NationStates Jolt Archive

Should the world be under 1 government.

I belive that if all mankind was united then a lot of the worlds problems would be easy to solve, no more wars would me military budgets could be reduced massively down to levels needed for a world police agency. all the extra funds could be redirected into projects to bring the standard of living for all mankind up to equal levels, we could take just 10 % of all military budgets and put that into the advancement of space exploration where by we could begin the exploration and colonization of near by worlds and soon to the whole galaxy where by we would sooner or later find other forms of life, thru all of this mankind will prosper and grow never worrying about war, hungary, sickness or doing without the basic needs and pleasures that make life worth while.

Hell no.

Hell no.

Why??

Because people of different regions of the world come from vastly different religious, social, political, and cultural backgrounds. People need a government that is sensitive to that and can enact legislation based on the people's specific needs. Throughout history, when foreign rulers have held power (i.e., India, South Africa, original 13 colonies) unrest has always surfaced. What's the point of a government if it can't truly represent the people it's supposed to govern?

Because people of different regions of the world come from vastly different religious, social, political, and cultural backgrounds. People need a government that is sensitive to that and can enact legislation based on the people's specific needs. Throughout history, when foreign rulers have held power (i.e., India, South Africa, original 13 colonies) unrest has always surfaced. What's the point of a government if it can't truly represent the people it's supposed to govern?

I agree with this to a point, but also would like to point out that many governments, like the United States, practice Federalism -- and divide governments between: national, regional, and various local levels.

For example, my city / county / state / national government are:

Davis / Yolo / California / United States

There are laws, like I can be cited if I snore too loud, that are local laws. Other cities in Yolo county to not have the same city ordinaces. Furthermore, the procedure by which I vote and how my taxes are paid is based on county laws and are not uniform with people say in Alameda (Berekely and Oakland) California. However, as California residents, if I live here in Davis or in say Richmond, there are other laws, such as traffic laws, that I need to adhere to, that do not always apply to people living say in New York or Boston. Finally, the rules and rights that might apply to me in my town or if I were to move to Chicago, are not necessary similar to what would apply to me if I moved to Dresden or Frankfurt, Germany.

Now I'm not saying that we should give away our local rights. In fact, I feel that we've done too much of that, and I would argue that we need to actually protect local governments from larger "federal" governments.

But at the same time, I've been very proactive in this United Nations, because I recognize that there are certain issues where there will be a benefit to collective action:

Tsunami Detection and Warning,
Asteroid Detection and Warning,
Coordination of Humanitarian Aid,
Research and Cultural Exchange Programs,
Medical Care, &
Resource & Environmental Management.

I'd actually argue that by participating in this forum that each of us recognizes the value of a larger federal or confederation of governments. I think the idea is not that far from the direction we are heading, but I'd really like to point out that the above list is not something we'd all agree to. There are obviously many people who would want to add to this list, just as there are those whom would like to cut down my list.

The reason I've stuck around so long in this game, is it gives us a chance to test various issues and see just how strong (or weak) the interest in a collaboration or standardization is. That is why I'm always so interested in recording / archiving the debates and resolution outcomes. :)

I'll be blunt.

If you can't get along with those in a different area, with different values, how would you like being ruled by them?

Any other questions?

I am assuming you are referring to the real-world, in which case, yes. But that is little more than an ideal, and well, at a practical level, might be difficult.

I don't think humanity is ready for a single world government yet. Many people would violently oppose it.

I don't think humanity is ready for a single world government yet. Many people would violently oppose it.

Me being one of them. Well, maybe not violently. But loudly, at least. I'd probably break some stuff too, just for the heck of it.

I agree with this to a point, but also would like to point out that many governments, like the United States, practice Federalism -- and divide governments between: national, regional, and various local levels.

For example, my city / county / state / national government are:

Davis / Yolo / California / United States

There are laws, like I can be cited if I snore too loud, that are local laws. Other cities in Yolo county to not have the same city ordinaces. Furthermore, the procedure by which I vote and how my taxes are paid is based on county laws and are not uniform with people say in Alameda (Berekely and Oakland) California. However, as California residents, if I live here in Davis or in say Richmond, there are other laws, such as traffic laws, that I need to adhere to, that do not always apply to people living say in New York or Boston. Finally, the rules and rights that might apply to me in my town or if I were to move to Chicago, are not necessary similar to what would apply to me if I moved to Dresden or Frankfurt, Germany.

Now I'm not saying that we should give away our local rights. In fact, I feel that we've done too much of that, and I would argue that we need to actually protect local governments from larger "federal" governments.

But at the same time, I've been very proactive in this United Nations, because I recognize that there are certain issues where there will be a benefit to collective action:

Tsunami Detection and Warning,
Asteroid Detection and Warning,
Coordination of Humanitarian Aid,
Research and Cultural Exchange Programs,
Medical Care, &
Resource & Environmental Management.

I'd actually argue that by participating in this forum that each of us recognizes the value of a larger federal or confederation of governments. I think the idea is not that far from the direction we are heading, but I'd really like to point out that the above list is not something we'd all agree to. There are obviously many people who would want to add to this list, just as there are those whom would like to cut down my list.

The reason I've stuck around so long in this game, is it gives us a chance to test various issues and see just how strong (or weak) the interest in a collaboration or standardization is. That is why I'm always so interested in recording / archiving the debates and resolution outcomes. :)

Thanks Mikitivity
You put all of that together very diplomaticlly
and it is also very tru that this planet will someday be under 1 rule but also with all the local governments too, that is how you will have local repersentation, yes right now the world is not ready with all the petty differences that are around, these things take time and they also cant happen very quickly if the need was to arise, say 1st contact with other life from another world would cause us all to join together possibly or a huge world wide disaster might force us all together, there are many different possible ways this could and sooner or later will happen, lets just hope that the final way it comes together is peaceful. and also that it is geared toward the betterment of all mankind.

By the way mikitivity i was born close to where you live, i was born in modesto which i am sure most people know where that is now thanks to scott peterson but now i am in texas for now.
Master Tom

Nations like us have certain attributes (Pterodactyls are citizens) that would make us incompatible with other nations. Just one of the many reasons why a united earth government would lead to planetary war.

No the world should not be ruled under one government, that is clearly madness if you ask me. Everyone has different ways and if we just have one way people will revolt because they won't believe in that way the government is running things.

Oh, *hell* no. persoanlly, I dislike being told what to do from some rich b@str@d across the continent - the idea of someone even considering being ruled across an ocean makes me laugh. People - bread & butter, salt-of-the-earth workers - would tell you to kindly show it up your butt. Just... save your self some unnessecary medical bills, mmkay?

OOC: That would pretty much scrap the game we're playing here.
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What difference will it make? We'll still ruin the planet in 25 years anyway.

Gamewise: it'd ruin the game.