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I urge you to support this proposal:



International Solidarity
A resolution to improve world security by boosting police and military budgets.


Category: International Security
Strength: Significant
Proposed by: Syawla

Description: NOTICING that there are national and multinational groups who conduct acts of violence or terrorism against sovereign states.

RECOGNIZING that some such groups enlist and rely on the support of certain sovereign states for recruitment, funds or moral standing.

URGES member nations to enact the following:

1. All member states systematically denounce any terrorist acts committed against another sovereign state regardless of the cause of that terrorist body.

2. All states cease to in anyway further the cause of any such organisation by any means.

3. States that violate this law are subject to the sanctioning powers of the UN.

Approvals: 14 (Arendstan, Gaiah, Proletarian Continents, Zhukhistan, The Kingsland, Maraque, WZ Forums, Malagassia, Monadnock, One North, Golden Rangeria, Benignant Neglect, Great Mertonia, Nan Og)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 133 more approvals)

Voting Ends: Sun Feb 27 2005

What is terrorism? One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. This proposal should die because it is too vague to function.

What is terrorism? One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. This proposal should die because it is too vague to function.

The UN would decide what constituted a terrorist.

The UN would decide what constituted a terrorist.

The UN has no way of doing that. Also your proposal bans any act of violence upon a sovereign state, which is just sheer insanity because many sovereign states need to be violently opposed.

And you can't force nations to spend more on police and the military. It's their choice.

The UN has no way of doing that. Also your proposal bans any act of violence upon a sovereign state, which is just sheer insanity because many sovereign states need to be violently opposed.

That's another issue.

Does our glorious leader's Mother in Law count as a terrorist? A positive response could sway his delegatory vote.....

That's another issue.

No, it isn't. Your poorly written proposal is this vague.

1. All member states systematically denounce any terrorist acts committed against another sovereign state regardless of the cause of that terrorist body

The President is a busy man and does not have time to research and denounce all the terrorist acts that undoubtedly occur across the NSUN. Besides, some of these states need to have their nuclear facilities blown up by vigilantes.

The revolutionaries that threw off our colonial oppressors to found _Myopia_ were denounced as terrorists at the time. We support many insurrectionist groups around the world who fight against oppressive governments; they too are labelled terrorists by the states they oppose.

Your proposal effectively forces us to accept as legitmate all governments, no matter how evil, in the face of opposition from their victims.

The Conferederacy of Eltaco also finds this act too vague, for just denouncing someone without knowing their reason would only make the supposed terrorist problem larger.

The Confederacy of Eltaco and the fellow nations of Preoria won't accept this proposal.

You should have maybe put terrorist attacks against civilians? Because, that's what terrorists do.. is attack civilians.. that's what makes them terrifying. They take up arms against the unarmed. That to me is the definition of a terrorist, a person who attacks civil targets to cause terror.

Many military operations by states include attacks on non-military facilities, such as infrastructure or industry, which can be legitimate targets. Furthermore, since governments are also composed of non-military - and therefore civilian - personell, your suggestion would still end up making terrorists of those who violently oppose oppressive states.

I urge you to support this proposal:



International Solidarity
A resolution to improve world security by boosting police and military budgets.


Category: International Security
Strength: Significant
Proposed by: Syawla

Description: NOTICING that there are national and multinational groups who conduct acts of violence or terrorism against sovereign states.

RECOGNIZING that some such groups enlist and rely on the support of certain sovereign states for recruitment, funds or moral standing.

URGES member nations to enact the following:

1. All member states systematically denounce any terrorist acts committed against another sovereign state regardless of the cause of that terrorist body.

2. All states cease to in anyway further the cause of any such organisation by any means.

3. States that violate this law are subject to the sanctioning powers of the UN.

Approvals: 14 (Arendstan, Gaiah, Proletarian Continents, Zhukhistan, The Kingsland, Maraque, WZ Forums, Malagassia, Monadnock, One North, Golden Rangeria, Benignant Neglect, Great Mertonia, Nan Og)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 133 more approvals)

Voting Ends: Sun Feb 27 2005





My government was founded after a long series of events that were denounced as "terrorism" at the time, and yet every member of my nation now agrees that they were a necessary thing and all in all a good thing.

Terrorism is in the eye of the beholder, and to ask me to denounce every act, and to stop if someone denounces my acts as terrorism, means that anything I do could be subject to UN intervention. Which is completely unacceptable.

You should have maybe put terrorist attacks against civilians? Because, that's what terrorists do.. is attack civilians.. that's what makes them terrifying. They take up arms against the unarmed. That to me is the definition of a terrorist, a person who attacks civil targets to cause terror.

Actually they can just threaten to attack civil targets, without having to actually carry it through. That works to scare the crap out of people as well.

And you can't force nations to spend more on police and the military. It's their choice.

Yes you can. That's part of what a Resolution does.

Terrorism/insurection will always occur, in spite of any resolution we can ever write. My nation has never had a violent uprising as the chains of imperialism gradually weakend until the capitalists had no choice but to step aside. Violence is not the most pleasant thing and should be avoided. That being said, there are times in which violence prevents greater evils against life.
We will not support this.

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