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Here's a potential UN Resolution that I'd appreciate constructive critisms for:


The General Assembly,

NOTING that not all humans in the world are either fully female or fully male. As many as 1 percent of live births exhibit some degree of sexual ambiguity.

RECGONIZING that there are two main ways thru which the sex of an individual is determined in most societies:
1)By the appearance of the individual's genitalia
2)By the sex chromosome pair of the individual (XX=Female, XY=Male)

DECLARING that this system of sex determination is prone to errors, as:

1)Individuals can be born with ambiguous genitalia, in which the individual possessess features of both female and male genitals
2)Not all persons are born with a XX or XY chromosome set. There are cases of XO, XXX, XXY, XYY, XO/XY, XY persons with female genitals and XX persons with male genitals.

REALIZING that such persons could be considered neither female nor male, and therefore denied the rights granted in the sex equality resolutions.

ALSO REALIZING that in many nations, one's legal sex may still taken into account, despite equal rights. Examples of this include; sex-segregated lavatories/changing rooms, government census/surveys, and various youth organizations.

THEREFORE LET IT BE RESOLVED THAT

1)Individuals with ambiguous sex charateristics are granted the full rights of those persons legally considered females and males.

2)Intersexed persons have the right to become legally female or male, to facilitate their integration into a largely two-sexed society.These individuals also retain the right to be considered 'intersexed' at their disgression.



What do you think?

the rights thing i think is covered under various rights resolutions, including rights of minorities and women (under the catagory of minorities), but you will have to check with mods.
the other part.... i am unsure about that, as i could be deemed insignificant if the rights point is already covered

the rights thing i think is covered under various rights resolutions, including rights of minorities and women (under the catagory of minorities), but you will have to check with mods.
the other part.... i am unsure about that, as i could be deemed insignificant if the rights point is already covered

The main issue is that all of the resolutions seem to assume that all citizens are either male or female. This resolution would prevent nations from using the 'You arn't either one!' loophole to restrict intersexual rights.

For example: In the Abortion Rights one, it says that the government cannot stop 'All WOMEN' from having an abortion. Say there is an XXY female who is chromosonally male. The government could say they can't have an abortion, because, by that nation's defintition, that person is a man.

Is this really a problem?

Is this really a problem?

It could be. I don't rule an oppressive nation, so I wouldn't know... ;)

...These centres must be sensitive and cater to the needs of intersex people

This is all that is really said about intersexed people in all of the passed resolutions. The SRL also speaks of all sexes, but, as I have said before, a wily government could call an intersexed person 'neither' or 'in-between' and therefore the UN rules don't apply to those persons...

Perhaps I should add a clause that says that legally they may constitute a 'Thid sex' thereby granting them protection?

It could be. I don't rule an oppressive nation, so I wouldn't know... ;)
and if you were, you would be subjected to a number of passed resolutions that you couldnt get away with it already. as i said, run it by a mod, but i believe this is covered

OOC: Biologically, a male with XXY (Kleinfelter's syndrome) is sterile. The same is true for XO females (Turner's syndrome), XX males, and XY females as far as I can recall. So abortion isn't really an issue in these cases.

OOC: Biologically, a male with XXY (Kleinfelter's syndrome) is sterile. The same is true for XO females (Turner's syndrome), XX males, and XY females as far as I can recall. So abortion isn't really an issue in these cases.

OOC: Read my lips. "With TECHNOLOGY, anything is possible". :D

i thought XXX and XXY was supposed to be downs syndrome

How do I 'run it by a mod'?

i thought XXX and XXY was supposed to be downs syndrome

Down Syndrome is a trisomy (three copies) of Chromosome 21

ask a moderator to look over the proposal. thats what the term means

I know that.

The thing is, I don't know HOW to contact a mod, other than through the tech reports, which offers no way for response.

fris will wander through here at one point. also, you can pm or tg them to look it over

I'd support the proposal in principle.

I like this proposal. It's well written, provides a decent preamble, and provides fair legislation.

Are you a puppet nation perchance?

Are you a puppet nation perchance?

Indeed, I am.

Indeed, I am.

I didn't think a newbie nation would be that adept at writing resolutions ;)

I didn't think a newbie nation would be that adept at writing resolutions ;)

Its not hard at all. A 7-year old could come up with proposals of this quality (provided that (s)he had the information). The real problem is that most people are lazy, and don't want to put some effort into their work (example: my 'Save the Trees' proposal... LOL!)

Hm.

Discrimination Accord (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8689431&postcount=100): RESOLVES upon protecting all persons and groups in member nations from discrimination by their respective member governments;

REQUIRES member governments to fairly and equally apply the following rights of citizens as they are upheld by international and national law:

4. Any social dividends paid out to or provided for persons or groups deemed by member national or international government to be in social need (unemployment benefits, health care, etc.), including, but not limited to, those social dividends secured by international law,

§ The UN condemns discrimination by governments, discrimination on the basis of differences in recognized religion, race, sex, sexual orientation, age, language, school of thought, or intelligence.

§ The UN disallows member governments from discriminating the previously described rights (protection under law, participation in government, etc.) based upon such differences.

Rights of Minorities and Women (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7565919&postcount=81):The UN should recognize that all people are created equal. The matter of race, sex, religion or sexual preference should not make anyone less equal. These are inalienable rights of all UN nation citizens.

The Sexes Rights Law (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7030222&postcount=70):5. The Nation States United Nations recognises that gender is not just a physical manifestation but also a mental manifestation, and recognises that people of self proclaimed gender are also equally protected by the regulations and recommendations bound here in.

While not specifically addressing your points, the above Resolutions seem to largely cover your concerns.

While not specifically addressing your points, the above Resolutions seem to largely cover your concerns.

So, is it a dead proposal then? :sniper:

So, is it a dead proposal then? :sniper:
i would say so, and it is what i pointed out from the beginning.