NationStates Jolt Archive

our new proposal is entitled, "Ban Missionaries"
it states that we should keep all missionaries at bay, within their countries, to prevent them from making a dent in various cultures. Allow people to think on their own!

It's generally considered polite to post a copy here.Ban Missionaries

A resolution to improve world security by boosting police and military budgets.

Category: International Security
Strength: Strong
Proposed by: LovAmore

Description: Missionaries should only be allowed to stay within their country. If a country doesn't want them there, they should leave, or suffer the consequences, it's called international rights, and they need to be upheld. Ban Missionaries. They promote religious change, which can change an entire culture, when LovAmore, as well as other nations, I'm sure, cares and embraces other cultures. Missionaries bombard these cultures, prevent cultural degredation and ban missionaries.

Voting Ends: Tue Mar 22 2005 International Security? I don't think so. Strong? Hardly.

Sorry, can't support this.

LovAmore, go post a request in the moderation thread to make this mild instead of strong immediately!

It'll get deleted anyway, but won't count against you. Then you can resubmit it.

Regardless, I'll support any version of this. Telegram me any time you resubmit.

Missionaries should only be allowed to stay within their country.

Doesn't that kinda defeat the point of Missionaries?

"You can be a juggler, but... no throwing things around."

Doesn't that kinda defeat the point of Missionaries?

"You can be a juggler, but... no throwing things around."

Hey! That's a good law... now for one about mimes...

Hey! That's a good law... now for one about mimes...

Hmm...

Category: Moral Decency
Strength: Strong
Text:

WHEREAS mimes are not human or sentient and have no right to life;

WHEREAS it would greatly improve the lives of all sentients in the multiverse;

BE IT RESOLVED that all mimes will be killed as soon as possible;

BE IT ALSO RESOLVED that the UN will set up a bounty system for anyone bringing in a mime corpse.

Hmm...

Category: Moral Decency
Strength: Strong
Text:

WHEREAS mimes are not human or sentient and have no right to life;

WHEREAS it would greatly improve the lives of all sentients in the multiverse;

BE IT RESOLVED that all mimes will be killed as soon as possible;

BE IT ALSO RESOLVED that the UN will set up a bounty system for anyone bringing in a mime corpse.

:eek:

Yes, but is it legal enough to submit?

Ban Missionaries

A resolution to improve world security by boosting police and military budgets.

Category: International Security
Strength: Strong
Proposed by: LovAmore

Description: Missionaries should only be allowed to stay within their country. If a country doesn't want them there, they should leave, or suffer the consequences, it's called international rights, and they need to be upheld. Ban Missionaries. They promote religious change, which can change an entire culture, when LovAmore, as well as other nations, I'm sure, cares and embraces other cultures. Missionaries bombard these cultures, prevent cultural degredation and ban missionaries.

Voting Ends: Tue Mar 22 2005

Sorry - no way. Whilst _Myopia_ns aren't generally keen on proselytizing - most of us consider it good for the individual to come to his/her own personal conclusions about the universe - we do hold freedom of religion and freedom of expression very dear, and as such will insist on tolerating missionaries.

Plus, religious and cultural change aren't necessarily bad things.

i actually like this one. while i agree with relgious tolerence, i disagree with ramming it down peoples throats, and that is essentially what missionaries do.

You may dislike preaching, as I do too, but that doesn't mean that it should be outlawed. In the end, theological opinions are just another kind of opinion, like political opinions. Is it really any more justifiable to restrict freedom of expression for religious preaching than it is to restrict it for its political counterparts? Would you consider it ok to ban door-to-door canvassing for political parties, or to ban political speeches?

Hmm...

Category: Moral Decency
Strength: Strong
Text:

WHEREAS mimes are not human or sentient and have no right to life;

WHEREAS it would greatly improve the lives of all sentients in the multiverse;

BE IT RESOLVED that all mimes will be killed as soon as possible;

BE IT ALSO RESOLVED that the UN will set up a bounty system for anyone bringing in a mime corpse.
I'd have to oppose.
Certain individuals in my region would be killing people and putting facepaint on the corpses so they could collect the bounty.

Changing a culture IS a bad thing, because you are letting go of a family tradition, which in all its essence, is the only thing that many families have left. With growing technology, people can at least hold on to themself....This IS allowing people to think for themselves, if they want to change, let them change on their own. :)

Making fun of my proposal will not solve anything but cause tension between our nations, Myopia :D

Changing a culture IS a bad thing, because you are letting go of a family tradition, which in all its essence, is the only thing that many families have left. With growing technology, people can at least hold on to themself....This IS allowing people to think for themselves, if they want to change, let them change on their own. :)
Precisely my objection to the missionary immunity proposal.

I oppose this, however, I do agree that forcing religion upon others would be in violation of a person's right to choose who or what to worship, which church to go to, etc. I strongly advise missionaries in other countries to remember this.

Wouldn't this be more appropriate for "Political Stability" than "International Security?" The description of international security says something about "increasing military spending in all nations." How does banning missionaries do that? If you are aiming at preventing outside ideas from taking root, political stability sounds more apropos.

And I wouldn't vote for it then, either. It infringes on personal freedoms by singling out a specific part of a population. I don't necessarily believe that what missionaries do is good, but I don't think they should be banned from doing it.

Making fun of my proposal will not solve anything but cause tension between our nations, Myopia :D

I wasn't making fun - I was serious. Freedom of expression cannot be denied to one type of idea, or it becomes meaningless.

Changing a culture IS a bad thing, because you are letting go of a family tradition, which in all its essence, is the only thing that many families have left. With growing technology, people can at least hold on to themself....This IS allowing people to think for themselves, if they want to change, let them change on their own.

Religion should be about a search for truth, not about holding onto an opinion just because you've been doing so a long time. Now I'll be the first to admit that many missionaries and preachers don't quite match up to my vision of what theology should be, but the moment you stifle the free exchange of ideas, you do far more damage to individuals' searches for truth than any preacher.

I'd have to oppose.
Certain individuals in my region would be killing people and putting facepaint on the corpses so they could collect the bounty.
What if it were reworded so that in order to collect the bounty the mime had to be brought in alive, then killed after it was proven that it truly was a mime?

What if it were reworded so that in order to collect the bounty the mime had to be brought in alive, then killed after it was proven that it truly was a mime?
There might be problems providing for a fair trial.

I mean, if it's a mime, can it really speak in its own defense?

And how would you know it was really killed, and not just faking the invisible noose?

There might be problems providing for a fair trial.It's a mime, does it really need a fair trial.:D

I mean, if it's a mime, can it really speak in its own defense?Give it a pencil and a piece of paper.

And how would you know it was really killed, and not just faking the invisible noose?
Shoot it.