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Education for all - mean really

Padronato
10-05-2005, 14:06
Padronato's government has submitted a <a href=http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/91437/page=UN_proposal/start=40>proposal</a> to grant anybody really free education.

Here's the text:

Description: The United Nations,

NOTING that a large number of young people cannot study until the age of 18, owing to the poverty of their families that compels them to start working before completing their studies;

CONSIDERING that people who receive a better education have more chances to improve their own social status;

REJECTING the prospect of a human society where the status of people is unlikely to change;

RECALLING UN Resolution #28, implemented August 19, 2003, which grants free education for all the youth until the age of 18, but actually does not offer a chance to study until the age of 18 due to the reason mentioned above;

REQUIRE the following:

1. Education should be compulsory for any person until the age of 18.

2. UN members should allocate funds to pay an Education Salary, equal to the average national salary, to each student until the age of 18.

3. Work until the age of 18 should be outlawed.

Support free education, support <a href=http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/91437/page=UN_proposal/start=40> Compulsory education Act</a>

Tobar Dennis
Foreign Affairs Minister
Commonwealth of Padronato
Gwenstefani
10-05-2005, 14:11
The provision of free education until the age of 18 is already compulsory in all UN states. I do not believe that we need to pay children to go to school: I do not believe it is affordable either. Nor should it be compulsory to attend school until the age of 18.
Padronato
10-05-2005, 14:15
I know free education is compulsory. But many people can't study anyway.

T. D.
Foreign Affairs Minister
Commonwealth of Padronato
Frisbeeteria
10-05-2005, 14:48
See http://forums.jolt.co.uk/misc.php?do=bbcode for ways to include links properly, Padronato. HTML is disabled on these forums.
_Myopia_
10-05-2005, 15:38
There is no way that a nation such as ours could possibly afford to pay students to go to school right through the education system (although we do operate some schemes funding poorer students to stay in education above working age). And prohibiting work up to 18 is simply unproductive - some people are much happier in vocational education and cannot really benefit from remaining in the academic system all the way to 18. We encourage these children to choose other options, including schemes in which they learn a practical trade as they work. Some students of engineering and other subjects take a break from their education to do paid work in the industry - they return to formal education much better off, both financially and from the point of view of their studies. Your proposal would effectively end these schemes, forcing people to stay in an academic environment which holds them back because their talents are unsuited to it, and restricting the ability of students to gain worthwhile experience of the industries they wish to enter.
Cobdenia
10-05-2005, 23:00
1. Education should be compulsory for any person until the age of 18

Not all children are cut out for higher education. By forcing them to attend above 16, you lower higher education standards. A lot.


2. UN members should allocate funds to pay an Education Salary, equal to the average national salary, to each student until the age of 18.
Why? If education is free (which it has to be by previous UN resolution), why pay them.
Also, the countries that have low taxation rates have high average wages, therefore it would force all countries to have a minimum taxation rate, and destroy nearly every economy in the UN.
Apart from that it's great :rolleyes:


Work until the age of 18 should be outlawed.

"It's time for you to get a paper round"
"Sorry, I can't. It's against UN law"

"Son, could you wash the car for me?"
"Sorry, I can't. It's against UN law"

"Can you look after your little brother while I'm at the shops"
"Sorry, I can't. It's against UN law"
Vanhalenburgh
10-05-2005, 23:09
THe basic for this proposal is covered by previous UN resolutions.

Makeing it illegal to allow a person to work below the age of 18 is not functional. Not everyone comes from a well off economic background. Many young men and women CHOOSE to work after school jobs to earn extra cash to pay for the items they want that their families can not (or will not) buy for them.

Plus this would put an crushing burdon on nations that are mostly agricultural.

Minister to the UN
Henry Peabody
Siaka
11-05-2005, 06:45
I shall not support this proposal. The idea of paying students untill they are 18 and they can not work is just absurd. This is another one of those proposals that tear away at a nation's soverignity. What will be next a resolution telling me what my teachers must teach???
Vastiva
11-05-2005, 07:50
We are not paying students to learn. We are paying quite enough to give them the opportunity to learn. Should they choose to ignore that opportunity, that's their choice.

Nor are we preventing farmers from having their progeny help with the chores, nor from parents giving their children their "to do" lists.

In short - a bad proposal.
Krioval
11-05-2005, 07:56
Gods, no. It's not like paying schoolchildren to sit in class all day isn't going to come out of mommy and daddy's pocket anyway through higher taxes. And remember, at least half of the students who graduate are going to have to take a pay cut when they get a job - remember what "average salary" means.