NationStates Jolt Archive

End Homelessness Act
A resolution to reduce income inequality and increase basic welfare.


Category: Social Justice
Strength: Strong
Proposed by: Pleidians

Description: To Nationstates UN,

For far too long the problem of Homelessness in the World has gone Unaddressed. Some of the poor have lost their jobs putting them in positions to where they would lose adequate shelter, enough food and common dignity.

I propose the following:

1. Countries that set up 10 large homeless shelter in their Capital will receive a 10% reduction in taxes nationwide for one year.

2. Countries will have counselors to get each individual and their families on the road to a home and a job, and for curing of mental diseases and substance abuse.

a. Job counselors will find homeless individuals their first job.
b. They will receive a 3 month food voucher after the individual receives a job.

c. Their will be a residence agent who will find the family or individual a temporary residence after the person is stabilized in their own job.

d. Psychologists will be available to help those with questionable mental states. If an individual is found to be unsuitable for society , he or she is put in a mental institution for a duration to be decided by the mental health physicians at said institution. If they have family willing to take care of them residence in such institutions will be deemed unnecessary.

3. Corporations will receive incentives for hiring the former homeless.

a. Any real estate company that houses a newly hired homeless person, with home property matching the income of the individual or family, will receive 100 acres of free land to build commercial and residential neighborhoods.

b. Any large corporation that hires at least 1000 homeless people will receive 25% off their export costs.

c. Any large corporation that hires at least 2500 homeless people will receive 25% off their importing costs.

d. Any large corporation that hires at least 5000 homeless people will receive 50% off on each export and import.
e. Any large corporation that doesn't fire their employees the first year, except for employees who are not qualified for the job, will receive an new building in any city of their choosing.

f. Any large corporation that continually gives qualified , former homeless individuals raises in salary and level of success in the company based on their qualifications, skill or experience will get 3 free months of no taxes on imported and exported goods every 5 years.

4. Their will be free admission to a University or College for each family in every country who are former homeless and wish to attend college.

5. Incentives for working family's.

a. If a family, with one family member making at least 50,000.00 , takes in a homeless person or persons for 3 months until said person or persons gets a job and place of residence, will receive free meals at all restaurants for 6 months.

b. If a family, with one family member making at least 100,000.00 a year and gives the homeless person or persons a job at the place of business that person works at in addition to sharing their home with the person or persons for 6 months, will receive one year of free meals at all restaurants.

6. Any country that reaches a total of 100,000 former homeless taken out of property will give a 500,000.00 voucher to the industry of its own choosing in hopes of doubling the production of said industry. Only those industries doing above average production will be considered.

Approvals: 3 (Culex, WZ Forums, Noazia)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 143 more approvals)

Voting Ends: Tue Feb 8 2005

By giving definite figures your measure will be too much in some areas and too little in others.

Rose,
Acting UN representative,
The Black New World

That is not necessarily true. The proposal was very specific.

Todd

Who is funding all this?

Okay,

The governments of each country would fund it but then the corporations of each country would get involved too realizing the benefits of all this. The reduction of taxes and import/export costs for corporations would boost the economy and evening out the costs between what is put into the homelessness effort by the government of each country and from the boom in the economy via corporations import/exporting costs, hiring of new personnel. So if you think about it, if the economy increases yet the gov't spends on gov't programs for the homeless it will be like not losing a dime. Corporations would match for every dollar the gov't spends on this. Plus there will be an increase in good will across the world. What's wrong with that?

greetings,
While your proposal is noble and humanitarian i dont see how it can protect these people other than Board and lodgings, and awarding industrialists with financial taxbreaks.
In most homeless situations you will find that the root cause may actually not be poverty but social. It is a well known fact that most homeless people have been made so due to addictions to Drugs, Legal and illegal, family quarrells, where unruly teens are thrown out by there "pushed too far" families.
The meals and temporary accomodation for these Homeless peoples are often supplied by humanitarian organisations. It also comes to mind that many homeless people are not willing to cooperate with social services in the task of getting back on the road to fiscal stability.
I do not envy your task in trying to get this one through and i applaud you for trying.
President Murphy,
UN Delegate to the Realm of Hibernia.

greetings,
While your proposal is noble and humanitarian i dont see how it can protect these people other than Board and lodgings, and awarding industrialists with financial taxbreaks.
In most homeless situations you will find that the root cause may actually not be poverty but social. It is a well known fact that most homeless people have been made so due to addictions to Drugs, Legal and illegal, family quarrells, where unruly teens are thrown out by there "pushed too far" families.
The meals and temporary accomodation for these Homeless peoples are often supplied by humanitarian organisations. It also comes to mind that many homeless people are not willing to cooperate with social services in the task of getting back on the road to fiscal stability.
I do not envy your task in trying to get this one through and i applaud you for trying.
President Murphy,
UN Delegate to the Realm of Hibernia.

And lets not forget all the kids who run away from home because their parents are abusing them, either physically or sexually. That it's not that they don't want to co-operate with social services, but after years of being raped or beaten by those who they trusted they are scared of people in authority. And that being returned to their families is not an option because the abuse will only continue.

1. Countries that set up 10 large homeless shelter in their Capital will receive a 10% reduction in taxes nationwide for one year.

What taxes are you talking about?

If you mean the national government's tax on the citizens, then I don't see how this makes sense. Take away government income so we can increase social welfare spending?

If you mean some sort of tax that the national government pays (maybe you think that nations pay taxes to the UN?), then I am again confused. I am unaware of any tax that my nation pays. Correct me if I'm wrong. If I am, then I shall be forced to execute my chief financial adviser, and he tells the funniest jokes, so I really hope it doesn't come to that.

In response to the post about sexually abused children who run away...well, that's what the counselors will be for. To help them. That's why I added it into the proposal.

As for the kind of taxes, well, first of all, someone needs to have some kind of initiative to help the homelessness if they aren't going to volunteer. Cutting taxes on imports and exports to your respective countries won't make a big dent on the effects of this bill on your countries.

I realize this isn't the most comprehensive bill mentioned on Homelessness, but it's better than nothing, not to mention the fact that I could only put so many words into the proposal (remember, there is a word limit). We can always pass it then amend it later. Even 3 days later if it needs refining. When the U.S Constitution was passed do you think we said, "That's it , we don't need to add any amendments"?

I realize that helping the homeless has to be a voluntary thing, but adding this bill will help many in the virtual countries we've created. Ask yourself this, is it more harmful or is it more good? We haven't even given it a chance to go into effect yet. After all, this is not a ludicrous proposal.

If you want me to resubmit it in a more revised version tell me how you want it done.

End Homelessness Act
A resolution to reduce income inequality and increase basic welfare.


Category: Social Justice
Strength: Strong
Proposed by: Pleidians

Good, belongs in that category.



Description: To Nationstates UN,

For far too long the problem of Homelessness in the World has gone Unaddressed. Some of the poor have lost their jobs putting them in positions to where they would lose adequate shelter, enough food and common dignity.

They lack adequate shelter, food, and dignity.



I propose the following:

1. Countries that set up 10 large homeless shelter in their Capital will receive a 10% reduction in taxes nationwide for one year.

We have 36 such shelters already. Environmental necessity. So you're going to reduce the taxes... from whom?



2. Countries will have counselors to get each individual and their families on the road to a home and a job, and for curing of mental diseases and substance abuse.

Counselors don't cure disease.



a. Job counselors will find homeless individuals their first job.
b. They will receive a 3 month food voucher after the individual receives a job.

Why find the job and further reduce dignity?

And three months? Why three months?



c. Their will be a residence agent who will find the family or individual a temporary residence after the person is stabilized in their own job.


There will be... why?



d. Psychologists will be available to help those with questionable mental states. If an individual is found to be unsuitable for society , he or she is put in a mental institution for a duration to be decided by the mental health physicians at said institution. If they have family willing to take care of them residence in such institutions will be deemed unnecessary.

Ooooh. Legal jail for everyone I don't like!



3. Corporations will receive incentives for hiring the former homeless.

a. Any real estate company that houses a newly hired homeless person, with home property matching the income of the individual or family, will receive 100 acres of free land to build commercial and residential neighborhoods.


Uh, no.



b. Any large corporation that hires at least 1000 homeless people will receive 25% off their export costs.

Costs to whom?



c. Any large corporation that hires at least 2500 homeless people will receive 25% off their importing costs.

See above.



d. Any large corporation that hires at least 5000 homeless people will receive 50% off on each export and import.
e. Any large corporation that doesn't fire their employees the first year, except for employees who are not qualified for the job, will receive an new building in any city of their choosing.

So I can't fire them? Bad.



f. Any large corporation that continually gives qualified , former homeless individuals raises in salary and level of success in the company based on their qualifications, skill or experience will get 3 free months of no taxes on imported and exported goods every 5 years.

No.



4. Their will be free admission to a University or College for each family in every country who are former homeless and wish to attend college.

No. Those who might qualify, maybe, but no free rides.



5. Incentives for working family's.

a. If a family, with one family member making at least 50,000.00 , takes in a homeless person or persons for 3 months until said person or persons gets a job and place of residence, will receive free meals at all restaurants for 6 months.

No.



b. If a family, with one family member making at least 100,000.00 a year and gives the homeless person or persons a job at the place of business that person works at in addition to sharing their home with the person or persons for 6 months, will receive one year of free meals at all restaurants.


No.



6. Any country that reaches a total of 100,000 former homeless taken out of property will give a 500,000.00 voucher to the industry of its own choosing in hopes of doubling the production of said industry. Only those industries doing above average production will be considered.

Approvals: 3 (Culex, WZ Forums, Noazia)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 143 more approvals)

Voting Ends: Tue Feb 8 2005


No.

There's no point on discussing this issue anymore, besides you have already made up your mind/s whether or not you like it or not. If I followed your suggestions I would have about 20 words to say. This is the last post I'm going to make on this subject because it's pointless anyway, you're just going to knock down anything I have to say.

:rolleyes:

Your proposal is good and I even approved it already. But I still have many questions for this resolution by the way. Let me elaborate those one by one:

1. Can corporations contribute to housing programs other than giving incentives to them?
2. Countries that set up 10 large homeless shelter in their Capital will receive a 10% reduction in taxes nationwide for one year. How about incresing the number of large homeless shelters to be reduced in tax by 15 or maybe 20, because you can't end homelessness if you left other homeless behind?
3. Where do we get the funding and how much is it? Will the U.N. held the cost? Or the nations? Or the rich nations?
4. Their will be free admission to a University or College for each family in every country who are former homeless and wish to attend college. Why not give incentives to the unibersities or colleges?
5. Why not exempting nations with 50% or above homelessness rate be exempted from taxes?

Regional Delegate and Leader,
The Empire of Kevin Islands
UNITED STATES OF GREAT NATIONS REGION


Join our region if you like.

We can always pass it then amend it later.
No, you can't. Amendments are forbidden in UN resolutions, for more information I suggest you read the "Before you make a resolution" sticky at the top of the page.

No, you can't. Amendments are forbidden in UN resolutions, for more information I suggest you read the "Before you make a resolution" sticky at the top of the page.
Correct.

There's no point on discussing this issue anymore, besides you have already made up your mind/s whether or not you like it or not.

Sure there is. Proposals can be improved, you know. Most of the best Proposals have gone through several versions.

I think this resolution would increase homelessness rather than reduce it. What's a week on the streets when as a consequence you could be entitled to an automatic job, free food, free university education... etc etc. This doesn't grant them equality, this gives homeless people an advantage- a huge one at that!

And some of the economic priviliges are ridiculous. A free building in any city of their choice? Free 100 acres of land, per homeless person they employ?? This does not sound cost-effective...

Listen man, it's great you want to try to end homelessness and all, but let's face it, there will always be homeless people in the world, no matter how much you try to end it, the growth of the world exceeds its ability to employ and create. Maybe this would be a practical proposal to a single country, but to the U.N. which has Billions of people under its juresdiction, this just won't work.

3. Corporations will receive incentives for hiring the former homeless.

a. Any real estate company that houses a newly hired homeless person, with home property matching the income of the individual or family, will receive 100 acres of free land to build commercial and residential neighborhoods.

b. Any large corporation that hires at least 1000 homeless people will receive 25% off their export costs.

c. Any large corporation that hires at least 2500 homeless people will receive 25% off their importing costs.

d. Any large corporation that hires at least 5000 homeless people will receive 50% off on each export and import.
e. Any large corporation that doesn't fire their employees the first year, except for employees who are not qualified for the job, will receive an new building in any city of their choosing.

f. Any large corporation that continually gives qualified , former homeless individuals raises in salary and level of success in the company based on their qualifications, skill or experience will get 3 free months of no taxes on imported and exported goods every 5 years.

So, Businesses ought to leave everyone sleep in the road to have a nice and cheap staff?


a. If a family, with one family member making at least 50,000.00 , takes in a homeless person or persons for 3 months until said person or persons gets a job and place of residence, will receive free meals at all restaurants for 6 months.

b. If a family, with one family member making at least 100,000.00 a year and gives the homeless person or persons a job at the place of business that person works at in addition to sharing their home with the person or persons for 6 months, will receive one year of free meals at all restaurants.


It's so nice to have a servant at home without paying him! You can fire him when ever you want. And the top thing, the restaurant at the corner offer you meals!

Homeless is a nice subject. But I think you're taking it by the wrong way. This act must be humanitarian, not offering a new privilege to dominant classes and corporations.

Listen man, it's great you want to try to end homelessness and all, but let's face it, there will always be homeless people in the world, no matter how much you try to end it, the growth of the world exceeds its ability to employ and create. Maybe this would be a practical proposal to a single country, but to the U.N. which has Billions of people under its juresdiction, this just won't work.

We disagree.

In Vastiva, there are no homeless people. None. Nada. Zip. Zero. Not a one. Everyone has a place to dwell, in warmth. Every city has a facility of "sleeping chambers" which give approximately two coffins worth of space to a traveller - enough to sleep within, in privacy, and to have some small comforts present. These are available as long-term "houses" for those less "financially solvent", and on the Sultans Mercy.

Does everyone have a place to dwell if they so choose? Yes. Problem solved.

If they choose not to, that is their choice.

If this resoultuion passes i wanna be a homeless person!! (or a ceo of a large corperation) I can't decide. This roultion seems overly generous and will probally bankrupt UN member countries. However, it makes it pretty hard to stay homeless so i guess it works.

If this resoultuion passes i wanna be a homeless person!! (or a ceo of a large corperation) I can't decide. This roultion seems overly generous and will probally bankrupt UN member countries. However, it makes it pretty hard to stay homeless so i guess it works.
Well... it works if you want to further increase the wealth of the corporations.

The idea of a proposal to aid homelessness is a good idea. This resolution just isn't, in my view, the way to go about it. Granting corporations this kind of compensation is ludicruous.

As to the counselors... there are a myriad of reasons why people become homeless. It seems, however, that a belief in their ability to improve their circumstances tends to be one of them. This belief system tends to also include a distrust of those who are part of the "system." I wouldn't count on a counselor being able to do much more than complete the paperwork involved (if they'd even be able to do that), let alone truly help.

Why not see if you can come up with some other kind of way to institute assistance for homeless people. Granting corporations the amount of subsidy this proposal entails goes way too far.

There's no point on discussing this issue anymore, besides you have already made up your mind/s whether or not you like it or not. If I followed your suggestions I would have about 20 words to say. This is the last post I'm going to make on this subject because it's pointless anyway, you're just going to knock down anything I have to say.
And I wouldn't take my toys and go home just yet. Simply because there are some issues with the mechanics of the proposal doesn't mean the idea doesn't have merit. Simply means it needs a little work.

It's great to see a proposal that isn't modeled closely on RL legislation.

But... My nationstate is largely tropical beach. Large segments of my populace have no use for a permanent residence.

It's great to see a proposal that isn't modeled closely on RL legislation.

But... My nationstate is largely tropical beach. Large segments of my populace have no use for a permanent residence.

How about ownership of a hammock?

A hammock is not a home; it's more like a fashion accessory.

Running water, bathrooms, electricity - those are the things you need when you live on a beach. Our entire region has been doused in DDT, so no need for mosquito netting, even.

Wouldn't it be far simpler to round up the homeless and shoot them?

Wouldn't it be far simpler to round up the homeless and shoot them?

Combine that idea with the "feed the world" idea and it seems like a perfect solution :}

DLE has 1,782 homeless people. Of those, 913 were in the process of securing apartments for themselves on Terrator. The rest have chosen to give up civilization for six months as part of a project to get an idea of how people could survive in the wilderness and are not lacking for money.

I don't see this as a problem.