemployment comp excluded? these are usually not from previous employers, but from state branches. this is NO T severance pay. Any nation with structure and income tax already has a system such as this, but more liberalizd and wastefull.
You're new here so you don't realize that I'm one of the biggest National Sovereignty advocates on this forum, my stance is that if is not an international matter then the UN shouldn't be involved with it, and unemployment benefits are most defenatly not an international matter.

Besides as Vanhalenburgh said how would this be paid for?

well, in most nations, if you quit, do you qualify for unemployment benefit? I believe you shouldn't, unless you were harrassed, etc. i just feel setting a global standard can help nations foster better budgeting of social services, and produce a society that does not rely on government pay checks.

Unfortunately, a definite global standard with around 37,000 nations forced to adhere is a bad idea. The problem is that that single number, in this case three weeks, could be devestating to nations depending on their economic situation, population, standard wages, whatever. Unless your standard is one of an actual equation that fits each nations changing requirements, it should be left to each nation to decide what is best.