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SUBMITTED: Repeal of "Required Basic Healthcare" (search for "basic" in search bar)

Powerhungry Chipmunks
28-04-2005, 18:22
I've submitted the repeal to Required Basic Healthcare. I've done so to both clarify what the UN is enforcing (in relation to "RBH Replacement") and to make game mechanics more easily understood in general. Also, it is the will of the UN (as per the RBH Replacement) that a repeal-like function occur for "Required Basic Healthcare". Now that we have repeals available, I feel it a duty to enact it on "Required Basic Healthcare".

If you don't know what I'm talking about, both resolutions are here (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=UN_past_resolutions/start=15). Look at clause 1 (and 2, to a certain degree) of "RBH Replacement". It is clear that a 9,151 majority of the voters felt that "Required Basic Healthcare" should be made but a "reference document".

(Link Updated for Saturday!)

Here's a link to my repeal proposal for today (Saturday) (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/pin=47898608/page=UN_proposal/start=5)


Argument: The United Nations,

CALLING TO MIND the passage of “Required Basic Healthcare” from June 5, 2003 and its presumed ‘replacement’, “’RBH’ Replacement” from June 26, 2003,

RECOGNIZING “Required Basic Healthcare” as a valuable reference document, though outdated in its methods of delivery, as conceded by “RBH Replacement”,

RECOGNIZING FURTHER the UN’s decision that “Required Basic Healthcare” not be enforced, as per clause 1 of “’RBH’ Replacement” which states, “[t]he resolution “Required Basic Healthcare” is to be no longer enforced by the UN”,

NOTING the possible confusion to member nations over which resolution to enforce given the lack of the ‘repeal mechanic’ at the time of passage for “Required Basic Healthcare” and “RBH Replacement”,

NOTING FURTHER other older, poorly-worded resolutions or sets of resolutions which came about prior to the ability to repeal and CALLING for repeals to all such resolutions in order to clarify the international law imposed on member nations by the UN,

AIMING to make easily understandable the UN’s enforcement regarding healthcare,

DETERMINING it a clerical and technical necessity to repeal “Required Basic Healthcare”, as well as a required measure to elevate the nature of legislation in the UN:

REPEALS “Required Basic Healthcare”.

Please approve this. It's for the good of the UN.
Ricardo and Smith
28-04-2005, 18:55
The Protectarate of Ricardo and Smith, proud to be leading the way in the gap between rich and poor in its region, will be supporting your proposal.

Healthcare is NOT a universal right.

By definition, it CANNOT be a universal right.

The whole context of this, is a misunderstanding of 'rights'.

A right must be something you are entitled to, and is always availiable.

To apply a rights system to healthcare is pointless.

Simply because it presumes healthcare will always be there to be had.

This is a complete fiction and distortion of the market.

Somone therefore could 'demand' a 'right' to healthcare when there are no drugs or no doctors.

The previous resolution is insane. It abuses domestic policy of nation states.
It is also in contradiction of a host of other free trade UN proposals.

All hail Thatcher.
Powerhungry Chipmunks
29-04-2005, 01:53
Well, actually, I don't think it would change how the UN enforces healthcare on nations at all.

Right now, I interpret that RBH Replacement is the pre-repeal equivelant to a repeal and replacement (such as with the Global Library). So, if "Required Basic Healthcare" is already repealed, we're just carrying out the mechanical, official side of what the UN agreed to do a long time ago with "RBH Replacement".

So, yeah it'll clear up confusion for nations currently submitting themselves to "Required Basic Healthcare", but officially (according to my best interpretation) it won't change what nations are really required to do healthcare-wise (ie. the content of RBH Replacement). It's as if I were repealing and replacing "Required Basic Healthcare", except the UN's already decided to support the replacement.

But, we still need the repeal.

Please approve!
Neo-Anarchists
29-04-2005, 02:09
The Protectarate of Ricardo and Smith, proud to be leading the way in the gap between rich and poor in its region, will be supporting your proposal.

Healthcare is NOT a universal right.

By definition, it CANNOT be a universal right.

The whole context of this, is a misunderstanding of 'rights'.

A right must be something you are entitled to, and is always availiable.

To apply a rights system to healthcare is pointless.

Simply because it presumes healthcare will always be there to be had.

This is a complete fiction and distortion of the market.

Somone therefore could 'demand' a 'right' to healthcare when there are no drugs or no doctors.

The previous resolution is insane. It abuses domestic policy of nation states.
It is also in contradiction of a host of other free trade UN proposals.

All hail Thatcher.
I believe you misunderstand. Powerhungry Chipmunks is repealing "Required Basic Healthcare" because there is already a replacement proposal. That is, if I understood Powerhungry's proposal correctly.
Powerhungry Chipmunks
29-04-2005, 02:52
I believe you misunderstand. Powerhungry Chipmunks is repealing "Required Basic Healthcare" because there is already a replacement proposal. That is, if I understood Powerhungry's proposal correctly.

Ding! ding! ding!

Absolutely Correct!
Texan Hotrodders
29-04-2005, 03:10
I support this repeal.

<<<< Is against...

REDUNDANCY!
Flibbleites
29-04-2005, 06:13
I'm the first approval on the list, I think you can tell where I stand.:D
Powerhungry Chipmunks
29-04-2005, 18:09
My sincere thanks to all who've approved thus far.

For everyone else, please approve!

Here's a link to the repeal proposal for today (also updated in the first post) (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/pin=47898608/page=UN_proposal/start=10)
Powerhungry Chipmunks
30-04-2005, 16:40
I'm in a really good page position with the proposal. today it's on page 2 (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/45334/page=UN_proposal/start=5) (Saturday), nd tomorrow it'll be on page 1!

Please approve this repeal proposal.

And, if you have approved the repeal proposal, please consider approving it again should I be forced to resubmit. Thanks everyone!
Powerhungry Chipmunks
02-05-2005, 06:36
The repeal proposal for RBH has acquired over 90 approvals its first go around and will be resubmitted later this week (Wednesday, probably). Please approve it upon resubmission.
Flibbleites
02-05-2005, 06:42
Will do, each and every time needed until it comes up for vote.