NationStates Jolt Archive

Faithfully submitted to the UN, by yours truly.

My Proposal: (quoted for ease of reading)

Limited Test Ban Treaty
A resolution to increase the quality of the world's environment, at the expense of industry.


Category: Environmental
Industry Affected: Uranium Mining
Proposed by: The Arrogant Bastards

Description: Treaty to ban Atmospheric, Underwater, and Interstellar Nuclear Tests

The Dominion of the Arrogant Bastards,

PROCLAIMING as our principal aim an agreement on general and complete disarmament under strict international control in accordance with the objectives of the United Nations which would put an end to the armaments race and eliminate the incentive to the production and testing of nuclear weapons,

RECOGNIZING that nuclear explosives serve to increase international tension, and that their radioactive fallout presents a great threat to the health of our collective environment,

SEEKING to achieve the discontinuance of all test explosions of nuclear weapons for all time, determined to continue negotiations to this end, and desiring to put an end to the contamination of mans environment by radioactive substances,

Implore all UN Parties as follows:

ARTICLE 1

Each Nation subscribed to this Treaty aims to prohibit any nuclear explosion in lands under their jurisdiction:

a.) In or above the Atmosphere; Underwater, including territorial waters or high seas; or,

b.) In any environment whence subjected to nuclear detonation will result in radioactive fallout contaminating areas outside of their territorial bounds and or jurisdiction.

Nations participating in the Limited Test Ban Treaty also pledge to inhibit and refrain from participating, encouraging, or conducting a nuclear explosion in the environments listed above.


ARTCILE 2

Each Party shall in exercising its national sovereignty have the right to withdraw from the Treaty if it decides that extraordinary events, related to the subject matter of this Treaty, have jeopardized the supreme interests of its country.

This has no bearing on hostile Non-UN states. Considering the threat that they pose, it is not difficult for member states to disregard this proposal under article 2

You're also just going to force nuclear testing underground. People living in mountain communities won't be happy.

Oh, and by the way, what possible problems does testing nuclear weapons in interstellar space cause? Please enlighten me.

ARTCILE 2

Each Party shall in exercising its national sovereignty have the right to withdraw from the Treaty if it decides that extraordinary events, related to the subject matter of this Treaty, have jeopardized the supreme interests of its country.

Illegal. Proposals are not optional.

PROCLAIMING as our principal aim an agreement on general and complete disarmament under strict international control in accordance with the objectives of the United Nations which would put an end to the armaments race and eliminate the incentive to the production and testing of nuclear weapons,

This makes the Proposal read more like "Global Disarmament", not "Environmental".

I would love to prohibit nuclear explosions in lands under my jurisdiction, but that's at least partially up to whoever is firing at me.

Perhaps rewording such that nations can't do testing rather than our lands can't be the location of explosions might help.

Outer Space detonations of Nuclear Weapons have caused in every instance an effect known as EMP: Electromagnetic Pulse. This has caused millions of dollars in damage to sensitive electronic equipment in areas immediately nearby or in the focal point of the blast.

Also, the radioactive fallout, if within the gravitational pull of the earth, will enter our atmosphere. The most dangerous component of which, Strontium 90, is an extremely carcinogenic element which mimics the makeup of Calcium to such an extent that it easily cycles through our food chains.

@ the others:

While it may appear to be Global Disarmament, the test clearly allows underground testing. The main reason is to deter massive increases of contaminated water and air that such devices create.

Ah, but you stated interstellar testing. Interstellar refers to the area of space in between stars. If the radioactive compounds are going to go anywhere from there, they'll be sucked into a star.

or a black hole. However, I believe that this is a good idea. I have no authority to support it, mind you, but I'd rather not see any of Loratana's people hurt by nuclear testing of any kind. However, it's, as has been said, an overall a violation of game mechanics due to the option of dropping out. There is a compromise to the space bit, if Arrogant Bastards gets around to writing a revision, and that is this: Find out how far the radioactive particles go before decelerating to the point that they can easily have their directions changed by solar winds, and dictate that the explosion has to be farther away from any inhabited space station or planet than the radius. Also, an EMP in space will be either absorbed or deflected by the magnetic fields of most planets, so long as it's a few hundred kilometers (I really wanna say miles, but this is the UN and it's supposed to be metric...) outside the edge of the magnetic field, so it's only space-station nations who have to bother with that.

... The following player opinion isn't specifically targeting the Arrogant Bastards, but applies to all who do this as well. This is not an official Moderation opinion and does not reflect the opinions of management or other members of Moderation staff...
Description: Treaty to ban Atmospheric, Underwater, and Interstellar Nuclear Tests

The Dominion of the Arrogant Bastards,

PROCLAIMING ...
Apart from the illegality of "ARTCILE 2" and the various complaints about testing itself, the highlighted portion of this quote is one of my pet peeves. When I was a UN Delegate, I refused to approve any proposal that included an ego-boost line in it.

Check the list of passed resolutions. The author not only gets credit, but gets a link to their nation. Isn't that enough? Do you have to slap an advertisement for your nation in the text of the resolution? The code of law we have created belongs to the NationStates United Nations, not the individual authors.

Stop it with the branding, wouldja?

When I was a UN Delegate, I refused to approve any proposal that included an ego-boost line in it.
Agreed. There's no reason to sign your proposal, or to include your nation's name in the proposal. We can read the "Submitted by" line and know who came up with it.

The Lands of Venerable Libertaria are noted for their expansive natural beauty and Plush green forests. How ever Uranium mining is our prime Industry and has powered our economy to the levels of thriving and Powerhouse. We, as a large nation with a huge population require nuclear power stations and we cant back a proposal which does not garuntee the continued Acceptance and legal use of Uranium for power requirements.

If this is added and amended to the proposal we can give you our support.

or a black hole. However, I believe that this is a good idea. I have no authority to support it, mind you, but I'd rather not see any of Loratana's people hurt by nuclear testing of any kind. However, it's, as has been said, an overall a violation of game mechanics due to the option of dropping out. There is a compromise to the space bit, if Arrogant Bastards gets around to writing a revision, and that is this: Find out how far the radioactive particles go before decelerating to the point that they can easily have their directions changed by solar winds, and dictate that the explosion has to be farther away from any inhabited space station or planet than the radius. Also, an EMP in space will be either absorbed or deflected by the magnetic fields of most planets, so long as it's a few hundred kilometers (I really wanna say miles, but this is the UN and it's supposed to be metric...) outside the edge of the magnetic field, so it's only space-station nations who have to bother with that.
Speaking of which, didn't some nations fire salvos of nuclear missiles at you, while others detonated nuclear devices which had been smuggled into your capital in shipping containers?

One would think your continued presence here is proof that Arrogant Bastard's fearmongering about the effects of fallout is unjustified.

Stop it with the branding, wouldja?Oh, Frissy,
Your so fine,
Your so fine you blow my mind,
Hey Frissy !
Hey Frissy !

* Waves his pom-poms a little bit more and flees before he gets forum banned for pillaging the lyrics of a Song That Should Never Be Sung, :p

* Then goes to set fire to the creators of the last few resolutions that have been " brand'd ".

Oh, Frissy,
Your so fine,
Your so fine you blow my mind,
Hey Frissy !
Hey Frissy !

* Waves his pom-poms a little bit more and flees before he gets forum banned for pillaging the lyrics of a Song That Should Never Be Sung, :p
Komokom! What a wonderful idea!
The mods need some cheerleaders!
*grins eeevilly*
*plots*

Komokom! What a wonderful idea!
The mods need some cheerleaders!
*grins eeevilly*
*plots*
Are you volunteering?:D

Speaking of which, didn't some nations fire salvos of nuclear missiles at you, while others detonated nuclear devices which had been smuggled into your capital in shipping containers?

One would think your continued presence here is proof that Arrogant Bastard's fearmongering about the effects of fallout is unjustified.

Since I know who you are, I'm just going to ignore that, and recommend (sp?) that you not try that again. It's flamebaiting, you know.

Why is it flamebaiting? He's referring to something that happened in NS history, and your continued survival despite fallout is a wonder to behold.

Why is it flamebaiting? He's referring to something that happened in NS history, and your continued survival despite fallout is a wonder to behold.
Thank you. It was in fact intended as a peace offering, of sorts.

But I guess peace is overrated.

Why is it flamebaiting? He's referring to something that happened in NS history, and your continued survival despite fallout is a wonder to behold.

Apparently, it didn't actually happen. It was just a hypothetical situation with named examples. As Loratana's continuing existence proves.

Well, we've successfully made a mockery of this topic... where to next?

my guess would be the Truth In Science proposal, if trolly would finish writing it.