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Will regional delegates please approve the "tighten or relax gun laws" proposal. I've been waiting to be able to vote on it and it seems that nothing is getting put through.

Will regional delegates please approve the "tighten or relax gun laws" proposal. I've been waiting to be able to vote on it and it seems that nothing is getting put through.

Could you post a copy of it here? I sincerely doubt that yours is the only Gun Control proposal in the queue and easy to find.

Certainly the Delegates and members here will probably be able to give you an idea of why it's not getting through, but I'll start off.

If it's a good proposal, you probably just need to mount a telegram campaign to get the requisite number of approvals. If it's a bad proposal, you just need to mount an even more extensive telegram campaign to get the requisite number of approvals. :D

It's this one
"Description: HELPING to save lives of anyone who may be in a nation that is overrun with guns, or to save lives of those who may be threatened with guns by neighbouring nations.

NOTING that without this resolution, innocent lives can be lost due to careless government laws.

MAKING SURE that any nations who are within this resolution have protected innocent civilians with low gun ownership within the nation and surrounding nations.

NOTING that this does not count for the military, only home ownership of guns.

1. DEFINES "guns" as a serious weapon of destruction and death.
"control" as having something in your power (in this case government power).

2. ESTABLISHES a "Gun and Safety Protection Organisation" (GASPO), which has the power to do the following tasks:

a). Control gun ownership in their nation.
b). Ensuring that all civilians in the nation are fully educated in gun safety.
c). Maintains full First Aid courses which are manditory for all citizens.
d). Ensuring that all citizens know what they need to do incase they become threatened.
e). Ensuring that all guns are kept to a minimum in the home (only those with special licenses will be allowed to have ownership of a gun).

3. EMPHASIZES that GASPO is strictly to protect human life from the terror in the barrel (guns).

4. REQUESTS that all nations wishing to take part, set up National Red Cross Centres in all major cities/areas.

5. URGES all nations to assist GASPO, either financially or by any other way, so that GASPO can be established and continue to work to save nations.

6. EMPHASIZES that guns can be violent and can kill lives.

7. CALLS UPON all nations to assist in responding to this proposal as one day it could be you.

Please accept this proposal so that we can stop gun crime in our very own homes!"
I didn't propose it as I don't have enough endorsements. I'd propose another just the same but like I said, not enough endorsements.

1. DEFINES "guns" as a serious weapon of destruction and death.
"control" as having something in your power (in this case government power).



So "guns" include nuclear missles, chainsaws, and plastic forks jammed through your enemy's eyeball?

We like guns.

In a region overrun by polar bears, guns are our best friend. Well, no - artillery is our best friend, but I'm not giving 155mm field pieces to the general public.

We're not supporting this fearmongering piece of drivel. All proof has shown its ideology to be wrongheaded - and we are not about to start supporting wrongheaded proposals.

In Cyrian Space nearly everyone is armed. We like it that way.
Because of this policy, crime is almost non-existant, and a serious strain has been removed from the police force.
A person cannot attempt to commit a violent crime in a public place in Cyrian Space without nearly everyone in the area pulling a gun on them and politely asking them to desist. It seems that when the public at large are fully capable of defending themselves, they are very rarely attacked.

Also, our very relaxed armament laws provide a powerful guard against tyranny and oppression of the people. When the people are armed, they are very difficult to opress.

NOTING that this does not count for the military, only home ownership of guns.

It won't affect you're military, only the safety of you're citizens. I'd greatly appriciate it if someone could put it up again as the voting date has gone out. I don't have any endorsements.

In Cyrian Space nearly everyone is armed. We like it that way.
Because of this policy, crime is almost non-existant, and a serious strain has been removed from the police force.
A person cannot attempt to commit a violent crime in a public place in Cyrian Space without nearly everyone in the area pulling a gun on them and politely asking them to desist. It seems that when the public at large are fully capable of defending themselves, they are very rarely attacked.

Or that you will have plenty of massive shootouts. It's too easy to pull the trigger by accident anyway.

I have always doubted why there should even be a whole UN category devoted to a domestic issue such as gun control. Unless there's this major international impact I'm missing.

Gun control is an international issue because if one nation outlaws or greatly restricts guns, a black market in gun smuggling will develop between that nation and a nation in which guns are easier to come by.
This is another reason why gun control is lax in Cyrian Space. A person intent on shooting someone will likely be able to procure a gun if he wants to. A law abiding citizen should have the ability to defend themself.

I believe myself that guns are okay. The gun laws now should be enforced but not to an extent. We chould look at the real problem before going to an extreme.

We like guns.

In a region overrun by polar bears, guns are our best friend. Well, no - artillery is our best friend, but I'm not giving 155mm field pieces to the general public.

We're not supporting this fearmongering piece of drivel. All proof has shown its ideology to be wrongheaded - and we are not about to start supporting wrongheaded proposals.
damn, we still have to get back to you about that polar bear situation. at the moment, the Resitancian and Kiaonese hunters are ready, just the Frosbitarian hunters are still getting used to riding the Kiaonese Dragons.

back on topic, whilst we look down on private gun ownership here, mainly prefering martial arts as defense, we are against any UN resolution strengthening or relaxing gun control, simply on the basis that we respect other nations ideals surrounding gun control

In Cyrian Space nearly everyone is armed. We like it that way.
Because of this policy, crime is almost non-existant, and a serious strain has been removed from the police force.
A person cannot attempt to commit a violent crime in a public place in Cyrian Space without nearly everyone in the area pulling a gun on them and politely asking them to desist. It seems that when the public at large are fully capable of defending themselves, they are very rarely attacked.

That's just the same as every nation having nukes - nobody else fires because everyone else has similar weapons. Surely it's better nobody has them? Of course, asking them to give them up might be difficult. :)

Dear fellow UN members,

The Republic of Yuunli is a new democratic country that has only recently joined the United Nations.

The laws of the Republic do not permit gun ownership to individual citizens. Only law enforcement and national defense authorities have legal access to guns.

2. ESTABLISHES a "Gun and Safety Protection Organisation" (GASPO), which has the power to do the following tasks:

a). Control gun ownership in their nation.
b). Ensuring that all civilians in the nation are fully educated in gun safety.
c). Maintains full First Aid courses which are manditory for all citizens.
d). Ensuring that all citizens know what they need to do incase they become threatened.
e). Ensuring that all guns are kept to a minimum in the home (only those with special licenses will be allowed to have ownership of a gun).
a) In the Republic of Yuunli, the police is responsible for controlling gun ownership. Help from a supernational entity is appreciated as long as the autonomy of the national police forces is not questioned.

b) The Republic of Yuunli guarantees that all citizens with a permission to use guns are fully educated in gun safety. Only a small number of our citizens have such a permission, though.

c) For their health and safety, the citizens of Yuunli are encouraged to attend first aid courses every few years. However, the parliament has no mandate to force its citizens to attend such courses.

d) We believe it is not possible for a country to "ensure that all citizens know what to do."

e) The laws of the Republic do not allow any guns at home.

The Ambassador of the Republic of Yuunli to the United Nations

I've just been informed by the offices of the President, that civil war has erupted in one of our member dominions... As such, we do not support your proposal at this stage for both ideological and practical reasons....

I've just been informed by the offices of the President, that civil war has erupted in one of our member dominions... As such, we do not support your proposal at this stage for both ideological and practical reasons....

Which side do we send the money to?

Which side do we send the money to?

Well... my own thoughts may be biased on this issue, being in the employment of the Constitutional Republic of Tekania... But you can send support either to the insurgent and self-appointed Theocratic King of Thompsonia and his band of 'rag-tag' supporters (who managed to shoot the Dominion Govenor and slaughter the legislature, and then preceded to go about slaughtering all those in the Dominion who do not swear allegiance to his particularly theonomically based church... not to mention having managed to commendere two Republic Cruisers of the Orion Class) or to the incumbent Federal Republic still presiding over the other 5 dominions of the Republic, attempting to raise forces to liberate the people left in the Thompsonian Dominion from this particular nut-case... I would personally argue, however, that under "Humanitarian Intervention" sending support to the illegal government presiding over the dominion would be a violation of international laws...