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Honorable Delegates.......Please support the Freedom From Terror Act under UN Proposals. This act will establish new security measures, while leaving each respective nation in charge of it's own security, and will not take away your rights and freedoms. Terrorism is an ever-growing threat, and this proposal will take steps to combat and/or prevent it from happening in your nation.

Thanks.

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Please post the text of the proposal here.

FREEDOM FROM TERROR ACT
A resolution to improve world security by boosting police and military budgets.

Category: International Security
Strength: Significant
Proposed by: WyattLand

-Whereas terrorism continues to be a very real and growing threat in the global community.

-Whereas it is the duty of the UN to help maintain the security of it's nations.

The United Nations declares:

1. All UN nations will freeze all known terrorist assets in banks, credit unions, etc.
2. All UN nations will expel known terrorist cells out of their nations.
3. All UN nations will establish an anti-terrorism committee to investigate any terrorist activity in their particular nation.
4. The United Nations will partially finance the anti-terrorism committees for nations that demonstrate that they do not have sufficient resources.
5. The United Nations reserves the right to verify the above actions, to enforce those actions, and to set deadlines regarding the completion of such actions.

Approvals: 8

Status: Lacking Support (requires 136 more approvals)

Voting Ends: Sun Feb 20 2005

We promise to expel all terrorists.

(Good thing he didn't say anything about freedom fighters, vigilantes, or political extremists)

Would this really combat terrorism? I mean surely, terrorists would just organise their activities from outside the UN. They say that poverty is the cause of it, so, with that in mind, try suggesting a proposal that might do something about this.

I must say i agree with Adamsgrad on this one. Counter terrorism is not a UN Issue as there are more nations outside of its influence. All any nation can do is decide its stance on terrorism and take local measures. Indeed a group of nations may decide to work together to coincide their efforts but this also works the other way as nations that condone Terrorism can also combine their efforts

Its a nice idea but unfortunately pie in the sky.

President Murphy,
The Realm of Hibernia.

2. All UN nations will expel known terrorist cells out of their nations.


Where will they go? They have to exist somewhere? International waters? Space?

Where will they go? They have to exist somewhere? International waters? Space?
My thoughts exactly.

I see the justification for legislation of this kind, but one must be extraordinarily careful with the drafting, else countless national governments may topple. An example: Ecopoeia's.

Mathieu Vergniaud
Deputy Speaker to the UN

FREEDOM FROM TERROR ACT
A resolution to improve world security by boosting police and military budgets.

Category: International Security
Strength: Significant
Proposed by: WyattLand

-Whereas terrorism continues to be a very real and growing threat in the global community.

-Whereas it is the duty of the UN to help maintain the security of it's nations.

The United Nations declares:

1. All UN nations will freeze all known terrorist assets in banks, credit unions, etc.
2. All UN nations will expel known terrorist cells out of their nations.
3. All UN nations will establish an anti-terrorism committee to investigate any terrorist activity in their particular nation.
4. The United Nations will partially finance the anti-terrorism committees for nations that demonstrate that they do not have sufficient resources.
5. The United Nations reserves the right to verify the above actions, to enforce those actions, and to set deadlines regarding the completion of such actions.

Approvals: 8

Status: Lacking Support (requires 136 more approvals)

Voting Ends: Sun Feb 20 2005

Who provides the money that clause 4 distributes?

Who decides who are terrorists? Many revolutionary groups that we would support are considered terrorists by the governments they are working against.

Wouldn't it be better to imprison terrorists so they are no longer a threat than to banish them from our nations?

Crush atheist towse!

This proposal is logically odd, because it seems to suggest that UN member states have not on their own motion implemented counter-terrorism measures like this. I would think most have, but for the sake of argument...

'Anti-terrorism committee' is very vague. Who will sit on this committee? Why is it needed? If its purpose is to investigate terrorist activities I would hope a nation's law enforcement agencies would already do this.

Also, how will the UN 'enforce' a nation's action? If a NSUN state is unwilling to perform some action, what legal entity will issue the mandate for the UN to 'enforce' and who will the enforcers be?

The point about where these terrorist cells will be expelled to has already been raised, but I would think it more sensible to contain a terrorist cell in a responsible UN member state than expel them to a potentially irresponsible non-member state. Granted, this places demands on penal systems, but is a better option than letting them plan activities elsewhere.

Long story short: a resolution like this needs to be a lot less vague.

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Sigh, another M.O.S.S. proposal

-Whereas it is the duty of the UN to help maintain the security of it's nations.

No.

But seriously, is it just too hard to run it through a GRAMMAR CHECKER?

The people who founded our current government were labelled terrorists for their activities. Yet most people now accept it was necessary.

So given that you have not defined what a terrorist is, or who gets to define what a terrorist organization is, this proposal is open to way too much abuse by pretty much every member of the UN. Which is far from being the good thing it claims to be.

So given that you have not defined what a terrorist is, or who gets to define what a terrorist organization is, this proposal is open to way too much abuse by pretty much every member of the UN. Which is far from being the good thing it claims to be.
Yes. Our militia could possibly be defined as "terrorists", and we wouldn't want to be left defenseless...

~UN Representative for Neo-Anarchists~

Considering the DLE word for "propaganda" also means "orbital bombardment with weapons of mass destruction" and that DLE classifies "the destruction of foreign cities with radiation-producing weapons between the yields of 15 kilotons and 30 megatons" to be "an act of protest against the government policies of victim nation," I think you're in need of some definitions.