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Anti-Nuclear Resolution

Zatarack
01-04-2005, 01:26
The Dictatorship of Zatarack would desire to issue a proposal, but, unfortunately, we lack the endorsments to propose it. This is the proposal

Resolution Title: Anti-Nuclear Weapons Resolution
Class: Global Disarmament
Strength: Strong

As most members of the UN know, nuclear weapons are used as methods of attack by nations. This is a problem, as nuclear weapons are extremely devastating, as they are effective means of genocide and can cause wide-spread and lethal fallout. This resolution seeks to change that.

The Goal: To eliminate all nuclear weapons.

How: By monitering all potential nuclear rescouces, the trade of such rescources, and the production and trade of all delivery means. This shall be controlled by a nation of 5 nations that can enforce this resolution.

The Punishment: If a nation breaks this resolution, the punishment shall be decided by the council of the 5 nations.

What Determines the Council Members: The members shall be among the 50 most powerful eligible nations in the world.
Prohibitions: No nation that has used nuclear weapons may be a member of the council or vote for the members.

The Title of the Council: The United Nation Anti-Nuclear Council (UNAN Council)
DemonLordEnigma
01-04-2005, 01:39
If you hate the UN that much, why don't you just quit?

If you don't hate the UN, consider the following:

1. UN resolutions may only affect UN nations. There is an exception to this, but we won't go into it right now due to the fact I don't feel like having that arguement again.

2. The UN is a minority of the nations.

3. The UN is extremely hated.

4. Many of the people who hate the UN have nukes.

5. In actual destructive output, nukes are among the weakest of weapons available to UN members.

6. Many members feel the appropriate way to dispose of their nuclear stockpiles is by firing them at the nation that wrote the resolution banning them.

7. The top five nations you mention will be able to have nukes and not have anyone stop them.

8. This is one of dozens of attempts, and all of them have failed. There is a reason for this, and it's not just the wording of the resolution.
Cyrian space
01-04-2005, 01:40
Being that we've just perfected a cannon capable of sundering the core of a planet, causing the entire thing to break apart, and that this has nothing to do with outdated nuklear technology, I find this proposal sorely lacking.
Not that anyone would be willing to give up their nukes for a slim chance at world piece, anyway.
Valant
01-04-2005, 04:59
By monitering all potential nuclear rescouces, the trade of such rescources, and the production and trade of all delivery means. This shall be controlled by a nation of 5 nations that can enforce this resolution

And what about nations who's primary income comes in the form of Uranium? With the abolishment of Nuclear wepons the need for U-235 will decrease, causing the income for these nations to decrease drastically.
YGSM
01-04-2005, 05:08
Being that we've just perfected a cannon capable of sundering the core of a planet, causing the entire thing to break apart, and that this has nothing to do with outdated nuklear technology, I find this proposal sorely lacking.
Not that anyone would be willing to give up their nukes for a slim chance at world piece, anyway.
Have you considered participating in a Pretenama Panel?

Your cannon may be counterproductive in preventing human rights abuses, but if you have a powerful military to match it...
Resistancia
01-04-2005, 05:13
i think DLE has summed up this argument best
Hirota
01-04-2005, 10:14
as a nation which relies upon our Uranium mining industry, I can tell you for free that on the eve of any proposal to ban nuclear weapons reaches a vote, we will be dropping en masse a large amount of weapons-grade material packaged in a missile like shape on the capital of the nation guilty of proposing it.
Resistancia
01-04-2005, 10:36
we may not have a nuclear arsnal (yet), but we are a supplier of uranium, thus against this
Tekania
01-04-2005, 15:46
As most members of the UN know, nuclear weapons are used as methods of attack by nations.

That is one method that they can be used for. However, such weapons have other uses. Especially amongst FT nations, where "nukes" are the spaceborn equivalent of dynomite for mining and removal spaceborn debries.

CRoT does not use "nukes" as weapons. Since they are too weak to present much of an effect, overall, compared to more functional arsenals as Quantum, Naquadria and/or Matter-Antimatter based arsenals.


This is a problem, as nuclear weapons are extremely devastating, as they are effective means of genocide and can cause wide-spread and lethal fallout. This resolution seeks to change that.

Nuclear weapons are not all that devestating. The limits to their power only cover a handfull of kilometers. This is opposed to Quantum based weapondry, most of which can devistate entire continents, or sometimes small planetary bodies.


The Goal: To eliminate all nuclear weapons.

I don't see this as a needed goal.


How: By monitering all potential nuclear rescouces, the trade of such rescources, and the production and trade of all delivery means. This shall be controlled by a nation of 5 nations that can enforce this resolution.

I seriously doubt that any five nations that could be called for this instance, and would have enough "enforcement" power, would really be interested in the weapon controls themselves. And how would these "5 nations" be determined? This sounds like it is placing the entire resolution upon the back of a minority, to impose upon the majority. Sounds like Oligarchy to me.


The Punishment: If a nation breaks this resolution, the punishment shall be decided by the council of the 5 nations.

I do not believe that punishment should be decided by such.


What Determines the Council Members: The members shall be among the 50 most powerful eligible nations in the world.
Prohibitions: No nation that has used nuclear weapons may be a member of the council or vote for the members.

What about "other worlds" Not all NSUN member states are on Earth. Some states such as DLE and Tekania are multi-system states which cover more than a few systems and/or planets. And are we to assume, that say, Zatarack, an earthbound state has the power to enforce such restrictions upon any one of the Tekanian member worlds? which is lightyears away? And what about usage of nukes in mining on systems outside of the scope of this galaxy?


The Title of the Council: The United Nation Anti-Nuclear Council (UNAN Council)

Cute...
Druidville
01-04-2005, 16:32
So, in short, you'll let five nations, which already have nukes, keep everyone else from having them? Is this supposed to be a commentary on RW politics or what? And the RW doesn't even work like that anyway.

Can't dream of supporting this one.