NationStates Jolt Archive

Found this while going through the proposal queue.
Since the author hasn't started a thread to see what people think, I decided to!

I think this has a lot of potential.
Sunset Statutes On Resolutions

A resolution to increase democratic freedoms.


Category: The Furtherment of Democracy


Strength: Strong


Proposed by: The Wild Cards

Description: In order to give all UN nations a say on all resolutions past and future. We propose:

A) All passed U.N. proposals be reviewed periodically by general vote among all U.N. nations

B) Any U.N. resolution shall be reviewed by general vote 2 years after it has been passed, excluding resolutions that have repealed past resolutions. All regulations governing U.N. resolution votes shall apply.

C) These reviews of U.N. resolutions shall not delay any proposals that have reached quorum. These reviews shall only be voted on when there are no other proposals on the floor to be voted on. If a proposal has reached quorum it shall be voted on immediately after a reevaluation vote is finished.

D) Once said resolution has been re-approved the general assembly then it shall be exempt from the 2 year reevaluation rule until the amount of member nations reach the next 10,000 mark. For example, the current U.N. membership is between 30,000 and 40,000. When membership reaches 40,000 then any resolution shall be subject to reevaluation again. When his number reaches 50,000 this process shall start again.

E) Once a membership benchmark has been reach, that number shall not trigger revaluations again until the previous benchmark is broken. For example, once membership has reached 40,000 it will not trigger this resolution again unless membership falls below 30,000.

F) Any resolution that is not approved in the revaluation shall be repealed.

G) This proposal no way limits any nation’s ability to propose repeals, as that is the right of any nation to do so.

H) Approval of this resolution shall start the revaluation of resolutions older than 2 years from date adoption of this resolution.

I) This resolution shall not be exempt from the 2 year reevaluation or any repeals

This is an interesting idea, and I would be tempted to support some way of allowing the UN to automatically revisit old resolutions. However, this is not the proper forum to discuss changes in United Nations rules. Therefore, I raise a point of order against this proposal on the grounds that it proposes an alteration in the United Nations mechanism and therefore violates the rule against offering proposals to change "Game Mechanics".

[Lord] Michael Evif
Goobergunchian UN Ambassador

[ooc: Meaning that this should be brought up in the Technical forum.]

Nifty idea, but illegal as written. It proposes several concepts that could only be implemented as game mechanics:These reviews shall only be voted on when there are no other proposals on the floor to be voted on.

the amount of member nations reach the next 10,000 mark.

Any resolution that is not approved in the revaluation shall be repealed.
I'm not clear on how this is an improvement on the current repeals system. If anyone dislikes a resolution enough to campaign for a repeal, then out it goes on the vote. If nobody complains, there it stays. Seems fair to me.

I don't consider the above resolution a finished product.
Why not just keep reevaluating resolutions every 2 years and scrap clauses (D) and (E), for instance?
Why not throw the reevaluation into the queue behind any already-approved proposals? OK, except in the case of the resolutions pre-existing.

Actually, I think removing the big impacts on game mechanics would make it a better resolution.

Actually, I think removing the big impacts on game mechanics would make it a better resolution.
Any requirement that these reviews take place under a given trigger event would qualify as game mechanics: Time (2 years) Empty queue Population growth Reapproval etc.Once you remove the trigger events, all this basically says is, "UN delegates should glance through the list of passed resolutions every so often and remove the bad ones." Ultimately, just endorsing the repeals process.

Sorry, without the triggers, this proposal has no content. With them, it's illegal.

*reads*

What all of them said.

On the other hand, it is a fantastic idea. Vastiva shall be implementing sunset laws about laws soon enough.

Sunset statutes on law can entangle things in a web of beuracracy. They overcomplicate a lot of issues and more importantly they can allow certain things that should remain absolute to shift with public opinion. Checks and balances being inherent to many good governments, the ability of the public or majority to dismiss with something established by a smarter generation can lead a government quite astray. The beneficial effects of a law aren't always attributed to the law after so many years.

My government feels that the repeal process exists and if an idea, say an international statement on "Needle Sharing Prevention" later proves to be no longer valid, that the repeal process would work fine to remove those resolutions. However, some basic principals and ideas are fairly timeless and should not be subjected to automatic expiration, here I'd point to the Universal Bill of Rights resolution.

My government feels that the repeal process exists and if an idea, say an international statement on "Needle Sharing Prevention" later proves to be no longer valid, that the repeal process would work fine to remove those resolutions. However, some basic principals and ideas are fairly timeless and should not be subjected to automatic expiration, here I'd point to the Universal Bill of Rights resolution.

Oddly enough I have found one or two reasons to repeal the UBR.

But in general I agree - if enough people agree on a repeal, it will be repealed.

I have already removed this proposal.

Posting past lock, sorry Myrth...

While this resolution was illegal, the idea of Sunset Laws is a good one. I'd like to see somebody take up the challenge of creating a Sunset Commission in the UN forum, for the purpose of reviewing existing resolutions with the idea of organizing repeals of ones that have outlived their usefulness.

If anyone wants to take up the challenge, start a new topic. This one's toast.

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