NationStates Jolt Archive


!!NEW!! UN Childcare Resolution

Loratana
22-02-2005, 02:45
OOPS. I left out a word and now it hurts kids, not helps them.
Venerable libertarians
22-02-2005, 12:36
:rolleyes: preparation my friend, results in Presentation.
Loratana
25-02-2005, 22:55
UN Childcare Resolution

A resolution to restrict civil freedoms in the interest of moral decency.


Category: Moral Decency


Strength: Mild


Proposed by: Loratana

Description: Children are the future of the biological world. However, if we allow just anyone to care for children, we run the risk of losing our future.

As such, we resolve the following:

1. All childcare facilities must be licensed by a government department which follows the guidelines listed below.

2. The use of tobacco, alcohol, and other recreational drugs shall be disallowed in childcare facilities.

3. Anyone who has a standing conviction of any kind of abuse (child, elder, spouse) may not become licensed to care for children.

4. For those nations that have both robots and biological sentients, a robot may run a childcare facility only if it does not produce toxic chemicals as it runs. The robot must also be programmed not to kill the children it cares for.

5. Inspections of childcare facilities are to be conducted once per year at a random time.

6. These guidelines are the absolute minimum requirements for the member nations of the UN.

May our future be as bright as the light of Glory.
Vastiva
26-02-2005, 12:14
You know, if you changed 5 to read "at least once per year" you might have something.

As we carry out monthly inspections, this would cause lax standards.
Fass
26-02-2005, 16:03
This is too minute for the UN to get involved in.

It is also ridiculous as it bans the use of alcohol without any regard to those species that need to produce or ingest alcohol to survive.
Adam Island
26-02-2005, 17:20
2. The use of tobacco, alcohol, and other recreational drugs shall be disallowed in childcare facilities.

Fass has a point- what about the non-human members of the UN who need alcohol to survive?

And besides, define 'recreational drug' for me. Caffiene? Sugar?
Ryloss
26-02-2005, 17:21
Well, I don't think it prohibits the production of alcohol as a biological process, but it does ban ingesting it. However, I think it would be almost impossible for a species to evolve as to need alcohol, since fermentation and distillation don't occur in nature.
Fass
26-02-2005, 18:49
Well, I don't think it prohibits the production of alcohol as a biological process, but it does ban ingesting it. However, I think it would be almost impossible for a species to evolve as to need alcohol, since fermentation and distillation don't occur in nature.

Someone has apparently never seen goats get drunk on old grapes.
Loratana
26-02-2005, 23:06
No carbon-based species would be able to evolve to use alcohol (C2H5OH) for nutrition. In fact, alcohol is poisonous to every carbon-based species. Maybe you could use alcohol for fuel in robots, but why would you? As for vastiva's comment, please note that these are MINIMUM requirements. And recreational drugs would be whatever the nation's government defines as recreational drugs, so if marijuana is legal as a recreational drug in your nation, tough cookies, you can't use it in a childcare facility. However, if you need to use a drug for medical purposes, you may as long as that is the only purpose it is used for.
Fass
27-02-2005, 02:00
No carbon-based species would be able to evolve to use alcohol (C2H5OH) for nutrition.

Carbonist.
Loratana
27-02-2005, 03:19
well, non-carbon based species wouldn't use carbohydrates, or alcohol, for nutrition anyway.
Venerable libertarians
28-02-2005, 01:29
I am perplexed by the mention of items, Peoples, sciences and processes not known to the people making proposals. No person when researching for their proposal would have knowledge of "Species who live on Alchohol".
While every effort is taken to acknowledge the Weirder groups in nationstates, the proposals end up looking silly.

In a proposal i recently drafted and posted for approval i had to make allowances for Vampirism. Thats not the worst of it. Proposals listing robot nations and Silicon based lifeforms and not to forget the vast array of alien cultures apparently populating the nationstates planet!

On the merits of the proposal itself, I posted when it was originally drafted, that i didnt feel the UN needed to interfere in this matter as it is for the Governments of individual nations to Institute child care and to protect the children of their nation under current Human rights laws.

Besides, The silicon based lifeforms that we feed the children to, in Venerable Libertaria, prefer them litely smoked, and what better place to do it than the Pantry, er i mean creche. :) :p
Loratana
28-02-2005, 06:26
Consider the following:
You folks have turned this thread into a waste of everyone's time.
What would you do in this situation?
As it is, I'm gonna see about closing this thread.
Anti Pharisaism
28-02-2005, 06:43
That was accomplished within the first three to four posts actually.
Vastiva
28-02-2005, 07:45
As for vastiva's comment, please note that these are MINIMUM requirements.

No, you gave exact requirements, not minimum ones:


1. All childcare facilities must be licensed by a government department which follows the guidelines listed below.


Later you add


6. These guidelines are the absolute minimum requirements for the member nations of the UN.

Which means a governmental department which follows stricter guidelines cannot be the licensing bureau. Whoopie!

No support.
Dragunova
28-02-2005, 09:14
It is the responsibility of each nation to tend to their childcare needs. Malnourishment and epidemic poverty seem to work here in Dragunova, so it is not necessary to infringe like this on our or any else's sovereignty on this matter.
Krioval
28-02-2005, 09:40
It is the responsibility of each nation to tend to their childcare needs. Malnourishment and epidemic poverty seem to work here in Dragunova, so it is not necessary to infringe like this on our or any else's sovereignty on this matter.

Read resolution #23, entitled "The Child Protection Act". As a UN member, guess what? It applies to you too!