Clones Are People Too
Twilight_Sky
10-02-2005, 03:04
I wanna know how everyone feels about nations who are making clones
Do you think people who have nations that are cloning should be allowed to join the UN?
Asshelmetta
10-02-2005, 03:17
???
OOC: grammatically, your question parses as an attempt to keep certain british animal husbandry experts from playing this game.
What did you really mean?
Goobergunchia
10-02-2005, 03:20
Mr. Secretary-General, I note that the representative from Twilight_Sky has offered the following proposal on this topic:
Clones are People too
A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.
Category: Human Rights
Strength: Strong
Proposed by: Twilight_Sky
Description: This is so that people who have nations that are cloning people aren't restricted and get kicked from the UN for what other people think is Immoral, maybe to the people who's nations do that, think its great and not immoral Just because you think its unethical doesn't mean we can reject them please people vote for allowing the clone nations to join
Approvals: 0
Status: Lacking Support (requires 145 more approvals)
Voting Ends: Sun Feb 13 2005
As there are no restrictions onto what nations can join the United Nations, I find this proposal superfluous at best and a rules violation at worse. Therefore, I raise a point of order that this proposal changes the rules relating to the UN and therefore would be a change in "Game Mechanics".
[Lord] Michael Evil
Goobergunchian UN Ambassador
DemonLordEnigma
10-02-2005, 05:24
Clones are already granted rights by the UN. Anyone who bothered to read the passed resolutions would know this.
Mr. Secretary-General, I note that the representative from Twilight_Sky has offered the following proposal on this topic:
As there are no restrictions onto what nations can join the United Nations, I find this proposal superfluous at best and a rules violation at worse. Therefore, I raise a point of order that this proposal changes the rules relating to the UN and therefore would be a change in "Game Mechanics".
[Lord] Michael Evil
Goobergunchian UN Ambassador
*cough* Nope, isn't a rules violation. And it's already been done.
Asshelmetta
10-02-2005, 05:42
Clones are already granted rights by the UN. Anyone who bothered to read the passed resolutions would know this.
well, that certainly excludes me.
link me?
DemonLordEnigma
10-02-2005, 05:53
Here ya go:
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7030146&postcount=57
Goobergunchia
10-02-2005, 05:53
*cough* Nope, isn't a rules violation. And it's already been done.
What has already been done? I haven't been around much in the past year, so I may be a little shaky on some of the newer precedents....
Asshelmetta
10-02-2005, 05:59
Here ya go:
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7030146&postcount=57
so my kids with the gills are legal now?
cool!
so my kids with the gills are legal now?
cool!
Pojonia has been registering the more sentient of its Pojo population as "citizens" for some time now. I don't believe there's really any restriction on what you can call civilians, as long as you have a good definition at the start of the nation.
The Irish Brotherhood
10-02-2005, 10:28
No nation should be aloud to clone a human being.
No nation should be aloud to clone a human being.
Too bad they already are.... and do...
DemonLordEnigma
10-02-2005, 20:52
No nation should be aloud to clone a human being.
Uh huh. And next thing I know, you'll say that no nation should allow polygamy, polyandry, or a person to have both a husband and a wife.
Rouge State
11-02-2005, 03:05
Uh huh. And next thing I know, you'll say that no nation should allow polygamy, polyandry, or a person to have both a husband and a wife.
The Irish Brotherhood would do well to make such a pronouncement. Such things are perversion and should be banned. Those who engage in such acts should be harshly punished.
Down with the liberal UN!
Nargopia
11-02-2005, 03:11
Anyway, Moulin Rouge* State, what are you doing in an organization that you despise?
*I assume you meant for your name to be Rogue State. If I'm wrong, and you really do have something for French, then let me know.
Neo-Anarchists
11-02-2005, 03:20
The Irish Brotherhood would do well to make such a pronouncement. Such things are perversion and should be banned. Those who engage in such acts should be harshly punished.
Hmm?
Perfectly normal over here in our land. It's part of the culture.
Down with the liberal UN!
If you don't want to be part of the UN, then why, pray tell, did you join?
DemonLordEnigma
11-02-2005, 04:08
The Irish Brotherhood would do well to make such a pronouncement. Such things are perversion and should be banned. Those who engage in such acts should be harshly punished.
Down with the liberal UN!
Which includes most of my empire, which by this point can't have any more sexual freedom without crossing the species border (xenophobia prevents that).
Asshelmetta
11-02-2005, 06:22
No nation should be aloud to clone a human being.
OOC in best elmer fudd voice: no, it should be vewy vewy quiet!
IC: This is the point in the debate where I cry "National Sovereignty!"
Of course we should be allowed to clone people. That's obvious to me, anyhow.
So please don't go legislating your morality into the legal code of my nation.
First off, to deal with the title ;
" Clones Are People Too "
How-ever, most people are idiots. So I don't see how this could help clones. Mind you, since a clone ( In the pure form of the concept ) is a exact copy of it, then a clone of a human would by definition be a cloned human, and there-for just that, a human. See, simple.
I wanna know how everyone feels about nations who are making clonesI have no problems with it on the whole.Do you think people who have nations that are cloning should be allowed to join the UN?Even if I did have a problem with them, which I do not, we ( U.N. members like I assume you are ) cannot put limitations on who may join the U.N. nor may we use the U.N. to propose changes to game rules to restrict membership to any one " group " of nations on any basis of entry.
Gflekers
11-02-2005, 08:17
Of course clones are people... who ever said otherwise?
Oh.. and I would just like to point out that identical twins are nature's versions of clones.
When you get into cloning for the purpose of stem cell harvesting.... that's different. Gflekers generously offers the technology of reproducing stem cells to anyone who has need of it. No charge.
Of course clones are people... who ever said otherwise?
Oh.. and I would just like to point out that identical twins are nature's versions of clones.
When you get into cloning for the purpose of stem cell harvesting.... that's different. Gflekers generously offers the technology of reproducing stem cells to anyone who has need of it. No charge.
We prefer harvesting from fetuses designed to overproduce stem cells and never to manifest a brain of any sort. Gives the poor something to do.
The grand britania
11-02-2005, 22:36
in my nation i only wanted clones to liven up hunting (clones as prey) :sniper: as this would make the sporting eliment of hunting more enjoyable.
The grand britania
11-02-2005, 22:38
i beleive that they wanted to bring it down from the inside . :sniper: :sniper: :sniper: ha
The grand britania
11-02-2005, 22:39
Hmm?
Perfectly normal over here in our land. It's part of the culture.
If you don't want to be part of the UN, then why, pray tell, did you join?
maybe they wanted to bring it down from the inside
The grand britania
11-02-2005, 22:42
First off, to deal with the title ;
" Clones Are People Too "
How-ever, most people are idiots. So I don't see how this could help clones. Mind you, since a clone ( In the pure form of the concept ) is a exact copy of it, then a clone of a human would by definition be a cloned human, and there-for just that, a human. See, simple.
I have no problems with it on the whole.Even if I did have a problem with them, which I do not, we ( U.N. members like I assume you are ) cannot put limitations on who may join the U.N. nor may we use the U.N. to propose changes to game rules to restrict membership to any one " group " of nations on any basis of entry.
in my happy litle empire clones are used in hunting as cheap and afordible prey wich has no effect on any real forna. and yes cloaning is cheap due to the do it yourself cloaning kits at two hundred shillings :sniper: