NationStates Jolt Archive

I have a repeal!

Recalling the Sex Industry Act

1. Prostitution has been considered immoral by many and should not be promoted.

2. Ever heard of STD's? Well no matter the amount of regulations they will still run rampant, how long does an HIV check up take? Only about 24 hours but how many times could a prostitute have sex in that time? Also it takes about six months for the anti-bodies which are used for the scan to show up making the test faulty and possibly incorrect?

3. Legalizing prostitution is another way if increasing illegal drug use. This affects not only the populace but also the economy, who wants to find a factory worker who has a part time job as a gay stoned prostitute? Medical studies show that people who have low self esteem are more likely to take drugs, and what is prostitution but a way of saying that you have low self esteem.

4. Big business/corporations and CEOs already take advantages of loopholes in the tax structure, what makes you think that Pimps and prostitution will be any different?

5. Resolution #91 denies the right of all nations to decide for themselves whether they want prostitution to be legal.

THEREFORE, THIS PROPOSAL HEREBY RENDERS RESOLUTION #91 TO BE NULL, VOID, AND IRRELEVANT IN ALL UN MEMBER NATIONS.

OOC: Just advertising, so I hope you all Endorse it. Its on pg 15 of the proposals FYI.

I have a repeal!

Recalling the Sex Industry Act

1. Prostitution has been considered immoral by many and should not be promoted.

2. Ever heard of STD's? Well no matter the amount of regulations they will still run rampant, how long does an HIV check up take? Only about 24 hours but how many times could a prostitute have sex in that time? Also it takes about six months for the anti-bodies which are used for the scan to show up making the test faulty and possibly incorrect?

3. Legalizing prostitution is another way if increasing illegal drug use. This affects not only the populace but also the economy, who wants to find a factory worker who has a part time job as a gay stoned prostitute? Medical studies show that people who have low self esteem are more likely to take drugs, and what is prostitution but a way of saying that you have low self esteem.

4. Big business/corporations and CEOs already take advantages of loopholes in the tax structure, what makes you think that Pimps and prostitution will be any different?

5. Resolution #91 denies the right of all nations to decide for themselves whether they want prostitution to be legal.

THEREFORE, THIS PROPOSAL HEREBY RENDERS RESOLUTION #91 TO BE NULL, VOID, AND IRRELEVANT IN ALL UN MEMBER NATIONS.

OOC: Just advertising, so I hope you all Endorse it. Its on pg 15 of the proposals FYI.

I have a repeal!

Recalling the Sex Industry Act

1. Prostitution has been considered immoral by many and should not be promoted.


Why?


2. Ever heard of STD's? Well no matter the amount of regulations they will still run rampant, how long does an HIV check up take? Only about 24 hours but how many times could a prostitute have sex in that time? Also it takes about six months for the anti-bodies which are used for the scan to show up making the test faulty and possibly incorrect?


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3. Legalizing prostitution is another way if increasing illegal drug use. This affects not only the populace but also the economy, who wants to find a factory worker who has a part time job as a gay stoned prostitute? Medical studies show that people who have low self esteem are more likely to take drugs, and what is prostitution but a way of saying that you have low self esteem.


Erm - why? That is the most insane link I have ever seen!


4. Big business/corporations and CEOs already take advantages of loopholes in the tax structure, what makes you think that Pimps and prostitution will be any different?


And if it's illegal that will change how?


5. Resolution #91 denies the right of all nations to decide for themselves whether they want prostitution to be legal.


And I think the people of the nations should decide.


THEREFORE, THIS PROPOSAL HEREBY RENDERS RESOLUTION #91 TO BE NULL, VOID, AND IRRELEVANT IN ALL UN MEMBER NATIONS.


Erm - not so much. No.

Why are there two posts for this?

1. Prostitution has been considered immoral by many and should not be promoted.

Morality arguement, no logic behind it. Irrelevant.

2. Ever heard of STD's? Well no matter the amount of regulations they will still run rampant, how long does an HIV check up take? Only about 24 hours but how many times could a prostitute have sex in that time? Also it takes about six months for the anti-bodies which are used for the scan to show up making the test faulty and possibly incorrect?

Specialized condoms and making it a point to design an enzyme that reacts to HIV will help there. I've got one that is purely modern tech in level.

3. Legalizing prostitution is another way if increasing illegal drug use. This affects not only the populace but also the economy, who wants to find a factory worker who has a part time job as a gay stoned prostitute? Medical studies show that people who have low self esteem are more likely to take drugs, and what is prostitution but a way of saying that you have low self esteem.

Or it's a way of saying you like sex enough you wish to do it for a job. You have no evidence of the absurd claims you make there. And if you are having drug problems with it, TRY FUNDING YOUR DAMNED POLICE AND HAVING THEM DO THEIR DAMNED JOBS.

4. Big business/corporations and CEOs already take advantages of loopholes in the tax structure, what makes you think that Pimps and prostitution will be any different?

Pimps can be illegal under slavery laws. For prostitutes, use the same system for them as you use for waitresses. Oh, and tighten your tax laws. So far, this is all a problem on your end.

5. Resolution #91 denies the right of all nations to decide for themselves whether they want prostitution to be legal.

National sovereignity arguement. Irrelevant.

THEREFORE, THIS PROPOSAL HEREBY RENDERS RESOLUTION #91 TO BE NULL, VOID, AND IRRELEVANT IN ALL UN MEMBER NATIONS.

This makes it a proposal and a repeal. That makes it illegal under UN rules. Expect it to be deleted and you to possibly face a warning or ejection.

This is spamming a repeal attempt that also violates UN rules. Man, you're 0 for 5 today.

I have a repeal!

Oh JOY!



Recalling the Sex Industry Act


Oh not again....



1. Prostitution has been considered immoral by many and should not be promoted.

We like it and consider it moral. As the "many" agreed and voted it into law, you're wrong.



2. Ever heard of STD's? Well no matter the amount of regulations they will still run rampant, how long does an HIV check up take? Only about 24 hours but how many times could a prostitute have sex in that time? Also it takes about six months for the anti-bodies which are used for the scan to show up making the test faulty and possibly incorrect?

*yawn* We have better tests, free condoms, free tests, and find national regulation works just fine for us. Obviously, your nation doesn't care enough to regulate.



3. Legalizing prostitution is another way if increasing illegal drug use.


Define "Illegal drug use", please.



This affects not only the populace but also the economy, who wants to find a factory worker who has a part time job as a gay stoned prostitute?

Judging by our growth in income tax from that job description, LOTS of people. And most are not working two or more jobs, considering how lucrative prostitution is.



Medical studies show that people who have low self esteem are more likely to take drugs, and what is prostitution but a way of saying that you have low self esteem.

My, but that was a stupid arguement.



4. Big business/corporations and CEOs already take advantages of loopholes in the tax structure, what makes you think that Pimps and prostitution will be any different?

REGULATE. ENFORCE THE REGULATIONS. Duh! And we'd rather get tax then spend on law enforcement enforcing outmoded stupid ideas.



5. Resolution #91 denies the right of all nations to decide for themselves whether they want prostitution to be legal.

So does every other UN Resolution - they all mow over your national soverignty. Duh.



THEREFORE, THIS PROPOSAL HEREBY RENDERS RESOLUTION #91 TO BE NULL, VOID, AND IRRELEVANT IN ALL UN MEMBER NATIONS.

OOC: Just advertising, so I hope you all Endorse it. Its on pg 15 of the proposals FYI.

Hell no. We don't endorse tripe.

I have a repeal!

I think your nation will not rank high on "Smartest Citizens". Please don't bother the UN with this, the resolution was massively accepted and a repeal written as badly as yours has very little chance. Practice a bit, make sure you know what you're talking about and next time, try something better like a real resolution instead of a bad repeal. Don't waste the UN's time.

This is spamming a repeal attempt that also violates UN rules. Man, you're 0 for 5 today.

Or...the double topic could be an honest mistake...

Or...the double topic could be an honest mistake...

OOC:
Good point.
The player could be a newbie too.

Furthermore, while opposed to the repeal, I was unaware of the "UN Rule" prohibiting starting threads asking for support.

IC:
The Confederated City States of Mikitivity will not consider a repeal of the Sex Industry Worker Act until such a time that the Council of Mayors is presented information that a suitable replacement is forthcoming. A final copy need not be presented, but my government would at least require that a nation is good standing (i.e. a government that has shown that it will not abandon the UN in a month) will work to find consensus on this issue.

Until such a time, my government would ask that other nations focus on addressing new issues. In particular the debate on education might be worth considering for the immediate future. ;)

A Kriovalian analysis of the proposal:

Prostitution has been considered immoral by many and should not be promoted.

There's a difference between legalizing and promoting prostitution. If you don't want to encourage prostitution, then don't. But don't start the moralizing claptrap. Krioval doesn't need you to tell us who is or isn't "moral", considering the many definitions of that word.

Ever heard of STD's? Well no matter the amount of regulations they will still run rampant, how long does an HIV check up take? Only about 24 hours but how many times could a prostitute have sex in that time? Also it takes about six months for the anti-bodies which are used for the scan to show up making the test faulty and possibly incorrect?

Ever heard of condoms? What about "full and informed choice"? People can choose with whom they have sex and under what conditions. People who are especially worried about STDs can choose to not solicit a prostitute. Further, not every country suffers from HIV - some of us have found cures or advanced treatments for it. Again, let people choose for themselves what they want to do.

Legalizing prostitution is another way if increasing illegal drug use.

Prove it. There is no link between the two other than when both are illegal, they tend to correlate. Legal prostitution and illegal drug use are not related in the slightest - your argument is a strawman.

This affects not only the populace but also the economy, who wants to find a factory worker who has a part time job as a gay stoned prostitute?

Excuse me? If the factory worker is doing an acceptable job, who cares what he or she does outside that workplace? Further, what is wrong with being gay? Or, for that matter, being stoned, so long as nobody is being put in harm's way? I think your proposal is extremely revealing in terms of your blatant prejudices though.

Medical studies show that people who have low self esteem are more likely to take drugs, and what is prostitution but a way of saying that you have low self esteem.

Actually, prostitution is a service performed by a professional. That's it. Sometimes, a quick lay is just a quick lay.

Big business/corporations and CEOs already take advantages of loopholes in the tax structure, what makes you think that Pimps and prostitution will be any different?

Well, if it's completely illegal, there are no regulations at all. So I'd think that some regulation would be an improvement. Is this just a religious argument dressed up in random flailings to make it look like something of substance?

Resolution #91 denies the right of all nations to decide for themselves whether they want prostitution to be legal.

Very true. If only I cared.

THEREFORE, THIS PROPOSAL HEREBY RENDERS RESOLUTION #91 TO BE NULL, VOID, AND IRRELEVANT IN ALL UN MEMBER NATIONS.

I've posted this elsewhere, but if something is made "null", I think it's redundant to say it's "void" as well. As far as relevance is concerned, I think it's a moot point when the thing whose relevance is to be determined has been annihilated.

In other words, keep the damn moralizing to yourself, please.

Amen Krioval. Many European nations legalized prostitution, and it's had good effects. Economy and tourism to name two, and it frees police to pursue actual criminals instead of dumb hoes.

First off, I cannot keep my "moralizing" to myself as I am a Christian.

Second, of course there is a difference. I am glad that you had the intelligence to be able to notice that.

Also, Condoms are known to have recently degraded in quality and now more often than before break because they are too thin to support the stress of typical intercourse. And besides, I am just making a repeal not a proposal banning prostitution so you can keep quiet.

So it does expose my prejudice for gays so what, I don't care. Also, if they are stoned and at work as a factory worker, they could be putting people at risk if they worked with machinery. Think about it for a second.

Sure, some regulation would be better than none, I am just saying the what if.

Who cares if it's redundant. Stupid people don't notice that, infact to them redundance sounds great, simple marketing tool.

In other words, I don't give a *explicative* about your liberal oppinion either. And currently I am not really feeling like I want to debate so just leave this topic with your liberal attitudes.

If I double posted, sorry, I am a newb. :)

First off, I cannot keep my "moralizing" to myself as I am a Christian.

Many of us aren't. If you're going to try and persuade us of your moral values, you're going to have to use some other basis.

Also, Condoms are known to have recently degraded in quality and now more often than before break.

So impose regulations on the condom industry, specifying standards.

So it does expose my prejudice for gays so what, I don't care.

Most of us don't share your prejudice, so it doesn't help your argument.

Also, if they are stoned and at work as a factory worker, they could be putting people at risk if they worked with machinery. Think about it for a second.

We did in _Myopia_. That's why part of the regulation we impose on drug use (which is legal in _Myopia_) is that heavy machinery cannot be operated whilst under the influence of certain drugs. It's not difficult.

In other words, I don't give a *explicative* about your liberal oppinion either. And currently I am not really feeling like I want to debate so just leave this topic with your liberal attitudes.

If you want to gather support for any repeal or proposal, you're going to need to give a damn about opinions such as ours and to debate your ideas with us, because otherwise you won't be able to pass anything.

First off, I cannot keep my "moralizing" to myself as I am a Christian.

Irrelevant. Many Christians live "moral" lives, they don't try and dictate to others. Something about "look to the plank in your own eye before pointing out the mote in your brothers" comes to mind.



Second, of course there is a difference. I am glad that you had the intelligence to be able to notice that.

:rolleyes:



Also, Condoms are known to have recently degraded in quality and now more often than before break because they are too thin to support the stress of typical intercourse. And besides, I am just making a repeal not a proposal banning prostitution so you can keep quiet.

You're not making a repeal. You're making a mess. Your industry obviously needs an overhaul if its making shoddy goods.



So it does expose my prejudice for gays so what, I don't care. Also, if they are stoned and at work as a factory worker, they could be putting people at risk if they worked with machinery. Think about it for a second.

Ok, I think you're a bigot, which invalidates anything you say, Christian.
Obviously you do not practice what you preach. So do sit down.



Sure, some regulation would be better than none, I am just saying the what if.

Who cares if it's redundant. Stupid people don't notice that, infact to them redundance sounds great, simple marketing tool.

Alright - hush. Hush. Hush. Hush. Get it?



In other words, I don't give a *explicative* about your liberal oppinion either. And currently I am not really feeling like I want to debate so just leave this topic with your liberal attitudes.

If I double posted, sorry, I am a newb. :)

"Its a marketing tool, not an error". Then you claim its an error. If you claim its an error, its not a marketing tool. You're all over creation and digging yourself a hole.

Now that you've made yourself out to be a hypocrite and a bigot, do hush.

First off, I cannot keep my "moralizing" to myself as I am a Christian.

That's neither a justification nor a solid excuse. Plenty of Christians can keep their opinions to themselves and otherwise be polite. You're hardly special in claiming a particular faith.

Condoms are known to have recently degraded in quality and now more often than before break because they are too thin to support the stress of typical intercourse.

Like others have said, make better contraception. Krioval is constantly testing and improving in this area, as it's important to our citizens to control fertility.

And besides, I am just making a repeal not a proposal banning prostitution so you can keep quiet.

So I should be quiet but you don't have to be? Talk about hypocrisy.

So it does expose my prejudice for gays so what, I don't care.

Well, the sexual orientation of Krioval's leaders and the acceptance thereof by the population, I think that's another problem of yours. In any case, it has nothing to do with your proposal except to villify people who are other than heterosexual. Good Gods. Like we need more of that on NS!

Also, if they are stoned and at work as a factory worker, they could be putting people at risk if they worked with machinery. Think about it for a second.

You said earlier that said factory worker had "a part time job as a gay stoned prostitute". Thus, the implication is that being stoned is part of the prostitution job and not the factory job. In any case, drug use and prostitution aren't interconnected in the way you imply, and neither are sexual orientation and prostitution. It just gets more and more bizarre, doesn't it?

Sure, some regulation would be better than none, I am just saying the what if.

What if the world ended tomorrow? What if Krioval invaded your pathetic excuse for a nation and you were forced to listen to proclamations by (gay) Commander Raijin every day? What if we airdropped condoms, hardcore pornography, and lube to "soften up your defenses"? Hypotheticals are interesting in theory, but yours have little basis in fact.

Stupid people don't notice that, infact to them redundance sounds great, simple marketing tool.

So you consider your target audience to be stupid? I'm surprised that you'd proclaim that so boldly.

In other words, I don't give a *explicative* about your liberal oppinion either. And currently I am not really feeling like I want to debate so just leave this topic with your liberal attitudes.

First, it's "expletive". Second, I can stand the word "damn", especially with all the other trash posted. "Liberal attitudes"? The word libertarian doesn't mean much to you, does it?

If I double posted, sorry, I am a newb.

Gotta love it. An apology for the double post, but nastiness directed at everybody whose nation shows the slightest level of enlightenment.

So it does expose my prejudice for gays so what, I don't care.

Then you are a sodomite.