NationStates Jolt Archive


The Caligula Prostitution Act

Krankor
04-02-2005, 15:50
Designed to be compatible with the Sex Industry Workers Act, and all other UN resolutions regarding both sex and commerce.

RECALLING the resolution "Sex Industry Worker Act", Resolution #7 (Sexual Freedom), and Resolution #53 (Universal Freedom of Choice), which make clear the favourable stance of the UN regarding the commercialization of sex,

AFFIRMING in accordance with the above mentioned resolutions that the State has the right to exploit the commercial potential of its citizens' bodies, by encouraging the individual's "right" to buy or sell bodies if they decide to,

ASSUMING a decrease in Sexually Transmitted Diseases, as well as an decrease in crime, and lower pressure on police, in a situation where prostitution is legal and operated by the government,

ACKNOWLEDGING that health and moral risks exist, even with legal prostitution,

1. DECLARES the establishment of official State-operated houses of prostitution in each Region with UN representation,

2. SPECIFIES that said official houses of prostitution be staffed entirely by the spouses of that Region's UN members, provided that said spouses are not children,

3. FURTHER SPECIFIES that the proceeds earned from said official houses of prostitution be distributed equally to all member nations of that region,

4. FURTHER DECLARES the establishment of an official UN-operated house of prostitution,

5. FURTHER SPECIFIES that said official UN house of prostitution be staffed entirely by the spouses of UN Delegates, provided that said spouses are not children,

6. FURTHER SPECIFIES that the proceeds earned from said official UN house of prostitution be distributed equally to all UN member nations,

7. REQUESTS all staff members of the above designated official houses of prostitution to stimulate an attractive environment for their clients, and advises competitive parity with old "unofficial" prostitution areas in towns and cities,

8. CONDEMNS child abuse and slavery in accordance with earlier UN resolutions (End slavery, Child Labor, Outlaw Pedophilia, The Child Protection Act, Ban Trafficking in Persons, etc) and advises strong punishments against people involved with these despicable crimes that explicitly are not covered by legal prostitution.
The Irish Brotherhood
04-02-2005, 16:43
I don't like this at all. Im fine with making prostitution legal, it's a womans/mans right to sell his/her body. Yet, this is suggesting that we set up official houses/offices especially for prostitution. By doing this, you will encourage young people (especially girls) to go out and make a career out of this. They will see these 'houses' and think to themselves that this could be a career. Don't get me wrong, it is their choice, but I still wouldn't want my daughter sleeping with people for a living. I don't think shouting from the roof tops, promoting prostitution is the best thing for our children.
Neo-Anarchists
04-02-2005, 16:45
2. SPECIFIES that said official houses of prostitution be staffed entirely by the spouses of that Region's UN members, provided that said spouses are not children,
Do I hear your proposition correctly when you say "the spouses of that Region's UN members"?
By that, do you mean that we are meant to give up our life-partners for prostitution?
I sincerely doubt they will approve of such a measure...

I humbly request an explanation of what this is all about.
-Designated Spokesperson for Neo-Anarchists
Liberal Weiners
04-02-2005, 16:55
I get the feeling that this is an argument against the resolution up for vote. It's one thing to allow other people's wives to become prostitutes, another to have you're own wife become one.
DemonLordEnigma
04-02-2005, 17:08
This is a joke, right?

It's one thing to allow people the option of being prostitutes. It's another to force them to be.
McGonagall
04-02-2005, 17:27
Obviously posted in an attempt to trivialise The Sex Industry Workers Act Resolution presently being debated. It fails because sex is a private concern here and not for government legislation and therefore if the author is serious they should wait until the Sex Industry Workers Act is passed.Then attempt to repeal that and the associated legislation.

Oh and why this obsession with prostitutes there are plenty of other types of sex workers that need protection and will receive it under the Sex Industry Workers Act.
Mikitivity
04-02-2005, 20:23
OOC: Actually this is a well written parody of a 1979 porn film that stared Malcom McDowell. It isn't mine, but dang I do feel old now that it appears that not everybody is catching the reference.

The following reference is family safe:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080491/

In the movie, McDowell's charater, the Roman Emperor, rules that in order to make money that the Roman Senator's wives become prostitutes. It was done to embarrass them all.

Here is what Wiki adds:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caligula

There are famous stories that he tried to make his beloved stallion, Incitatus, a senator. However, this could have been a political statement that he felt his horse as well qualified for the position as any of the incumbents. Other stories are of incest with his sisters (especially Drusilla), a brothel he set up at the palace including prominent senators and their wives, his campaign in Britain ending with his soldiers collecting seashells as "spoils of the sea" in his battle with the sea god Neptune, wanting to erect a statue of himself in Jerusalem (his good friend Herod Agrippa stopped it), and labeling himself a "god". Ancient sources classify him as insane and a tyrant. However, modern sources attempt to explain his insanity as the product of a painful childhood or that he was simply misunderstood. Historians tend to agree on one fact: he was extremely unqualified and unprepared to become Emperor.


The movie is not something I'd recommend for children. It is honestly a porn film and was not really designed to be historically accurate. However, it actually has a plot.

A friend of mine in college worked in a video rental store and claimed this was the most popular "back room" rental. *shrug*
TilEnca
04-02-2005, 20:53
I got the reference, and have actually seen the film. It wasn't that good. Plus it was very, very strange.

But hey - if this passes my husband can divorce me and we create a new definition for marriage, saying that anyone who registers for a marriage won't be classed as marriage, but will get all the benifits and so forth. So no one in my nation will have a spouse, and consequently this will have no effect in TilEnca.

Isn't the law cool?
Leningra
04-02-2005, 23:01
I don't like this at all. Im fine with making prostitution legal, it's a womans/mans right to sell his/her body. Yet, this is suggesting that we set up official houses/offices especially for prostitution. By doing this, you will encourage young people (especially girls) to go out and make a career out of this. They will see these 'houses' and think to themselves that this could be a career. Don't get me wrong, it is their choice, but I still wouldn't want my daughter sleeping with people for a living. I don't think shouting from the roof tops, promoting prostitution is the best thing for our children.
In my country, we have state sponsored whore houses
TilEnca
05-02-2005, 01:42
In my country, we have state sponsored whore houses

And are people forced to work their against their will?
RomeW
05-02-2005, 04:01
IC: We prefer not to be reminded of Caligula, so this does not receive our vote.

OOC: I have a hard time believing Caligula's madness. Suetonius' writings paint an Emperor who was at first a very noble and just ruler who then became insane. In fact, Suetonius devotes 38 verses (out of 60) in his "Life Of Caligula" devoted to "Caligula the monster" (his words, not mine). Now, the sheer amount of information provided by Suetonius regarding Caligula's "quality" and the fact he accepts another side of Caligula could be present suggests that what Suetonius writes might be true- but the reality is that with Suetonius going out of his way to debase Caligula, it's hard to believe everything as it's horrendously biased.
Druidville
05-02-2005, 04:05
Hysterical. :D Lovely Satire.
Flibbleites
05-02-2005, 07:09
A porn movie with a plot, I had no idea such a thing existed.

Does this mean that the proposal can be deleated for being a joke proposal?
The Most Glorious Hack
05-02-2005, 09:03
Does this mean that the proposal can be deleated for being a joke proposal?

I suppose. This time, however, it was deleted for violating metagame rules (that bit about sharing profits with the region).
Vastiva
05-02-2005, 09:15
Violates every anti-slavery resolution AND was in incredibly poor taste.

Proposer is in obvious need of psychiatric help.







.... or a good nuking.
Texan Hotrodders
05-02-2005, 09:29
.... or a good nuking.

I second the motion to nuke.
RomeW
05-02-2005, 09:31
I second the motion to nuke.

I third the motion.

(New trend- nuke nations who don't follow the rules. Should keep them in line... :D)
Krankor
05-02-2005, 20:30
I third the motion.

(New trend- nuke nations who don't follow the rules. Should keep them in line... :D)

Except, of course, I followed the rules...and sorry, I didn't get nuked. There were some metadiscrepencies with my proposal which will be corrected on re-submission. Benefits of the nation's sponsored house of prostitution will go only to that nation. The UN House of Prostitution (how's that for a redundancy?) part of the proposal will be dropped.

One of the main points of the proposal is that, as stated elsewhere, those who are willing to give the "choice" or "right" of the desperate act of selling one's own body should have no qualms about their spouses being given the same "right" or "choice", especially if it's for the benefit of their state.
TilEnca
05-02-2005, 21:46
Except, of course, I followed the rules...and sorry, I didn't get nuked. There were some metadiscrepencies with my proposal which will be corrected on re-submission. Benefits of the nation's sponsored house of prostitution will go only to that nation. The UN House of Prostitution (how's that for a redundancy?) part of the proposal will be dropped.

One of the main points of the proposal is that, as stated elsewhere, those who are willing to give the "choice" or "right" of the desperate act of selling one's own body should have no qualms about their spouses being given the same "right" or "choice", especially if it's for the benefit of their state.

If the spouses have a choice, that is not so much a problem. But the original proposal implied that ALL spouses would have to work in a brothel whether they wanted to or not. Which is not a matter of choice, but a matter of slavery.
RomeW
05-02-2005, 22:27
One of the main points of the proposal is that, as stated elsewhere, those who are willing to give the "choice" or "right" of the desperate act of selling one's own body should have no qualms about their spouses being given the same "right" or "choice", especially if it's for the benefit of their state.

I think that's kind of a harsh generalization. You can't assume that people who support prostitution are "desperate" and would readily turn every aspect of their lives into a careless, promiscuous free-for-all. I support it on the lines that it's about human rights, in this case the right to do as you please with your own body. Technically speaking, that right would go to those spouses as well, so that point is also redundant.
Vastiva
06-02-2005, 04:37
Except, of course, I followed the rules...and sorry, I didn't get nuked. There were some metadiscrepencies with my proposal which will be corrected on re-submission. Benefits of the nation's sponsored house of prostitution will go only to that nation. The UN House of Prostitution (how's that for a redundancy?) part of the proposal will be dropped.

One of the main points of the proposal is that, as stated elsewhere, those who are willing to give the "choice" or "right" of the desperate act of selling one's own body should have no qualms about their spouses being given the same "right" or "choice", especially if it's for the benefit of their state.

Ah, but you proposed slavery, which is a different enchilada.

An illegal proposal. Personally, we would move to have you banned for bad taste and illegal proposals. Or beaten with fresh trout, either works.
Flibbleites
06-02-2005, 06:59
An illegal proposal. Personally, we would move to have you banned for bad taste and illegal proposals. Or beaten with fresh trout, either works.
I vote for the trout.
RomeW
06-02-2005, 09:11
I vote for the trout.

Well, I'd rather eat the trout...though that does sound painful...
Vastiva
06-02-2005, 10:13
Well, I'd rather eat the trout...though that does sound painful...

Won't the beating tenderize the trout?
The Black New World
06-02-2005, 10:47
The trout may catch something...

Giordano,
Acting Senior UN representative,
The Black New World
Krankor
06-02-2005, 18:08
Considering the magnitude of Krankor's Trout-Fishing Industry, it wouldn't be too wise to get into a trout-slapping contest with us.

Don't waste your trout. Recruit them into your sex-workers industry. Aside from the improvement in odor, no one will notice the difference.
RomeW
06-02-2005, 20:21
Won't the beating tenderize the trout?

True. *wields trout*
Vastiva
06-02-2005, 22:32
Considering the magnitude of Krankor's Trout-Fishing Industry, it wouldn't be too wise to get into a trout-slapping contest with us.

Don't waste your trout. Recruit them into your sex-workers industry. Aside from the improvement in odor, no one will notice the difference.


*dumps powdered uranium and assorted heavy metals into Krankor's waterways*

What Trout fishing industry?

Sorry, were we thinking out loud? :p

On a more serious note - your proposal has done nothing but show you as a slaver with no serious points against the idea of legalized prostitution except "it's ICKY!" which is not only not a point, but a lame waste of time.