NationStates Jolt Archive


Subsidized Sex Industry

Flesh Eating Carnies
03-03-2005, 02:42
Subsidized Sex Industry
A resolution to restrict civil freedoms in the interest of moral decency.


Category: Moral Decency
Strength: Significant
Proposed by: Flesh Eating Carnies

Description: We should subsidize the sex industry. Before you say, thats a horrible idea, heres the logic behind it. Not everyone in this world can attract a mate, and this creates unhappiness. If you cannot attract someone, nor afford to buy a prostitute to fulfill what is a completely natural urge, this creates even more unhappiness. If the government subsidized the sex industry, having government run brothels, then you could solve this problem, therefore, happiness would increase as would productivity. We all know that a happy worker is a harder working worker.

Other benefits this would have

1. The drastic reduction in STD's. All workers at the brothel would have to undergo mandatory testing weekly.

2. Reduction of women on the street. They would not be able to compete, after all, we are the government.

3. Safety of sex workers. It would be a far safer environment, no more abductions, or serial killers murdering prostitutes.

4. Fair wages for sex workers. No more pimps taking all of their earnings.



This proposal deserves to go before all to vote on, delegates, get your support behind it
Krioval
03-03-2005, 03:34
Resolution #91 sound familiar? Granted it doesn't compel the government to nationalize the sex industry like your resolution appears to do, but then, I like to leave the issue of state control versus private control of the economy to individual nations in cases like this.

Krioval cannot support this resolution as a result.
Venerable libertarians
03-03-2005, 03:48
I am afraid i am totally against any kind of legalised sex industry. the fact that there is a resolution allowing it ticks me off. That said, it would be impossible for my nation to add to that by allowing your proposal, and i would be steering my region against it also.

Description: We should subsidize the sex industry. Before you say, thats a horrible idea, heres the logic behind it. Not everyone in this world can attract a mate, and this creates unhappiness. If you cannot attract someone, nor afford to buy a prostitute to fulfill what is a completely natural urge, this creates even more unhappiness. If the government subsidized the sex industry, having government run brothels, then you could solve this problem, therefore, happiness would increase as would productivity. We all know that a happy worker is a harder working worker.

Now this is just daft, are you so nieve to believe you would boost the moral of the populations of the UN Nations. This has the wrong category. it should be free trade. lol. A happy worker is a harder working worker, Indeed!

Of the benifits you list, points 1,2 and 4 are fair enough as they try to protect the worker.

3. Safety of sex workers. It would be a far safer environment, no more abductions, or serial killers murdering prostitutes.

Ok, the prossies are safe in the workplace! but to my knowledge, Prossie abductors and Killers dont do it in the brothels. They occur mostly outside on the street. and then to where ever the evil act can be completed in privacy.
Flesh Eating Carnies
03-03-2005, 03:59
I am afraid i am totally against any kind of legalised sex industry. the fact that there is a resolution allowing it ticks me off. That said, it would be impossible for my nation to add to that by allowing your proposal, and i would be steering my region against it also.



Now this is just daft, are you so nieve to believe you would boost the moral of the populations of the UN Nations. This has the wrong category. it should be free trade. lol. A happy worker is a harder working worker, Indeed!

Of the benifits you list, points 1,2 and 4 are fair enough as they try to protect the worker.



Ok, the prossies are safe in the workplace! but to my knowledge, Prossie abductors and Killers dont do it in the brothels. They occur mostly outside on the street. and then to where ever the evil act can be completed in privacy.

you see, there would no longer be sex workers on the street, only in brothels, henceforth, no more abductions.
Venerable libertarians
03-03-2005, 04:09
you see, there would no longer be sex workers on the street, only in brothels, henceforth, no more abductions.


What, you mean to say they will never leave the brothels? Live in the Brothels? Perhaps in cages? With CCTV poised on them at all times and Armed security 24/7?

Daft!
Vastiva
03-03-2005, 04:14
Subsidized Sex Industry
A resolution to restrict civil freedoms in the interest of moral decency.


Category: Moral Decency
Strength: Significant
Proposed by: Flesh Eating Carnies

Description: We should subsidize the sex industry. Before you say, thats a horrible idea, heres the logic behind it. Not everyone in this world can attract a mate, and this creates unhappiness. If you cannot attract someone, nor afford to buy a prostitute to fulfill what is a completely natural urge, this creates even more unhappiness. If the government subsidized the sex industry, having government run brothels, then you could solve this problem, therefore, happiness would increase as would productivity. We all know that a happy worker is a harder working worker.

Other benefits this would have

1. The drastic reduction in STD's. All workers at the brothel would have to undergo mandatory testing weekly.

2. Reduction of women on the street. They would not be able to compete, after all, we are the government.

3. Safety of sex workers. It would be a far safer environment, no more abductions, or serial killers murdering prostitutes.

4. Fair wages for sex workers. No more pimps taking all of their earnings.



This proposal deserves to go before all to vote on, delegates, get your support behind it

Well, here's a quandry and a half.

By law, the Sultan - who is the State of Vastiva - owns 50.1% of all businesses in Vastiva. No exceptions.

Is the "sex industry" subsidized? No. It doesn't need subsidys. It is by far one of our most profitable industries.

However, if you look at it through the law, the brothels are essentially run by the government... or at least "The State of Vastiva".

Very interesting.

As to your other points:


1. The drastic reduction in STD's. All workers at the brothel would have to undergo mandatory testing weekly.

National Law takes care of this in Vastiva.



2. Reduction of women on the street. They would not be able to compete, after all, we are the government.

Well, they are essentially already working for the government - we license prostitutes, we tax them, they indirectly add to the tax base with taxi, hotel, food, "equipment", and other facets being taxed.



3. Safety of sex workers. It would be a far safer environment, no more abductions, or serial killers murdering prostitutes.

Given our omnipresent cameras and police force, this hasn't been a problem as yet. Being legal workers, prostitutes are far from the "easy prey" they are elsewhere.



4. Fair wages for sex workers. No more pimps taking all of their earnings.


"Madams" are legal. "Pimps" are not. These are not meant as sexist terms, but ideological ones. Providing a "place of business" is not illegal. However, the "take" is limited by law - and attempts to "weasel" or "push the take" are quickly rewarded with one-way trips to the sharks.

After all, the biggest cut goes to the State, and the Sultan is very jealous about his cut.
Nauvus
03-03-2005, 04:23
This would probably be better as an issue, actually.
Asshelmetta
03-03-2005, 05:19
Would I still be able to pay a extra for the most accomplished, or most desirable, prostitutes?

Because otherwise I'm not supporting it. I've got much more money to spend on these things than most men, and I'm totally opposed to any legislation which would take away that advantage.
Flesh Eating Carnies
03-03-2005, 05:24
Would I still be able to pay a extra for the most accomplished, or most desirable, prostitutes?

Because otherwise I'm not supporting it. I've got much more money to spend on these things than most men, and I'm totally opposed to any legislation which would take away that advantage.


yes, you could still have the more desirable prostitutes for more money. Its like subsidized housing, if you make enough money, you can still buy the best, but if you don't, well help you pay the rent.
Resistancia
03-03-2005, 12:23
the Rogue State of Resistancia believes that the sex industry should not be subsidised. the workers make enough money as it is, so subsidisation is not necessary. the money should be spent more on educating people about sex and what steps are needed to prevent these deseases
The Irish Brotherhood
03-03-2005, 12:38
I am afraid i am totally against any kind of legalised sex industry. the fact that there is a resolution allowing it ticks me off. That said, it would be impossible for my nation to add to that by allowing your proposal, and i would be steering my region against it also.



Now this is just daft, are you so nieve to believe you would boost the moral of the populations of the UN Nations. This has the wrong category. it should be free trade. lol. A happy worker is a harder working worker, Indeed!

Of the benifits you list, points 1,2 and 4 are fair enough as they try to protect the worker.



Ok, the prossies are safe in the workplace! but to my knowledge, Prossie abductors and Killers dont do it in the brothels. They occur mostly outside on the street. and then to where ever the evil act can be completed in privacy.

Evil act? How is selling your body to somebody an evil act? Sex is a completely natural human urge. Except these women have the smarts to ask for money and the men happily agree. Whats evil about that? Granted, it should happen behind closed doors and not in cars or down some alleyway. How can any government stop someone from having sex? And what is so different from a woman being chatted up from some guy at a bar? He buys her drinks for the night, they leave, he pays for the taxi and they go home and have sex. He has technically paid that woman for the night, by buying her drinks and the taxi. It is no different.
Venerable libertarians
03-03-2005, 14:14
Evil act? How is selling your body to somebody an evil act? Sex is a completely natural human urge. Except these women have the smarts to ask for money and the men happily agree. Whats evil about that? Granted, it should happen behind closed doors and not in cars or down some alleyway. How can any government stop someone from having sex? And what is so different from a woman being chatted up from some guy at a bar? He buys her drinks for the night, they leave, he pays for the taxi and they go home and have sex. He has technically paid that woman for the night, by buying her drinks and the taxi. It is no different.

The evil act i was refering to was the Abduction of and murder of a prostitute.
Bahgum
03-03-2005, 23:29
Buy one get one free? Discount vouchers even...
Cup and Fork
04-03-2005, 08:47
This proposal gives a whole new slant on 'wage slave'.
Vastiva
04-03-2005, 09:15
"Wage" we understand, but perhaps you could enlighten us as to where the "slave" part fits in.