NationStates Jolt Archive


::IMPORTANT:: proposal: Dissolvement of Small Regions

LovAmore
06-03-2005, 20:46
::IMPORTANT::
The greta nation of LovAmore is proposing that the world dissolve regions with 20 members or smaller because they are rpeventing the world from world peace. Though unintentionally, it is happening. We should encourage these smaller regions members to join the larger, more progressive ones. LovAmore calls on the world to join in this march for world peace. Approve our proposal. it is entitled:
Small Regions Dissolvement
Thankyou for your time
-LovAmore-
Gyrotopia
06-03-2005, 20:58
Are you insane? You've got to be kidding me how the hell are small regions preventing world peace? If a region has just started it has less then 20 countries therefore we are banning the creating :sniper: of regions.
Euroslavia
06-03-2005, 21:00
Small regions have absolutely nothing to do with 'world peace', seeing as some people prefer to be in smaller regions, and having more of a voice when it comes to voting on resolutions. This isn't something that the UN has a voice over anyways...
Gyrotopia
06-03-2005, 21:04
Small regions have absolutely nothing to do with 'world peace', seeing as some people prefer to be in smaller regions, and having more of a voice when it comes to voting on resolutions. This isn't something that the UN has a voice over anyways...
Thank you thats what I'm saying. :sniper:
Texan Hotrodders
06-03-2005, 21:10
::IMPORTANT::
The greta nation of LovAmore is proposing that the world dissolve regions with 20 members or smaller because they are rpeventing the world from world peace. Though unintentionally, it is happening. We should encourage these smaller regions members to join the larger, more progressive ones. LovAmore calls on the world to join in this march for world peace. Approve our proposal. it is entitled:
Small Regions Dissolvement
Thankyou for your time
-LovAmore-

::IMPORTANT::

This proposal violates the rules concerning game mechanics.

Status: Illegal
Goobergunchia
06-03-2005, 21:13
Point of Order

I raise a point of order that this proposal would alter the existing game mechanics and should be removed forthwith.

I further suggest that the representative from LovAmore look at the Pacific, the North Pacific, and the East Pacific, and then reconsider their view that these regions are more progressive than the smaller one that I come from.

[Lord] Michael Evif
Goobergunchian UN Ambassador
Founder, Democratic Underground region
Neo-Anarchists
06-03-2005, 22:09
OOC:
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8366739&postcount=213
Resistancia
07-03-2005, 00:10
i agree, this proposal is illegal. while i agree the concept is okay, and maybe it should be 10 nations, not 20, but it violates the rule on game mechanics and, yes, is indeed illegal
Neo-Anarchists
07-03-2005, 00:17
i agree, this proposal is illegal. while i agree the concept is okay, and maybe it should be 10 nations, not 20, but it violates the rule on game mechanics and, yes, is indeed illegal
How is the concept okay?
It would make founding regions impossible, and small regions have literally nothing to do with world peace.
If it were legal, it would still make no sense at all.
Resistancia
07-03-2005, 00:53
How is the concept okay?
It would make founding regions impossible, and small regions have literally nothing to do with world peace.
If it were legal, it would still make no sense at all.
okay, i shoulda put OOC in front. i have to admit, unless there was some lee-way given, yes, it would make it hard to create regions. but i do admit, looking through and seeing so many regions, then seeing them have like only 1 or 2 member states, it makes it hard to trawl through to find regions to join sometimes.

but yes, the proposal is illegal, but maybe the discussion should be held in the nationstates 2 forum as an idea for the next version, if there is going to be one
Neo-Anarchists
07-03-2005, 01:02
okay, i shoulda put OOC in front. i have to admit, unless there was some lee-way given, yes, it would make it hard to create regions. but i do admit, looking through and seeing so many regions, then seeing them have like only 1 or 2 member states, it makes it hard to trawl through to find regions to join sometimes.
Well, the reasoning you are giving was different thaan what s/he said. S/he said that small regions prevent world peace and that large regions are better. Than is a flawed argument.
Resistancia
07-03-2005, 01:48
OOC: as i said, it is OOC. and as i said, this proposal is illegal, so therefore should be removed. and thirdly, as i said, maybe this discussion should be in the Nationstates 2 forum as a suggestion for the next form of the game, if there is one. i know my argument is different from what the person has proposed, but that is because there proposal is IC and my statement/idea is OOC
Nitrotech
07-03-2005, 02:24
Banning smaller regions is just flat out unfair, most regions are built for small groups that THINK ALIKE, and it is not ruining world peace, it is just enhancing the competition, and making things a bit more competitive, besides the more regions there are, the more delegates there are, and the more delegates there are, the more proposals are made to better the UN.
The UN Gnomes
07-03-2005, 03:56
Oh, yes. Quite against the rules. Furthermore, this has been proposed many, many times in the proper manner (ie: posting to Tech), and has been shot down each and every time.

Suffice it to say, this will not happen. Especially not as a UN Proposal.
Cup and Fork
07-03-2005, 04:22
The UN Gnomes have spoken, and I am in full agreement.

However, just to enertertain the idea for a moment, perhaps there could be a set time period in which to meet the X number of nations quota required to meet region status. So, for example, the rules could say, you have 1 month to recruit 20 nations to your region, or it gets shut down.

I still don't think its a good idea though, perhaps some people like having only a few nations. I've got three - and that's just dandy.
Resistancia
07-03-2005, 06:48
The UN Gnomes have spoken, and I am in full agreement.

However, just to enertertain the idea for a moment, perhaps there could be a set time period in which to meet the X number of nations quota required to meet region status. So, for example, the rules could say, you have 1 month to recruit 20 nations to your region, or it gets shut down.

I still don't think its a good idea though, perhaps some people like having only a few nations. I've got three - and that's just dandy.
the thing about a time limit to recruit is what i was talking about. anyway, proposal is illegal, this thread should really be locked
Slap Yo Mama
07-03-2005, 07:26
Being as my region only has 11 nations in it, if this proposal is even considered, we will have to declare war on the UN for being flat out retarded.
Cup and Fork
07-03-2005, 07:55
Well, I also happen to also agree that the N.S.U.N. is flat out retarded.
Slap Yo Mama
07-03-2005, 08:02
That's not what I said. I stated that the acknowledgement of this proposal would be flat out retarded. Since the UN benefits small regions greatly, and the UN is made up of large numbers of small regions, it would be like dismantling the UN from within. Of course this would be great if you were trying to overthrow the UN and form some sort of world wide dictatorship.
Vastiva
07-03-2005, 08:45
Well, I also happen to also agree that the N.S.U.N. is flat out retarded.

Might we offer you another helping of sour grapes?
Cup and Fork
07-03-2005, 09:25
Might we offer you another helping of sour grapes?

Yeah, I can't get enough.
Resistancia
07-03-2005, 09:29
since the proposal IS illegal, we shouldnt bother discussing it here.
*waits for a mod to lock the thread*
Frisbeeteria
07-03-2005, 13:35
since the proposal IS illegal, we shouldnt bother discussing it here.
*waits for a mod to lock the thread*
It's not illegal to talk about illegal proprosals. Sometimes something legal and pretty decent comes out of the discussion.
Komokom
07-03-2005, 14:04
Oh, yes. Quite against the rules. Furthermore, this has been proposed many, many times in the proper manner (ie: posting to Tech), and has been shot down each and every time.

Suffice it to say, this will not happen. Especially not as a UN Proposal.Surely since its been smoked to conclusion it could be locked any-way considering all its really else-wise done is drag on with folks calling the U.N. " retarded ", which I'd like to remind some people is actually calling the members of the U.N. a bunch of retards. Which probably includes you, and certainly includes me.

So excuse me if I take mild offence at that , but can't really express it as calling certain people here a small gathering of short-sighted pricks who couldn't accurately fire off an insult at an ego the size of the broad side of a barn, judging by what I've seen here, how my eyes must bleed because of which. Of course, since I don't want a warning for any such base a reason, I can't say that. So you can rest easy, can't you.

( Other-wise Cup and Fork might throw up, I think those grapes their forcing down have gone off, I just hope Vastiva has a better skill at judging cheese then fruit ;) )
Myrth
07-03-2005, 14:19
Not
going
to
happen
.