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I had just submitted this proposal to UN yesterday. Please read and if you agree, please vote/approve it. Thank you ^^ (PS: It can be found in the "List Proposals" 16th page or by typing "National Service" in the search bar below.)

National Service Program
A resolution to improve world security by boosting police and military budgets.

Category: International Security
Strength: Significant
Proposed by: Developing Malaysia

Description: The National Service Program is a new act named the National Service Training Act Year 2005 which was legislated to ensure one’s registration and attendant is compulsory.

Objective
National Service Program will be executed to reach the below objectives:

i) To implant the patriotism spirit inside every teenagers and the younger generation.
ii) To cherish unity between ethnics and national integration.
iii) To form positive characters (character building) through moral values.

Execution
In executing the National Service Program, few important aspects will be taken into account:

i) Three(3) months of training period in camp/lodging-house.
ii) Execution will begin in early year 2006.
iii) Training infrastructures and all facilities inside lodging-house will be prepared.
iv) Financial implication.
v) Limitation of the effect on the running education system.
vi) Use the energy from the aspect of expert and experience.

Camp Location
Involving one(1) month of camping at training centers for physical training to implant the spirit of discipline, self-durability, and capability to work in a group (esprit de-corp), etc. These training centers are determined by the following characteristics:

i) Every training center has a capacity of one thousand(1,000) participants to make it easier for the management and small-groups deviding.
ii) Located nearby the jungle/forest, mountains, beside rivers or beaches.
iii) Located in every state.
iv) Have enough training and outdoor activity area for ground an water activity.
v) Surrounding area has location characteristics and training needed to develop.
vi) Nearby facilitates like the commodious “lost one’s way” , public transportation, place for praying, hospital, police station, and bank, etc.

Lodging-house Locating
The Lodging-house location will use the facility in the universities. Two(2) months of training will be hold. Activity and co-curriculum, patriotism implanting, character building and social servicing will be included in the two(2) months training. This two(2) months execution is applicable with the long holiday or the semester holiday for the universities.

Participants
The first group of participants will participate in the National Service Program are those who born in 1988 who is in the 5th year of hi-school in year 2005. The total number of participants who will be involved in this program in year 2006 is eighty-five thousand(85,000) out of the four hundred and eighty thousand(450,000) who are qualified. Since only eighty-five thousand(85,000) participants are chosen to join this National Service training, so a system of computerize-picking is enabled.

Approvals: 2 (Juggalando, Lior Liechtenstein)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 146 more approvals)

Voting Ends: Thu May 5 2005

PS: It is just a 3 months program, it is not everyone is forced to join, just those who are being choosen and capable to participate. They are those who graduated from the Hi-School. The program run every year after each final exam in 5th year in Hi-School. Moral is what make a settlement advance. To be honest, not only the technology of a nation is taken into the account, but also the moral of its people.

And it isn't an intensive training. Of course, during the training program, teenagers get to make new friends and gain experience before they going to university or work. I don't think it is too much to ask them to join cause it is just once in their whole life and it benefits them in many ways.

looks interesting, but as a rule, TLA is against National Service. and we ask the question: what has national service got to do with the UN? if it applies to the millitary of each nation, that should be the nations choice, not the UN. if it applies to the UN millitary, the last time i checked, the UN wernt allowed to have any, thus this is illegal. if you want national service, you have it, just dont force us to do it.

Although we believe strongly in National Service, we agree with the esteemed representaive from the TLA. This is not a matter that really transcends national boundaries.

Actually it is not suppose to be in the International Security category. But if I put it in Moral Decency, it is not correct too cause it descripted as "A resolution to restrict civil freedoms in the interest of moral decency."

Read the PS in the 1st post...it is not actually applies to military of the UN but to increase the patriotism of UN nations's people. Read the PS I added in the 1st post.

still, as pointed out, this is most definatly a national issue, and does not trancend boundries (unless those doing national service actually fight against another country). it isnt really UN worthy. also, it can actually have a detrimental affect on your millitary, in those who dont really want to fight are in the frontlines, and personally, we would rather fighters on the front line, not those who dont want to

As I was reading the proposal I was thinking that it is totally inopropriate for our non-militaristic nation as we don't have, need or want mandatory national service, however I wasn't thinking it was a bad proposal at all until I came to this bit which I have bolded...

Lodging-house Locating
The Lodging-house location will use the facility in the universities. Two(2) months of training will be hold. Activity and co-curriculum, patriotism implanting, character building and social servicing will be included in the two(2) months training. This two(2) months execution is applicable with the long holiday or the semester holiday for the universities.

This sounds too much like brain washing to me. I don't believe you can force young people to be patriotic and we don't need an army of slogan shouting, brainwashed sheep. Instead we prefer the young people of our nation to be independant, free thinking, forward planning, innovators.

This sounds too much like brain washing to me. I don't believe you can force young people to be patriotic and we don't need an army of slogan shouting, brainwashed sheep. Instead we prefer the young people of our nation to be independant, free thinking, forward planning, innovators.
i will admit i only read the title and instantly said no. now that you have pointed that section out, we fully dissagree with this.

As I was reading the proposal I was thinking that it is totally inopropriate for our non-militaristic nation as we don't have, need or want mandatory national service, however I wasn't thinking it was a bad proposal at all until I came to this bit which I have bolded...



This sounds too much like brain washing to me. I don't believe you can force young people to be patriotic and we don't need an army of slogan shouting, brainwashed sheep. Instead we prefer the young people of our nation to be independant, free thinking, forward planning, innovators.
omg, are you kidding me? Patriotism Implanting isn't brainwashing...with people who is patriotic can do more for the UN nation. Furthermore, it doesn't mean it restrict the free thinking, forward planning and innovation of a teenager but instead the opposite.

omg, are you kidding me? Patriotism Implanting isn't brainwashing...with people who is patriotic can do more for the UN nation. Furthermore, it doesn't mean it restrict the free thinking, forward planning and innovation of a teenager but instead the opposite.
a) there is no UN nation, and b) patriotism implanting is brainwashing. patriots who are brainwashed only make a mockery of the nation's international appearence. OOC: many instances of that can be found in real life.

I was going to give you credit for taking such an unpopular idea, (and one tht my nation disagrees with,) and making a somewhat coherent proposal out of it... until you said:

omg, are you kidding me?

This is the United Nations, after all. Let's try to at least respond to criticism intelligently.

To take a real life example...Germany in the 1930s. Exteme patriotism pushed onto the population, especially the younger generations. We all know the end result of that.

The exact word you used is "implanting". That means you are going to force it into their brains whether they want it or not. That is brainwashing pure and simple.

If this was voluntary and only those teens who wanted to go through this training had to do it my opinion about it would probably be different, but there is no way my nation will force its youth to go through mandatory national service especially as we are not a military oriented nation.

I was going to give you credit for taking such an unpopular idea, (and one tht my nation disagrees with,) and making a somewhat coherent proposal out of it... until you said:



This is the United Nations, after all. Let's try to at least respond to criticism intelligently.
obviously you havent seen some of the reply (like ours to the lethal gun ban proposal)

National Service Program
A resolution to improve world security by boosting police and military budgets.

Category: International Security
Strength: Significant
Proposed by: Developing Malaysia

Description: The National Service Program is a new act named the National Service Training Act Year 2005 which was legislated to ensure one’s registration and attendant is compulsory.

Objective
National Service Program will be executed to reach the below objectives:


What the hell?


i) To implant the patriotism spirit inside every teenagers and the younger generation.

What is the definition of 'patriotism'? My nation considers patriotism love of country (not necessarily love of government or governmental actions)... I consider protestors in my nation the highest calibre of patriots.


ii) To cherish unity between ethnics and national integration.

What about those of us that are merely "Federations of states" and not "Nations"?


iii) To form positive characters (character building) through moral values.

Whose morality? I'd rather ethics be taught.


Execution
In executing the National Service Program, few important aspects will be taken into account:

i) Three(3) months of training period in camp/lodging-house.
ii) Execution will begin in early year 2006.
iii) Training infrastructures and all facilities inside lodging-house will be prepared.
iv) Financial implication.
v) Limitation of the effect on the running education system.
vi) Use the energy from the aspect of expert and experience.

Camp Location
Involving one(1) month of camping at training centers for physical training to implant the spirit of discipline, self-durability, and capability to work in a group (esprit de-corp), etc. These training centers are determined by the following characteristics:

This sounds more like the Constitutional Republic's mandatory 2 year military conscriptions. Why do we need an external UN group to handle that what we already do through normative military training and education?


i) Every training center has a capacity of one thousand(1,000) participants to make it easier for the management and small-groups deviding.
ii) Located nearby the jungle/forest, mountains, beside rivers or beaches.
iii) Located in every state.
iv) Have enough training and outdoor activity area for ground an water activity.
v) Surrounding area has location characteristics and training needed to develop.
vi) Nearby facilitates like the commodious “lost one’s way” , public transportation, place for praying, hospital, police station, and bank, etc.

Lodging-house Locating
The Lodging-house location will use the facility in the universities. Two(2) months of training will be hold. Activity and co-curriculum, patriotism implanting, character building and social servicing will be included in the two(2) months training. This two(2) months execution is applicable with the long holiday or the semester holiday for the universities.

Participants
The first group of participants will participate in the National Service Program are those who born in 1988 who is in the 5th year of hi-school in year 2005. The total number of participants who will be involved in this program in year 2006 is eighty-five thousand(85,000) out of the four hundred and eighty thousand(450,000) who are qualified. Since only eighty-five thousand(85,000) participants are chosen to join this National Service training, so a system of computerize-picking is enabled.


I don't get the point of all of this...

If this was voluntary and only those teens who wanted to go through this training had to do it my opinion about it would probably be different, but there is no way my nation will force its youth to go through mandatory national service especially as we are not a military oriented nation.
if this was voluntary, it would get thrown out in the trash already as a usless waste of time. also how can something that is compulsory be volentary? that would make this so self contradictory that it would be picked to pieces in an instant.

This is my first proposal. It seems like I submitted the wrong one to the UN. I appologize and thank you on your oppinions on this proposal and I promise to bring better proposal next time, a proposal that is worthy for the UN to agree with :) Thank you once again ^^

I strongly recommend implementing it as a national program. In fact, we might even steal a few ideas from it if you don't mind. Wait, scratch that, we don't care if you mind or not.

I strongly recommend implementing it as a national program. In fact, we might even steal a few ideas from it if you don't mind. Wait, scratch that, we don't care if you mind or not.
go for it ^^