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(Submitted) IIDS Defense Plan

Modern Arabia
13-02-2005, 20:22
Category: International Security
Strength: Strong
Proposed by: Modern Arabia

Description: The IIDS Defense Plan

The People’s Republic of Modern Arabia proposes the IIDS (International Integrated Defense System) to fight off nuclear threats.

Argument: It is important that the UN council recognizes the importance of nuclear warfare and the danger that it presents to the entire world. We must also take into consideration that not all nations in this world comply with UN laws and are not members of the UN. Therefore, to kill the threat of nuclear warfare, enacting laws preventing UN nations from building WMDs is not going to help because non-UN countries will still be building them! Some of these nations even already have WMDs! It is clearly a big problem and we must prepare ourselves.

Solution: In light of this problem, my cabinet ministers and I have come to a solution that will surely fix the problem. The People’s Republic of Modern Arabia proposes the IIDS, abbreviated for International Integrated Defense System. It is simply a satellite capable of handling up to 100 nuclear launches at once and quickly and efficiently destroying them before any harm is done through the use of a highly dense compulsion of alpha, beta and gamma rays. Our researchers at PRMA Space Division in Modern Arabia have developed plans and blueprints for this satellite. The only big problem is funding. It would cost about 500 trillion dinnars (about 50 trillion dollars) to safely and successfully accomplish this project. Obviously, no one country alone can invest so much without depriving its people and destroying its economy, something I’m sure that everybody here at the UN is not willing to do. Therefore, under this proposal, all UN nations are to contribute to this great project through their space programs. If certain nations do not have space programs, they may be able to contribute in other ways, through money or perhaps supplies. If all of us put a fair contribution, it will cost each nation only a miniscule amount to ensure safety from nuclear warfare.

Thank you for reading over this proposal. Please remember that a vote for means the approval of the IIDS Defense Plan and a vote against it is to not ensure the safety and well being of the world and its inhabitants. Thank you, on behalf of the people of the People’s Republic of Modern Arabia.


Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 146 more approvals)

Voting Ends: Wed Feb 16 2005




Please endorse :D Thanks
But before you do, does anybody know if something like this has been passed before? I think it would have but I'm not sure.
Gwenstefani
13-02-2005, 20:37
I don't *think* there is a similar resolution already, but the best way to find out is to go the the United Nations page and click on "UN Resolutions Throughout History". It shows you all the resolutions that have passed.
Asshelmetta
13-02-2005, 23:26
No. and then, no.

1. I rely on my region and regional alliances for mutual protection treaties. The UN is not the appropriate venue for that. There are a lot of nationstates in the UN I'd like to launch attacks on - a mutual defense treaty with them would be counter-productive.

2. This proposal discriminates unfairly against nationstates that have invested in a nuclear deterrent instead of conventional forces.

3. The thing to worry about is the planet-busting antimatter beams from rouge deathstars, not rinky-dink little nukes.
Modern Arabia
14-02-2005, 01:52
I don't know about deathstars and such, and its not like it can destroy an entire planet, it just shoots multiple beams that destroy any nukes. It doesn't take much to destroy a nuke, u dont need something that can blow up a planet.
Neo-Anarchists
14-02-2005, 07:05
I don't know about deathstars and such, and its not like it can destroy an entire planet, it just shoots multiple beams that destroy any nukes. It doesn't take much to destroy a nuke, u dont need something that can blow up a planet.
What s/he's saying is, nukes aren't such a problem, when there are bigger and worse weapons around, like the aforementioned antimattr beams.
Modern Arabia
14-02-2005, 12:17
((Just a none-in-role comment to make: Everybody plays this game in a different time I guess. I play it more with a contemporary theme, so I'm not thinking of colonizing other planets and deathstars. In my time, nukes are the biggest threat. I think we ought to set what time NS is in cause this is pretty confusing.))
Neo-Anarchists
14-02-2005, 12:34
((Just a none-in-role comment to make: Everybody plays this game in a different time I guess. I play it more with a contemporary theme, so I'm not thinking of colonizing other planets and deathstars. In my time, nukes are the biggest threat. I think we ought to set what time NS is in cause this is pretty confusing.))
The problem there is the roleplaying. Many people enjoy roleplaying in a futuristic setting, many people enjoy roleplaying in a modern setting, and many people somewhere in-between.
Engineering chaos
14-02-2005, 12:38
If you want to eliminate Nukes as a threat than propose a resolution to ban them!

:eek: I would question the sanity of destroying nuclear weapons in our atmosphere
Modern Arabia
14-02-2005, 12:44
If you want to eliminate Nukes as a threat than propose a resolution to ban them!

:eek: I would question the sanity of destroying nuclear weapons in our atmosphere

If you read my proposal, you'll realise that if i propose a ban, on UN nations will comply, but what about non-UN nations? eh??! eh??! You wanna die? You wanna die a nuclear death eh??! Your little atmosphere is more important than ure life ehhh??!?!!?

no, lol, thanks for the question :D
Engineering chaos
14-02-2005, 12:47
Damn those sneaky nations who won't join the UN. Typical shabby foreign trick.

I still question detination of nukes in the atmosphere, but having said that I don't like the idea of having my skin and flesh burnt off my bones either :(
Modern Arabia
14-02-2005, 12:50
Damn those sneaky nations who won't join the UN. Typical shabby foreign trick.

I still question detination of nukes in the atmosphere, but having said that I don't like the idea of having my skin and flesh burnt off my bones either :(

yep, u don't, and the choice is global warming or nuclear winter. Which one would you chose? :D ITs the sad truth. Maybe they will even eachother out, eh? :sniper: what a cool smiley
Engineering chaos
14-02-2005, 12:53
quickly and efficiently destroying them before any harm is done through the use of a highly dense compulsion of alpha, beta and gamma rays. I assume this means that the satillite will be firing the rays?

If so I'm confused
Modern Arabia
14-02-2005, 17:55
well yeah, where else would they be coming from, its pretty clear
Engineering chaos
14-02-2005, 18:57
Well no offense or anything, but I didn't think Alpha & Beta particles had either the range nor the penetration to go through metal. Secondly what do you think gamma is going to do to it? It will just go straight through it and have no effect.

I do not understand the scientific claimes for this system
Jeianga
14-02-2005, 19:06
Sounds like a lot of money to be spent on nothing.

And who exactly controls this "death star"? (even though I doubt it would work)

Your nation? HA! No way.

The UN? Illegal.

Either way, No.
Engineering chaos
14-02-2005, 19:11
It just accured to me that there has been no mention of who will control this program. If the UN sanctions the use of nukes (very unlikely) will it blow ours up as well?
Modern Arabia
14-02-2005, 21:47
A compulsion my friend, scientifcally this does work, as a compulsion is all three shot at the same consistancy and velocity, creating a physical force able to penetrate easily through any alloy.

And as for who controls it, nobody does, it will automatically destroy any nuke on site and can defrintiate between space shuttles and nukes by simply mapping their trajectory and plutonium readings.

Is that scietifical enough for you???? ?? ? ? eh?? ((This is a friggin game!Jeez!))

EDIT: It will destroy ALL nukes. And thus making nuclear warfare obsolete. Its a mixed blessing I guess. So at least if there is a warfare, nations won't have the oppurtunity to raze an entire city and kill innocent people.
Ecopoeia
15-02-2005, 15:53
Ecopoeia has neither the ability nor the will to fund such a programme. We see no scientific backing to the claims made for the IIDS.

Mathieu Vergniaud
Deputy Speaker to the UN
Engineering chaos
16-02-2005, 02:59
A compulsion my friend, scientifcally this does work, as a compulsion is all three shot at the same consistancy and velocity, creating a physical force able to penetrate easily through any alloy.

And as for who controls it, nobody does, it will automatically destroy any nuke on site and can defrintiate between space shuttles and nukes by simply mapping their trajectory and plutonium readings.

Is that scietifical enough for you???? ?? ? ? eh?? ((This is a friggin game!Jeez!))

My head of research tells me that you have just given a load of clap-trap that does not actually work. She says that this idea will merely waste millions of screwdrivers and is a waste of time. She also urges me to oppose this idea within the UN. I will follow her advice.
Yours,
Mr J. Smith
Engineering Chaos minister for UN co-operation
Modern Arabia
16-02-2005, 18:14
My head of research tells me that you have just given a load of clap-trap that does not actually work. She says that this idea will merely waste millions of screwdrivers and is a waste of time. She also urges me to oppose this idea within the UN. I will follow her advice.
Yours,
Mr J. Smith
Engineering Chaos minister for UN co-operation

((Ok people, forget the whole science thing ok. I'm playing a f*kcing
game aright? I'm not some scientist. Take into assumption that if this bill passes the satelite will be fully functional, alright?))

On other news, there are 129 votes until this bill passes, so please make some votes if you would like to abolish nuclear warfare forever and at least take several steps forward to world peace again.

I have calculated the AVERAGE that each nation would have to invest. If the satelite costs 50 trillion dollars and there are 37,639 UN nations, it would be about $1 328 515 251. That's about half the cost of buying new clothing for an army. ((The US just recently spent 3.5 billion on that according to TIME magazine)) So a bit over a billion is not a lot to ensure countless years of security from nuclear missles.

((Reminder, the passing of the bill means that it will be fully functional! alright?))
Ecopoeia
16-02-2005, 19:23
The figure quoted is, quite simply, beyond Ecopoeia's means. We'll stick to trying to maintain our dilapidated public services, thanks.