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Hello, the closest resolution I have seen to this is the ballast water resolution, but it is still different, should my nation submit it?
I have been endorsed by Greater Munich and Polarris.

The Clean Water Resolution

A Resolution To Protect Our Health And Environment At The Expense Of Industry.

CATEGORY: Environmental/Health
INDUSTRY AFFECTED: Waste-Producing Industries
PROPSED BY: The Republic of Graf von Zeppelin
ENDORSED BY: Greater Munich, Polarris

DESCRIPTION: Many factories and power plants release waste and other pollutants into the water supply of many nations. This causes great harm to the environment, and many times, to the citizens of the nation as well. It is very expensive to create large distillation plants to turn harmful and polluted water into safe drinking water for entire nations, let alone regions. The water can contain lead and other pollutants that have been linked to various symptoms including brain damage, heart disease, birth defections and even death.

The NationStates and United Nations,

OBSERVING: That dumping waste materials into rives and lakes is a cost-efficient way for large industries to get rid of waste.

REALIZING: That it is necessary for businesses to have a positive profit, and that businesses would have to increase the price of their product or cut wages or other costs if they were to spend extra money on waste disposal.

AWARE: That polluted water causes great harm to the environment and is responsible for a wide variety of negative symptoms when consumed.

CONCERNED: That many people of a nation would consume harmful water and become victim to the deadly symptoms, and that it could cause an imbalance in the ecosystem if it killed off a water-dwelling species or plant.

NOTING: That the polluted water would kill many fish, thus causing the decline of the commercial fishing industry. It would also kill many endangered species.

RECCOMENDS: That the government of the nation pays the cost of proper disposal of the waste, thus protecting industry, health, and the environment. This would allow the citizens and businesses save money, and therefore spend money to help the economy.

I like this proposal, I generaly like anything that realistically improoves the environment.

However, I think that a poluting business should be held accountable for its own waste and heavy penalties should be sanctioned against polluters. Governments have enough to pay out for from their coffers and forcing companies to clean up their act would promote developement of cleaner Industry.

Change things so the onus is on the Industrialists, not the UN or Governments, and i can safely say i can get this proposal approved by Our Delegate and ratified by my regions members at a vote.

The UN's role and that of Government should be as monitor and enforcer when the polluters strike!

*sigh* not willing to leave anything to national authorities anymore, are we?
I think I'll propose a jaywalking resolution.

My big problem with this proposal is that "factories and power plants" aren't the main problem.

Runoff of agricultural fertilizer is the single biggest threat to clean water supplies in any developed nation.

Animal waste is usually the second biggest contributor to frsh water pollution.

Power plants don't generally pollute water, except maybe by acid rain.


And I agree with what Venerable Libertarians said. The industries doing the polluting should pay the cost. It is a bad (bad, as in "immoral") idea to take away their responsibility for the pollution they cause. It will only encourage them to pollute more freely.

The Oppressed Peoples of Asshelmetta oppose this resolution.

You make good points, and I think I will have to change that point to make it the business's responsibility. I will also make it say "and other industries" along with factories, so everything is included, because as you said, many things contribute.

Would that fix it?

It would fix it for me. I could maybe get the revision approved by my current delegate now... but I might end up as the new delegate soon thanks to CENA's regional elections. If I lose, my opponents would probably back this anyway, if I brought it to their attention.

Just saw this in the proposal queue


Water Distribution

A resolution to reduce barriers to free trade and commerce.


Category: Free Trade

Strength: Strong

Proposed by: Emenentia

Description: Resolution: Water from cross-border water resources such as aquifers and rivers should be distributed among countries proportional to their population,

Perambulatory:

Keeping in mind Patterns of freshwater use have harmful effects on the environment bearing in mind:

• Industries release nutrients such as nitrogen and phosphorus into lakes and rivers, causing rapid growth of algae and contaminating the water,
• Over-fishing, irrigation, and pollution lead to the destruction of habitat of freshwater wildlife; and a corresponding decrease in biodiversity,
• Human activities are leading to the depletion of aquifers and the pollution of groundwater,

Considering economics, with concern for:
• The Canadian government is putting a price tag on the country’s freshwater resources,
• Freshwater is needed for growing cash crops, such as cotton near the Aral Sea in Central Asia,
• Freshwater is transported to urban areas in order to support industry and settlement,

Cognizant of political problems with aquifers and main fresh water resources, especially issues such as:

• Israel and Palestine must agree on a plan to share freshwater resources such as the Jordan River and the Gaza aquifer,
• Iraq’s two main freshwater sources, the Tigris and Euphrates rivers, originate in Turkey and flow through Syria and/or Iran,
• India and Bangladesh are vying for control of freshwater from the Ganges River in order to support their large and rapidly growing populations,

Clauses:
1. Invites countries to accord to new environmental agreements, such as the Kyoto protocol, in order to resolve, or help slow down the degradation of our natural resources;
2. Requests that countries begin to aggressively take charge in protecting water as a natural resource;
3. Deplores countries which over consume their water resources;
4. Decides that fair distribution of water resources is the best way to ensure that the declaration of human rights adopted and proclaimed by General Assembly resolution 217 A (III) of 10 December 1948 are upheld, particularly article 25;
5. Emphasizes on the requirement of fair distribution of this resource for betterment of the world, and to help quail water shortages in regions with high population and low amount of resources;
6. Calls upon the UN economic and social committees to proscribe a control system for political problems.
7. Condemns current status quo, and inaction in the face of a grave future problem
8. Welcomes all nations to share its resources, in order to control low quality of life.
9. Strongly Urges the nations to rapidly streamline and coincide with the UNRWA to ensure water shortages do not cause epidemics, currently in regions affected by the Indonesian earthquake.

Approvals: 9 (Park Slope-estan, Gaiah, Cihlar, Benignant Neglect, Monadnock, Noxx, WZ Forums, Al-Zar, Markodonia)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 139 more approvals)

Voting Ends: Sat Mar 5 2005

Water Distribution

A resolution to reduce barriers to free trade and commerce.


Category: Free Trade

Strength: Strong

Proposed by: Emenentia

Description: Resolution: Water from cross-border water resources such as aquifers and rivers should be distributed among countries proportional to their population,

Perambulatory:

Keeping in mind Patterns of freshwater use have harmful effects on the environment bearing in mind:

• Industries release nutrients such as nitrogen and phosphorus into lakes and rivers, causing rapid growth of algae and contaminating the water,
• Over-fishing, irrigation, and pollution lead to the destruction of habitat of freshwater wildlife; and a corresponding decrease in biodiversity,
• Human activities are leading to the depletion of aquifers and the pollution of groundwater,

Considering economics, with concern for:
• The Canadian government is putting a price tag on the country’s freshwater resources,
• Freshwater is needed for growing cash crops, such as cotton near the Aral Sea in Central Asia,
• Freshwater is transported to urban areas in order to support industry and settlement,

Cognizant of political problems with aquifers and main fresh water resources, especially issues such as:

• Israel and Palestine must agree on a plan to share freshwater resources such as the Jordan River and the Gaza aquifer,
• Iraq’s two main freshwater sources, the Tigris and Euphrates rivers, originate in Turkey and flow through Syria and/or Iran,
• India and Bangladesh are vying for control of freshwater from the Ganges River in order to support their large and rapidly growing populations,

Clauses:
1. Invites countries to accord to new environmental agreements, such as the Kyoto protocol, in order to resolve, or help slow down the degradation of our natural resources;
2. Requests that countries begin to aggressively take charge in protecting water as a natural resource;
3. Deplores countries which over consume their water resources;
4. Decides that fair distribution of water resources is the best way to ensure that the declaration of human rights adopted and proclaimed by General Assembly resolution 217 A (III) of 10 December 1948 are upheld, particularly article 25;
5. Emphasizes on the requirement of fair distribution of this resource for betterment of the world, and to help quail water shortages in regions with high population and low amount of resources;
6. Calls upon the UN economic and social committees to proscribe a control system for political problems.
7. Condemns current status quo, and inaction in the face of a grave future problem
8. Welcomes all nations to share its resources, in order to control low quality of life.
9. Strongly Urges the nations to rapidly streamline and coincide with the UNRWA to ensure water shortages do not cause epidemics, currently in regions affected by the Indonesian earthquake.

Approvals: 9 (Park Slope-estan, Gaiah, Cihlar, Benignant Neglect, Monadnock, Noxx, WZ Forums, Al-Zar, Markodonia)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 139 more approvals)

Voting Ends: Sat Mar 5 2005
Good Lord, this is one of the most illegal proposals I've ever seen. Apparently the author doesn't realize that this is the NationStates UN not the real life UN.

*sigh* not willing to leave anything to national authorities anymore, are we?
I think I'll propose a jaywalking resolution.

My big problem with this proposal is that "factories and power plants" aren't the main problem.

Runoff of agricultural fertilizer is the single biggest threat to clean water supplies in any developed nation.

Animal waste is usually the second biggest contributor to frsh water pollution.

Power plants don't generally pollute water, except maybe by acid rain.


You need to distinguish between point and non-point sources then be able to quantify the impact for each within an order of magnitude. Easy for one, not the other. Problem is that agriculture is considered part of the other.

Note: Industrialized countries require the use of basins with respect to animal waste. Industrialized countries also have stringent requirements on dilutions of applications to field crops. Agriculture is a source, yes, but your claim is erroneous. Compare agriculture (Fertilizer, pesticide, fungicides, etc..) in industrialized countries to that of cities as non-point sources. Cities are worse.

The resolution looks good except for the part were the Goverment foots the bill for the proper disposal of the waste. That could create an economic slump in developing nation because taxes would have to be raised. High taxes could kill the offending industry. However if the expences were shared by the industry and the Goverment, or if the charges of disposal were to be spread out over a peroid of time, it would keep taxes low, jobhs for the workers, and pay about the same.

I have revised a few details to what your nations have mentioned. Is it fine now? (OOC: How do I get this on the UN proposals list?)

The Clean Water Resolution

A Resolution To Protect Our Health And Environment At The Expense Of Industry.

CATEGORY: Environmental/Health
INDUSTRY AFFECTED: Waste-Producing Industries
PROPSED BY: The Republic of Graf von Zeppelin
ENDORSED BY: Greater Munich, Polarris

DESCRIPTION: Many businesses, including farms, factories and nuclear power plants release waste and other pollutants into the water supply of many nations. This causes great harm to the environment, and many times, to the citizens of the nation as well. It is very expensive to create large distillation plants to turn harmful and polluted water into safe drinking water for entire nations, let alone regions. The water can contain lead and other pollutants that have been linked to various symptoms including brain damage, heart disease, birth defections and even death.

The NationStates and United Nations,

OBSERVING: That dumping waste materials into rives and lakes is a cost-efficient way for large industries to get rid of waste.

REALIZING: That it is necessary for businesses to have a positive profit, and that businesses would have to increase the price of their product or cut wages or other costs if they were to spend extra money on waste disposal.

AWARE: That polluted water causes great harm to the environment and is responsible for a wide variety of negative symptoms when consumed.

CONCERNED: That many people of a nation would consume harmful water and become victim to the deadly symptoms, and that it could cause an imbalance in the ecosystem if it killed off a water-dwelling species or plant.

NOTING: That the polluted water would kill many fish, thus causing the decline of the commercial fishing industry. It would also kill many endangered species.

RECCOMENDS: That the business causing the pollution pays for the proper disposal of waste, and clean the polluted water if possible. In the case of harmful animal and plant fertilizers, the businesses must create a basin for the chemicals to run off into instead of the water supply.

To submit a UN Proposal, click here (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=UN_new_proposal).

Ok, my nations proposal is now on the list. It is at the end now, called "Clean Water".

Next time around, change "RECOMMENDS" in the last clause to "MANDATES" and the Oppressed Peoples of Asshelmetta will support.

I'd support it now, but elections aren't over yet. If I win, I'll support it. If I lose I'll bring it to the winner's attention.

The Rogue State of Resitancia supports this proposal. we may have a large Uranium industry, but we do have an onis on maintaining our environment and the cleanlieness of our water. water is, and always will be, a valuable resource to human beings and animals alike, and we recognise that at times this resource can be finite, especially when polluted

OBSERVING: That dumping waste materials into rives and lakes is a cost-efficient way for large industries to get rid of waste.


Considering the fines and executions which occur for attempting this in Vastiva, the statement is very false.

We really do not like your resolution as we are not interested in paying for more projects.

Considering the fines and executions which occur for attempting this in Vastiva, the statement is very false.

We really do not like your resolution as we are not interested in paying for more projects.

Understandable. Thankyou for reading it though.

While The Rogue Nation of Flibbleites likes this resolution, we will not be giving it our approval as we feel that the UN has more than enough envrionmental resolutions on the books already (besides we're currently trying to improve our economy right now and this would only hurt it).

after review, the Rogue State of Resistancia has withdrawn its support from this proposal. there is already enough resolutions governing water. actually, it is our belief that the there is too many. maybe a review and proposal submission to encompass all the resolutions might be better, especially in streamlining the resolution, and reducing the clutter of multiple resolutions on similar topics.