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Equality of The Sexes

Category: Human Rights
Strength: Strong
Proposed by: The Black New World

Description: Equality of The Sexes is the sister proposal of 'The Sexes Rights Law'

The United Nations notes with sorrow the precedent in history and contemporary times where male dominated cultures infringe upon the rights of women. The following document is intended to both relieve and resolve much of these discriminative actions, not for one sex, but for all.

The United Nations :

Re-affirms and Re-states : Article 4 of The Universal Bill of Rights, implemented by the Nation States United Nations on Fri Aug 8 2003.

Deplores : The intimidation of one sex or more by another or others, whether that sex is chosen or by birth.

Is Deeply Disturbed By : Government encouraged segregation of the sexes and suppression based on sex.

Does Formally Recognise and Declare : That the rights of all sexes are equal and that this equality must be preserved in the interests of the rights of all citizens of Nation States United Nation member states.

RESOLVES :

1. The Nation States United Nations legalises divorce, in all member states, with no repercussions from the state or loss of rights

2. The Nation States United Nations calls upon all employers within member-states to provide equal chance at employment/ranking for all sexes.

The above are applicable within reason in that they are open to interpretation by a member states legal system in regards to each individual case, under the condition that the legal system must act in an un-biased fashion in regard to these cases.

3. No UN member nation shall bar illustrations of internal or external genitalia when such illustrations are used for educational or informative purposes including those parts that are deemed 'unnecessary' for reproduction and/or offensive.

4. Cosmetic surgery on genitalia at birth because a child's genitalia does not conform to what a nation believes as 'normal' for that sex is hereby prohibited in all UN member nations.

5. The practice of infanticide based only on the sex of the baby, or the ambiguity of sex, shall be prohibited in all UN member nations.

6. Religious organisations, and all professions where the differences in physical features between sexes affect how well an individual can perform the job are exempt from clause 2.

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 146 more approvals)

Voting Ends: Tue Feb 15 2005

The Gothic Glory of The Black New World has not approved this proposal.

Please endorse ;)

Informed regional delegate to endorse or face herring gizzards in his slippers.

Thanks.

Thanks to
The Black New World, Gaiah, James Ellis, Flibbleites, Zon BloodStar, Anti-Oppressionism, Yelda, Runners Incorperated, Boston, Arcadiea, WZ Forums

135 are still needed.

You will have mine.

Thanks to
WZ Forums, Kamuras, Joshburia, Mookiedom, Al-Zar

131 still needed

Did I support this last time around, or not?

Point 3 doesn't seem like it belongs with the rest of the resolution.

In fact, if you remove points 3 and 4 I'll support the next version of this proposal.

I like the proposal, well worded and it even has a clause to protect my nation from being overwhelmed with under qualified firewomen.

Unfortunatly, I've no power. :(

Will bring it up with my region's delegate, however.

Informed regional delegate to endorse or face herring gizzards in his slippers.

And here was the reply:


I cannot endorse this proposal. It bans circumcision of male children, which is required for the Jewish faith. To endorse this would interfere with their rights to practice their religion. Also the practice of infanticide is already banned if I remember correctly, as far as abortions, however, those problems will work themselves out through a baby bust. The practice of aborting a fetus based on gender is as terrible idea, however it is also a right of the parent as scary as that sounds.

Apologies,
Axel the Great
Prime Minister of Calorom

I cannot endorse this proposal. It bans circumcision of male children, which is required for the Jewish faith. To endorse this would interfere with their rights to practice their religion. Also the practice of infanticide is already banned if I remember correctly, as far as abortions, however, those problems will work themselves out through a baby bust. The practice of aborting a fetus based on gender is as terrible idea, however it is also a right of the parent as scary as that sounds.

Apologies,
Axel the Great
Prime Minister of Calorom

It only bans messing with genitals for cosmetic purposes, not religious. Religions can snip away. We didn't put religion in the mix because of the ban on FMG.

Abortion based on sex is still legal under ' Abortion Rights ', only it is the woman's choice. Banning infanticide (based on sex) has no effect on abortion and you can still use infanticide as involuntary euthanasia if you wish.

Giordano,
Acting Senior UN representative,
The Black New World

Feel free to TG him your reasons.

I don't like how operative clause 1 interferes with my national sovereignty without explanation as to why it is necessary.

The right to get out of an abusive marriage is an essential one. And as far as I'm concerned, forcing anyone to remain married against their will is fairly ridiculous, since marriage is supposed to be an expression of love.

_Myopia_ is right. Marriage depending on culture can bind two people together or in others promoting ownership. It can promote stereotypical roles that individuals feel trapped and abused.

If a marriage isn't working people need to be able to get out.

Giordano,
Acting Senior UN representative,
The Black New World,
Delegate to The Order of The Valiant States

I understand that, I just don't understand why it's not in the resolution.

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_Myopia_ is right. Marriage depending on culture can bind two people together or in others promoting ownership. It can promote stereotypical roles that individuals feel trapped and abused.

If a marriage isn't working people need to be able to get out.

Giordano,
Acting Senior UN representative,
The Black New World,
Delegate to The Order of The Valiant States
That's all very well and good, but it doesn't have much to do with equality of the sexes.

Did we have a gay marriage resolution? Because the biggest effect of this proposal would be as a gay divorce resolution.

That's all very well and good, but it doesn't have much to do with equality of the sexes.

Did we have a gay marriage resolution? Because the biggest effect of this proposal would be as a gay divorce resolution.

Generally in nations that don't have full equality, women are the ones who are trapped in marriages, where as men can pretty much come and go as they please. If this passes, it might level the playing field. A good thing I would say :}

Right now gay marriage is legal in plenty of nationstates where gay divorce is illegal.

6. Religious organisations, and all professions where the differences in physical features between sexes affect how well an individual can perform the job are exempt from clause 2.

So are you saying that my religion now HAS to employ female ministers

So are you saying that my religion now HAS to employ female ministers

I think he is saying exactly the opposite. That certian jobs can only be done by certain genders, so this proposal is not going to stop that.

where the differences in physical features between sexes affect how well an individual can perform the job

I think it does TilEnca. A woman is just as able to perform the duties as a man. Except that the faith forbids it.

I think it does TilEnca. A woman is just as able to perform the duties as a man. Except that the faith forbids it.


6. Religious organisations, and all professions where the differences in physical features between sexes affect how well an individual can perform the job are exempt from clause 2.


This says that Religious organisations are exempt from Clause 2.

I think the phrase "can perform the job" is open to debate

I'm perfectly happy to put this bill through as long as it doesn't mess with my countries religions

I think the phrase "can perform the job" is open to debate

I'm perfectly happy to put this bill through as long as it doesn't mess with my countries religions


6. Religious organisations, and all professions where the differences in physical features between sexes affect how well an individual can perform the job are exempt from clause 2.


Maybe I am reading this wrong - but it says to me that

(Religious Organisations)

and

(all professions where the differences in physical features between sexes affect how well an individual can perform the job)

are exempt from clause 2.

So that religious organisations are exempt, as are jobs where it matters what sex you are.

Fair enough then. It doesn't seem to conflict with with any existing resolutions and adds to two of them so what the hell I'll do it.
I am very please that "Targets and quotas" were not mentioned. The British Gov likes them. Personally I can't see how you can hire the most suitiable candidate if you have to meet targets and quotas.

The right to get out of an abusive marriage is an essential one. And as far as I'm concerned, forcing anyone to remain married against their will is fairly ridiculous, since marriage is supposed to be an expression of love.

Marriage ideals differ between cultures.

See definition of marrage resolution!

See definition of marrage resolution!

"Definition of Marriage" doesn't set forth any ideals for marriage. It doesn't condemn abusive relationships or a heirarchy between spouses. It just defines marriage.