NationStates Jolt Archive

Category: Free Trade
Strenght: strong.

The text:

I - PREAMBLE

The General Assembly of the United Nations

CONVINCED

that a strong harmonization of national Postal Services shall be an advantage for the entire international communications system,

AUTHORIZES

the creation of an International Post Code (IPC) that identifies any site of the UN State members.


II - THE CODE

§1. The Code shall use a dotted notation, from left ot right, formed by:

1) International State code, given progressively to each country, in alphabetical order;
2) Regional Code, given by the Telecommunications Ministry of belonging State to each regional administrative subdivision;
3) City Code, given by the belonging Region to each City with at least 20,000 inhabitants;
4) District Code, given by the belonging City to each administrative district.

§2. The IPC shall be published by each National Postal Service in a Postal Code Book (from code 1 to code 3), available in each Postal Office of the UN Members States.

§3. The IPC shall be also used as barcode, in order to speed up the sorting process of mail destinations.

Suggestions are welcome!

Nice. I'd approve that.

My only comment is I feel that it's effect would be mild and not strong. That asside, it would have the fullest support of Cobdenia.

Rereading it, I fear that there may be a problem in the length of the postcodes. For UN perposes, it should be just Region (alphabetically) and country within region (alphabetically). If countries so desire, they may add a second postcode for specifics in their country.

Thus it would be, assuming their are 9,999 UN regions and the largest region being 999 countries it would be:
XXXX-XXX

So Cobdenia would be:
7,986-001
(I'm guessing where the LAO is alphabetically; Cobdenia is first alphabetically in the LAO, though)

We believe that the UN has more important issues to deal with than setting up an International Post Code system. It simply adds an unneeded level of beaurecracy. Postal Codes should be a regional issue, not a UN one. Besides, information is exchanged at an extremely rapid rate today, that changing post codes would have limited effect on the rate of, and ease of information exchange. The cost (not to mention the time and energy spent) simply does not outweigh the benifits of this proposal.

my region already has our own postal codes.

sorry, but we have no interest in scrapping them in favor of a system that would exclude many of our member nations.

any code should include non-UN states.

also, we see problems in that the number of nations and the number of regions are constantly increasing.

Better to address mail to me by region name, country name, etc.

Better to address mail to me by region name, country name, etc.

Exactly.

It's also important to remember that, since large numbers of nations are constantly leaving and entering the UN, and since it would be confusing to use numbers that used to belong to ex-members to new members, we would quickly run into very large and difficult-to-remember strings of numbers. The time and bureacraqcy that you think you might save by standardising postcodes would simply be replaced by the massive efforts of looking up numbers to identify places and vice versa, and the creation and maintenance of the massive and easy-to-access databases that would be required.

Simply printing enough books with all of the tens of thousands of nations identified would probably take a medium-sized forest.

We believe that the UN has more important issues to deal with than setting up an International Post Code system. It simply adds an unneeded level of beaurecracy. Postal Codes should be a regional issue, not a UN one. Besides, information is exchanged at an extremely rapid rate today, that changing post codes would have limited effect on the rate of, and ease of information exchange. The cost (not to mention the time and energy spent) simply does not outweigh the benifits of this proposal.


Here here! Hamilcar wishes to identify itself with the statements of Saint Jeanvrin. We must be on guard to the encroachment of 1 world government. Perhaps we should also regulate the use of steroids internationally, across all manner of sport and athletic competition?

One would also need to figure out a good check digit number scheme to make this work...being that there are 100,000+ nations.

Plutophobia fully supports this resolution.

Plutophobia fully supports this resolution.

Why? Do you sell ink? Stamps?

Cannot support this. For one thing, DLE doesn't use conventional mail. We use a system similar to email, but that's out of necessity. Electronic transmissions tend to be faster than letter carriers are, especially when the distances travelled are measured in lightyears. And that's just among DLE territory.

After considering the arguments put forth by other nations, Krioval withdraws its support from this proposal.

Kelssek strongly supports this resolution. The resulting mess, confusion, and breakdown in communications will suit our nefarious schemes nicely.

Uh, I mean, given the number of nations in existance as well as the fact that new ones are constantly appearing and old ones disappearing, this is horrendously impractical. Bad proposal! Bad!

Why? Do you sell ink? Stamps?

Maybe medium-sized forests?

I see no need for international codes. The Postal address for my office is .....

President Murphy,
High Consular Office,
Government Buildings,
Libertaria v1996,
Venerable Libertarians,
The Realm Of Hibernia.


so whats wrong with this address?

It can work, but it also can't.

The idea of this proposal was a RL shipment to me from another country: from NY, USA to Verona, Italy. I don't know how, but Verona was transformed in Norene (sic!) in the address. Only the post code had save my pack to be missed in the incredible postal bureaucracy. :)

It can work, but it also can't.

The idea of this proposal was a RL shipment to me from another country: from NY, USA to Verona, Italy. I don't know how, but Verona was transformed in Norene (sic!) in the address. Only the post code had save my pack to be missed in the incredible postal bureaucracy. :)
wasn't me, man

i agree with those disagreeing with this. this is just another beurocratic waste of time for the UN. this is the UN, not the EU. we dont need to regulate stuff like this. and again, it is one step closer to a central government, which is not what the UN was designed for

i agree with those disagreeing with this. this is just another beurocratic waste of time for the UN. this is the UN, not the EU. we dont need to regulate stuff like this. and again, it is one step closer to a central government, which is not what the UN was designed for

Actually, it was designed for that. That's why UN resolutions override the laws of member nations.

Actually, it was designed for that. That's why UN resolutions override the laws of member nations.
but they have a certain degree of flexability for nations to interpret them. thing is, if the UN was a governing body like a national government, each nation would not be free to interpret the resolutions.

my region already has our own postal codes.

sorry, but we have no interest in scrapping them in favor of a system that would exclude many of our member nations.

any code should include non-UN states.

also, we see problems in that the number of nations and the number of regions are constantly increasing.

Better to address mail to me by region name, country name, etc.

Not bad. I would like to suggest adding, in light of YSGM's post, that any postal codes would still remain in effect either permenatly*Spelling? or for a certain number of years (days NS time).

that a strong harmonization of national Postal Services shall be an advantage for the entire international communications system

What if a country doesn't have a postal code? What about telecommunications uses solely as the "postal" system of a country? What then?

now that i think about it, wasnt there a resolution asking for speedier delivery? but here's a thought: cut out mail altogether! mail can be sent electronically, and parcels by curier(sp?). it could cut down on waiting times, plus save in paper used for letters and envelopes

WellOkay, let's think this through.

Having region codes wouldn't work because countries are able to change regions. Having alphabetically-ordered codes wouldn't work because new countries are founded and old countries cease to exist, and that would play merry hell with an alphabetically ordered coding system.

You need to give countries a unique and permanent code. As there exist over 1,000,000 nations, they need to be seven digit numbers. Seven digits is about as long a string of random numbers that a person can remember without going to any great lengths to memorize, so the seven digit codes will be often forgotten.

Why not drop the idea and just go with the name of the nation? Make the first seven letters of the nation's name, written in block letters, the post code.

Why not drop the idea and just go with the name of the nation? Make the first seven letters of the nation's name, written in block letters, the post code.
And what happens if there are multiple nations where the first seven letters are identical?

And what happens if there are multiple nations where the first seven letters are identical?
What he said. :D

That's a good point. I didn't think of that.

Will ponder a solution. :)