NationStates Jolt Archive


A new Proposal Please Support

Miss Mary
11-02-2005, 22:06
Hello This a newer nation and i have finally been appointed delegate and would ask for support in it being brought to the table... This propasal is called the Regional Peacekeeping Force ....check it out and anyquestions telegram my country thanks
Neo-Anarchists
11-02-2005, 22:14
*sigh*...
Another M.O.S.S. proposal.
I shall go dig it up.
Regional Peacekeeping Support

A resolution to improve world security by boosting police and military budgets.
Category: International Security
Strength: Significant
Proposed by: Miss Mary

Description: OBERSEVATION- Currently nations lack military power and ability to hold peace in instable regions.

PLAN- Increase funding for UN member states to provide better regional stability and military control.

ADVANTAGES (ARGUMENTS) - 4

-UN member states should have the ability to bring about peace on their own this preserves national sovereignty.

-Some poorer nations lack ability to fund an efficient army or army training infrastructure

-Additional funding would allow for better training and abilities to deal with rebellions and civil rights violations.

-Supporting Police gives worthy people increases salaries and incentives to join police forces.

KEEPING IM MIND- That all nations will at sometime need to use police forces no matter how corrupt or pure and more nations are pure than corrupt in Nation States

Hmm.
Opinions, anyone? I, myself, can't see any glaring flaws.
Fass
11-02-2005, 22:20
This doesn't actually do anything. I don't understand what it wants to do and it gives no way of accomplishing this unknown purpose.
TilEnca
11-02-2005, 22:24
Setting aside the spelling and interesting use of words, there is a flaw in it.

It doesn't set any regulations or rules as to how peace will be enforced. It mentions rebellions and civil rights' violations in the same phrase, as if they are both things that should be dealt with in the same way. Indeed the proposal could easily lead to both if the military is given the power it appears to be.

I also can't tell if this is supposed to only be within nations, or regions as well?

Although I support the proposal at Vote, and this appears to be the same thing, this is very unclear as to it's goal, and how it will achieve it.
Asshelmetta
12-02-2005, 02:30
PLAN- Increase funding for UN member states to provide better regional stability and military control.

Ack! *thud*

Can I manage my own daily issues, please?

I don't want to be in an alliance with NSUN nations, thank you - I have a region that I'm fond of, and we're all allied with each other just fine. In fact, as a region we may reach out to other regions for alliances. I certainly wouldn't look primarily to the UN for an alliance.
Neo-Anarchists
12-02-2005, 03:00
Although I support the proposal at Vote, and this appears to be the same thing, this is very unclear as to it's goal, and how it will achieve it.
That might be a problem, you know...
I must not have read it over very well at first. Far too vague.
Miss Mary
12-02-2005, 03:35
Thank you for the feedback ....but do you have any suggestions for how this gets done....i was thinkin of using similar standards or the Real World ACOTA program...a program that gives earmarked checks to train military and police forces to deal with rebellions.....and on to civilrights violations i guess i should say right violations that this rebellion causes similar to those in the Congo today....anything i need help me ...i can tweak it retool it and hopefully get this passed
Krioval
12-02-2005, 04:28
I typically decline proposals that involve the United Nations heading or creating a military organization. Barring any majorly convincing argument to sway me, I will likely not be approving this proposal.
The UN Gnomes
12-02-2005, 05:29
This proposal doesn't strike me as illegal, per se, but it has some flaws.
Style
This is laid out more as a series of arguments in support of some other Proposal. Listing out pros and cons (or just pros in this case) in a Proposal is bad form. Not illegal, but less likely to get support.
Vague
It doesn't really set out what it's supposed to do, aside from increasing funding for militaries. And, that's already covered by the subtitle of the 'International Security' category. We already know it'll increase budgets, we want to know how and why.
Strength
Since this proposal doesn't really mandate anything aside from nebulous funding increases (adding $0.01 to the budget would satisfy this Proposal) I don't think this has earned a 'Significant' level. Honestly, this would have to stand on a step ladder to reach 'Mild'. Granted, Proposals are almost never deleted for having the wrong strength, but it is something to keep in mind.
Grammar
This was mentioned earlier, but your spelling, grammar, and syntax are a little tortured. Not to the level of illegibility, but something to keep in mind.
Metagaming
This line: "PLAN- Increase funding for UN member states to provide better regional stability and military control" skirts the edges of metagaming, which (roughly) is using the UN to affect aspects of the game it doesn't have jurisdiction over. In this case, you're reaching into regions. UN Proposals affect nations, not regions, especially since most regions have non-UN nations, who are immune to all UN affects. This statement could potentially result in the Proposal being deleted.

So, it's not terrible, but needs serious rework.
Jungle Fowl
12-02-2005, 12:03
Police is good.
TilEnca
12-02-2005, 13:17
Thank you for the feedback ....but do you have any suggestions for how this gets done....i was thinkin of using similar standards or the Real World ACOTA program...a program that gives earmarked checks to train military and police forces to deal with rebellions.....and on to civilrights violations i guess i should say right violations that this rebellion causes similar to those in the Congo today....anything i need help me ...i can tweak it retool it and hopefully get this passed

So this proposal would let governments surpress human rights in a much easier way than they do now?
Miss Mary
12-02-2005, 16:02
Supress human rights ....i think your human rights definition is very limited i cited the congo instance when because of these rebels villiages are consumed denying people of basic rights like food...water medicine ...life without police or ability to stop this rights and lives will be violated
TilEnca
12-02-2005, 17:56
Supress human rights ....i think your human rights definition is very limited i cited the congo instance when because of these rebels villiages are consumed denying people of basic rights like food...water medicine ...life without police or ability to stop this rights and lives will be violated

But by the same token a rebel uprising could be a sign that the government is a bunch of crooks, and that the people are expressing their views. Using this proposal you could crush the rebellion with no problem at all.
Miss Mary
12-02-2005, 20:04
Well would this proposal be better if i support NATIONS police Programs...
Pojonia
13-02-2005, 02:46
"Obersevation:" increasing funding to U.N. member nations isn't the direct cause of regional stability. You create a cause, but don't achieve the effect you want. Actually, the cause is flawed too, since the U.N. has no money save what member nations give TO it. Unless you show how to get the money for funding (Bake sale!) you're not going to increase any funding. Be specific, vague proposals are extremely open to corruption and no pragmatic nation wants them on the floor.