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Equality of The Sexes is the sister proposal of 'The Sexes Rights Law'

The United Nations notes with sorrow the precedent in history and contemporary times where male dominated cultures infringe upon the rights of women. The following document is intended to both relieve and resolve much of these discriminative actions, not for one sex, but for all.

The United Nations :

Re-affirms and Re-states : Article 4 of The Universal Bill of Rights, implemented by the Nation States United Nations on Fri Aug 8 2003.

Deplores : The intimidation of one sex or more by another or others, whether that sex is chosen or by birth.

Is Deeply Disturbed By : Government encouraged segregation of the sexes and suppression based on sex.

Does Formally Recognise and Declare : That the rights of all sexes are equal and that this equality must be preserved in the interests of the rights of all citizens of Nation States United Nation member states.

RESOLVES :

1. The Nation States United Nations legalises divorce, in all member states, for people in abusive marriages.

2. The Nation States United Nations calls upon all employers within member-states to provide equal chance at employment/ranking for all sexes.

The above conditions are recommendations applicable within reason in that they are open to interpretation by a member states legal system in regards to each individual case, under the condition that the legal system must act in an un-biased fashion in regard to these cases.

3. No UN member nation shall bar illustrations of internal or external genitalia when such illustrations are used for educational or informative purposes including those parts that are deemed 'unnecessary' for reproduction and/or offensive.

4. Cosmetic surgery on genitalia at birth because a child's genitalia does not conform to what a nation believes as 'normal' for that sex is hereby prohibited in all UN member nations.

5. The practice of infanticide based only on the sex of the baby, or the ambiguity of sex, shall be prohibited in all UN member nations.

6. Religious organisations, and jobs where you are required to play a role (eg actors) are exempt from clause 2b.
As a tribute to Desdemona we thought we'd push this trough next week. Any comments?

Giordano,
Acting Senior UN representative,
The Black New World,
Delegate to The Order of The Valiant States

Point 5 is a bit strange, infanticide in any way should not be allowed...

But other then that it's a very good thing.

Point 5 is a bit strange, infanticide in any way should not be allowed...

Euthanasia on infants is already legal (wich I support). I didn't want a clash.

Giordano,
Acting Senior UN representative,
The Black New World,
Delegate to The Order of The Valiant States

perhaps you should then state that Euthanasia rights should not be given or taken based on sexes (since this should also count for adults)

perhaps you should then state that Euthanasia rights should not be given or taken based on sexes (since this should also count for adults)
Good idea but I think that may clash with the resolution. Anyone want to clear this up for me?

Giordano,
Acting Senior UN representative,
The Black New World,
Delegate to The Order of The Valiant States

Come see the newness.

Equality of The Sexes is the sister proposal of 'The Sexes Rights Law'

The United Nations notes with sorrow the precedent in history and contemporary times where male dominated cultures infringe upon the rights of women. The following document is intended to both relieve and resolve much of these discriminative actions, not for one sex, but for all.

The United Nations :

Re-affirms and Re-states : Article 4 of The Universal Bill of Rights, implemented by the Nation States United Nations on Fri Aug 8 2003.

Deplores : The intimidation of one sex or more by another or others, whether that sex is chosen or by birth.

Is Deeply Disturbed By : Government encouraged segregation of the sexes and suppression based on sex.

Does Formally Recognise and Declare : That the rights of all sexes are equal and that this equality must be preserved in the interests of the rights of all citizens of Nation States United Nation member states.

RESOLVES :

1. The Nation States United Nations legalises divorce, in all member states, for people in abusive marriages.

2. The Nation States United Nations calls upon all employers within member-states to provide equal chance at employment/ranking for all sexes.

The above conditions are recommendations applicable within reason in that they are open to interpretation by a member states legal system in regards to each individual case, under the condition that the legal system must act in an un-biased fashion in regard to these cases.

3. No UN member nation shall bar illustrations of internal or external genitalia when such illustrations are used for educational or informative purposes including those parts that are deemed 'unnecessary' for reproduction and/or offensive.

4. Cosmetic surgery on genitalia at birth because a child's genitalia does not conform to what a nation believes as 'normal' for that sex is hereby prohibited in all UN member nations.

5. The practice of infanticide based only on the sex of the baby, or the ambiguity of sex, shall be prohibited in all UN member nations.

6. Religious organisations, sex workers, and jobs where you are required to play a role (eg actors and models) are exempt from clause 2b.

You do realize you're outlawing male circumcision - though it may be argued that this is also done for health purposes.

Would like to see a more broad exception for employment for which sex is a relevant hiring discrimination (can't think of any off the top of my head, besides waitresses at "Hooters").

You do realize you're outlawing male circumcision - though it may be argued that this is also done for health purposes.

Would like to see a more broad exception for employment for which sex is a relevant hiring discrimination (can't think of any off the top of my head, besides waitresses at "Hooters").
We have put in an exception for sex workers and only cosmetic surgery is banned. Including cosmetic circumcision which I personally find incredibly strange.

Giordano,
Acting Senior UN representative,
The Black New World,
Delegate to The Order of The Valiant States

Including cosmetic circumcision which I personally find incredibly strange.


Ug. I won't be able to eat dinner tonight. Thanks a lot.

Yes no sex should be more superior in my opinion. But some of those points are a little weird

I'm going to try to go along and explain all the clauses, The Black New World, but since it has been quite a while, feel free to shoot me in the face if I get it wrong, ;)

Here we go :

Equality of The Sexes is the sister proposal of 'The Sexes Rights Law'Aye ! Which means this one is good too, and you should all endorse it when the time comes, yes you should, ;)

The United Nations notes with sorrow the precedent in history and contemporary times where male dominated cultures infringe upon the rights of women. The following document is intended to both relieve and resolve much of these discriminative actions, not for one sex, but for all.Come to think of it, I changed this to be more neutral on my half, basically " one sex over another " kind of thing to stop all the " MY NATION OF DEEP VOICED AMAZON WOMEN DO NOT FEAR YOU WEAK LITTLE MEN ! WEAK ! WEAK ! WEAK ! " ... kind of " arguments "

The United Nations :Operative clauses time ! Its just like christmas again ! :DRe-affirms and Re-states : Article 4 of The Universal Bill of Rights, implemented by the Nation States United Nations on Fri Aug 8 2003.Which reads as :Article 4 -- All human beings have the right to be treated equally under the law of any member nation.So there, moving along,Deplores : The intimidation of one sex or more by another or others, whether that sex is chosen or by birth.In other words the United Nations does not like the idea of anyone being threatened or made to fear others just because they are of a different sex to those whom they fear and / or threaten them.Is Deeply Disturbed By : Government encouraged segregation of the sexes and suppression based on sex.The United Nations is also worried by the idea that sex or gender is used to seperate people from each other and removal of freedom and rights may be defined by sex ... Does Formally Recognise and Declare : That the rights of all sexes are equal and that this equality must be preserved in the interests of the rights of all citizens of Nation States United Nation member states.The U.N. says you - must - as a U.N. member state provide equal rights for all sexes, no matter what sex or how they came to be that sex.RESOLVES :Really operative clause time, ;)1. The Nation States United Nations legalises divorce, in all member states, for people in abusive marriages.If your being abused in any way in your marriage by your partner or partners, you have the right to leave the marriage via the divorce process, subject to the legal process of divorce, and even so, that process of divorce must also provide and ensure the party who was abused and files for divorce has equal rights to prevent inherent discrimination by any sex in the judicial process of the divorce ( seperation of property, custody, etc ) ... I work this from Article 4 quoted above as mentioned, and the concept and principles of this proposal and its sister resolution. 2. The Nation States United Nations calls upon all employers within member-states to provide equal chance at employment/ranking for all sexes.Pretty obvious. If your a womean and want to become an Arc Welder, you have the right to do so over a man who is less qualified then you. Just an example I provide there, mind you.The above conditions are recommendations applicable within reason in that they are open to interpretation by a member states legal system in regards to each individual case, under the condition that the legal system must act in an un-biased fashion in regard to these cases.In other words, nations do have some lee-way in how they institute these laws, but are - still - bound when they decide by article 4 as above.3. No UN member nation shall bar illustrations of internal or external genitalia when such illustrations are used for educational or informative purposes including those parts that are deemed 'unnecessary' for reproduction and/or offensive.So basically, the U.N. doesn't care about your " delicate sensibilities ", you are not to go ripping pages out of books such as medical journals in school or public libraries just because there is a diagram of a penis and related sexual organs on it. It is part of yours or someone elses body. Get used to it.4. Cosmetic surgery on genitalia at birth because a child's genitalia does not conform to what a nation believes as 'normal' for that sex is hereby prohibited in all UN member nations.Your nation thinks Sexual Organ A should be altered to look " better " or " less offensive " ? Too bad.

I would personally think male circumcision is still legal as it is usually done now days not just because of religious inclination, but because there is some evidence that a correctly carried out procedure can have minor health benefits in the long term.

As opposed to " Off with your testes, I need an enuch for my harem ". Which will certainly not be allowed.5. The practice of infanticide based only on the sex of the baby, or the ambiguity of sex, shall be prohibited in all UN member nations.No babies in trash-cans because of your national cultural values and one child per family policy, if you please. I need not be more clear then that, surely ?

And no killing " little billy " because he could also be a " little Betty ". Because over the years I'm sure it has hapened. In fact I'm sure its even been documented in RL ...6. Religious organisations, and jobs where you are required to play a role (eg actors) are exempt from clause 2b.The Black New World, I can't see a 2b any-more, I think you changed / dropped it ... so that should be just " 2 " I think ...

Means you can still have Priests of one sex and not another, and men can play women, and women can play as men in, errr, plays and other acts of, errr, acting, so to speak. So Bishops and Thespians can sigh with relief.

Right, I think thats about all ...

Operative clauses time ! Its just like christmas again !

Technically, those are inoperative clauses. Operative clauses are those which you labeled "really operative clauses."

As a tribute to Desdemona we thought we'd push this trough next week. Any comments?

Giordano,
Acting Senior UN representative,
The Black New World,
Delegate to The Order of The Valiant States

Deplores : The intimidation of one sex or more by another or others, whether that sex is chosen or by birth.


Wait! Does this mean we couldn't make fun of transsexuals anymore?

Why would you want to pass a resolution like that?

Wait! Does this mean we couldn't make fun of transsexuals anymore?

Why would you want to pass a resolution like that?

Yeah, isn't that in violation of a free speech resolution? I haven't actually checked, I'm just assuming. If it's not, it should be.

1. The Nation States United Nations legalises divorce, in all member states, for people in abusive marriages.

I've been wondering, since the Gay Marriage resolution, how long it would be before someone proposed a Gay Divorce resolution.
This proposal doesn't say anything about division of property held in joint tenancy, disposition of children, any of that stuff. Intentional?
I mean, is this intended to force us to have a legal system that can handle divorces too, or is this more like the arab "say it 3 times and kick her out" divorce?


2. The Nation States United Nations calls upon all employers within member-states to provide equal chance at employment/ranking for all sexes.

The above conditions are recommendations applicable within reason in that they are open to interpretation by a member states legal system in regards to each individual case, under the condition that the legal system must act in an un-biased fashion in regard to these cases.

6. Religious organisations, sex workers, and jobs where you are required to play a role (eg actors and models) are exempt from clause 2b.

Why should religious organizations get a pass? I'm not in favor of that.

And what impact do you intend this to have on physical qualifications for jobs? Yes, I'm talking about firefighters. Are you leaving it up to individual nationstates whether this means female applicants should still be required to meet the same lifting and carrying requirements as men?

Also, why no exemption for armies?


3. No UN member nation shall bar illustrations of internal or external genitalia when such illustrations are used for educational or informative purposes including those parts that are deemed 'unnecessary' for reproduction and/or offensive.

I'm all in favor of soft pron, but it doesn't belong in this bill. I thought we were talking about equal rights under the law.


4. Cosmetic surgery on genitalia at birth because a child's genitalia does not conform to what a nation believes as 'normal' for that sex is hereby prohibited in all UN member nations.

Cosmetic surgery on infant genitalia? I don't even know what to make of this one.
Is this directed at some specific nationstate who's government mandates this kind of thing?

Genital mutilation deserves its own resolution, but like (4), it doesn't make sense to me in this one.


5. The practice of infanticide based only on the sex of the baby, or the ambiguity of sex, shall be prohibited in all UN member nations.

This is something individual nations should be legislating, not the NSUN.

Is my memory playing tricks on me or did we try this before?

Why should religious organizations get a pass? I'm not in favor of that.

It's a matter of tradition. To go slightly OOC, in ancient Babylonia for example you always had priests or priestesses based on the god in question. If you are dealing with a goddess, its minister is a priest, if it is a god a priestess. In their culture, the religious roles of men and women were clearly defined and need to be protected if traditions and cultures are protected.

As a tribute to Desdemona we thought we'd push this trough next week. Any comments?

Giordano,
Acting Senior UN representative,
The Black New World,
Delegate to The Order of The Valiant States

Alright, we'll give it a whirl.


Equality of The Sexes is the sister proposal of 'The Sexes Rights Law'

The United Nations notes with sorrow the precedent in history and contemporary times where male dominated cultures infringe upon the rights of women. The following document is intended to both relieve and resolve much of these discriminative actions, not for one sex, but for all.

The United Nations :

Re-affirms and Re-states : Article 4 of The Universal Bill of Rights, implemented by the Nation States United Nations on Fri Aug 8 2003.

Deplores : The intimidation of one sex or more by another or others, whether that sex is chosen or by birth.

Is Deeply Disturbed By : Government encouraged segregation of the sexes and suppression based on sex.

Does Formally Recognise and Declare : That the rights of all sexes are equal and that this equality must be preserved in the interests of the rights of all citizens of Nation States United Nation member states.

Ok so far.



RESOLVES :

1. The Nation States United Nations legalises divorce, in all member states, for people in abusive marriages.

"legalizes".

Remove bolded.



2. The Nation States United Nations calls upon all employers within member-states to provide equal chance at employment/ranking for all sexes.

The above conditions are recommendations applicable within reason in that they are open to interpretation by a member states legal system in regards to each individual case, under the condition that the legal system must act in an un-biased fashion in regard to these cases.

Remove bolded.



3. No UN member nation shall bar illustrations of internal or external genitalia when such illustrations are used for educational or informative purposes including those parts that are deemed 'unnecessary' for reproduction and/or offensive.

Alright.



4. Cosmetic surgery on genitalia at birth because a child's genitalia does not conform to what a nation believes as 'normal' for that sex is hereby prohibited in all UN member nations.

Hmmmm... alright.



5. The practice of infanticide based only on the sex of the baby, or the ambiguity of sex, shall be prohibited in all UN member nations.

As long as its an infant and not something before birth, we're good here. And leaving it undefined works... for now.


6. Religious organisations, sex workers, and jobs where you are required to play a role (eg actors and models) are exempt from clause 2b.

I C No 2B. ;) We also see no conflict here - if a role calls for a female, then being a male removes you from consideration unless you are able to convincingly play a female within the role. See also Chinese Theater, Noh plays, etc and so forth.

I would personally think male circumcision is still legal as it is usually done now days not just because of religious inclination, but because there is some evidence that a correctly carried out procedure can have minor health benefits in the long term.

As opposed to " Off with your testes, I need an enuch for my harem ". Which will certainly not be allowed.

In the first, we see "cosmetic for appearances sake" not because of religious values, which would not be for aesthetic purposes, and as such would not fall under the clause.

As to "off with your testes" - that is not cosmetic surgery, it is a job requirement. :D

5. The practice of infanticide based only on the sex of the baby, or the ambiguity of sex, shall be prohibited in all UN member nations.

This is something individual nations should be legislating, not the NSUN.

Why? This is a human rights issue, and is definitely the business of the UN.

Equality of The Sexes is the sister proposal of 'The Sexes Rights Law'

The United Nations notes with sorrow the precedent in history and contemporary times where male dominated cultures infringe upon the rights of women. The following document is intended to both relieve and resolve much of these discriminative actions, not for one sex, but for all.

The United Nations :

Re-affirms and Re-states : Article 4 of The Universal Bill of Rights, implemented by the Nation States United Nations on Fri Aug 8 2003.

Deplores : The intimidation of one sex or more by another or others, whether that sex is chosen or by birth.

Is Deeply Disturbed By : Government encouraged segregation of the sexes and suppression based on sex.

Does Formally Recognise and Declare : That the rights of all sexes are equal and that this equality must be preserved in the interests of the rights of all citizens of Nation States United Nation member states.

RESOLVES :

1. The Nation States United Nations legalises divorce, in all member states, for people in abusive marriages.

2. The Nation States United Nations calls upon all employers within member-states to provide equal chance at employment/ranking for all sexes.

The above conditions are recommendations applicable within reason in that they are open to interpretation by a member states legal system in regards to each individual case, under the condition that the legal system must act in an un-biased fashion in regard to these cases.

3. No UN member nation shall bar illustrations of internal or external genitalia when such illustrations are used for educational or informative purposes including those parts that are deemed 'unnecessary' for reproduction and/or offensive.

4. Cosmetic surgery on genitalia at birth because a child's genitalia does not conform to what a nation believes as 'normal' for that sex is hereby prohibited in all UN member nations.

5. The practice of infanticide based only on the sex of the baby, or the ambiguity of sex, shall be prohibited in all UN member nations.

6. Religious organisations, and all professions where the differences in physical features between sexes affect how well an individual can perform the job are exempt from clause 2.

Rome W- we did try this before.

Vastiva- it's legalises deal with it :p

My- Your edits are in.

Komokom- The b has been cut.

Thanks for including my clause 6 edit. Hopefully now people won't keep thinking of exceptions.

Vastiva - "legalises" is correct under UK spelling.

Rome W- we did try this before.

Thanks for clarifying that. I was wondering why I got this sense of deja-vu and wondered if I was really going crazy.

Why? This is a human rights issue, and is definitely the business of the UN.
because if the NSUN rams it down the throats of countries, the ones that weren't on board will just ignore it.

c.f. china

Is my memory playing tricks on me or did we try this before?



It's a matter of tradition. To go slightly OOC, in ancient Babylonia for example you always had priests or priestesses based on the god in question. If you are dealing with a goddess, its minister is a priest, if it is a god a priestess. In their culture, the religious roles of men and women were clearly defined and need to be protected if traditions and cultures are protected.
well!

if "traditions and cultures are protected", we shouldn't be legislating at all.

The ancient Babylonians were messed up. No reason to base our societies on ours. It's not like they invented the internal combustion engine, or abstract algebra, or hardcore pron sites, or anything like that.

Either we're trying to make the world(s) a better place, or we're...
uh, I can't think of another reason to be here.

The ancient Babylonians were messed up. No reason to base our societies on ours. It's not like they invented the internal combustion engine, or abstract algebra, or hardcore pron sites, or anything like that.


But on the same topic they didnt' poison our world or create bombs capable of wiping humanity off the face of the planet. So I would say they are doing pretty well :}

Thanks for including my clause 6 edit. Hopefully now people won't keep thinking of exceptions.

Vastiva - "legalises" is correct under UK spelling.

We sit corrected.

But on the same topic they didnt' poison our world or create bombs capable of wiping humanity off the face of the planet. So I would say they are doing pretty well :}
Not so much.

There is no indication that, had they developed nuclear weapons, they would have refrained from using them on their neighbors.

Can we deny that the ancient Babylonians had huge asset inequality, high infant mortality, widespread hunger, and very low literacy?

We have only to look at present-day Iraq - or, to avoid topical controversy, Iraq 100 years ago - to see how badly the ancient Babylonians mismanaged their ecology. A couple thousand years ago, that was the fertile crescent; now it's desert because of their overfarming and poor topsoil management.

So, in summary, no. I don't think the ancient Babylonians are an appropriate model for utopia.

well!

if "traditions and cultures are protected", we shouldn't be legislating at all.

The ancient Babylonians were messed up. No reason to base our societies on ours. It's not like they invented the internal combustion engine, or abstract algebra, or hardcore pron sites, or anything like that.

Either we're trying to make the world(s) a better place, or we're...
uh, I can't think of another reason to be here.

They weren't "messed up"- they were just in a different time period. Societies were different back then (Hammurabi's "Eye for an Eye" law code was par for the course back then), so it's incorrect to say that they were weird because they're not like us, because they could never know what it would be to be us.

Besides, the Babylonians were expert engineers and scientists, being among the first people to make scientific observations regarding the Sun (as opposed to making a myth about it). They- like the Greeks later- would wind up being incorrect, but for they had, they did great and that has to count for something.

They weren't "messed up"- they were just in a different time period. Societies were different back then (Hammurabi's "Eye for an Eye" law code was par for the course back then), so it's incorrect to say that they were weird because they're not like us, because they could never know what it would be to be us.

Besides, the Babylonians were expert engineers and scientists, being among the first people to make scientific observations regarding the Sun (as opposed to making a myth about it). They- like the Greeks later- would wind up being incorrect, but for they had, they did great and that has to count for something.
I don't like the picture in your .sig, if only because New York is part of Jesusland.

Hokay, even if the Babylonians were a great bunch of geeks several thousand years ago, that's still no reason to model a NSUN sexual equality resolution after their society.

We sit corrected.
Too cold to stand in antarctica?

Too cold to stand in antarctica?

More comfy sitting down.

We also find it entertaining, out of an entire post, one spelling question was all that was paid attention to.

Fascinating, really.

Technically, those are inoperative clauses. Operative clauses are those which you labeled "really operative clauses."Quiet you,

>_>

<_<

And I plead not having had enough sleep, :p

I also admit of my own free will I was quoting the original, not the current at that time,

>.<

" d'oh "

We also find it entertaining, out of an entire post, one spelling question was all that was paid attention to.

Fascinating, really.
In fairness, others raised similar points to you and these were addressed. You also made a couple of recommendations that were minor edits (bolded in your post); I agree with these and would be interested to see a response.

Mathieu Vergniaud

OOC: Of course, if you still have me on 'ignore', then this post has been wasted. Ah, well.

We also find it entertaining, out of an entire post, one spelling question was all that was paid attention to.

Fascinating, really.

Probably because this is basically a well-written proposal that almost everyone agrees with. But yes, it is humorous.

I don't like the picture in your .sig, if only because New York is part of Jesusland.

Hokay, even if the Babylonians were a great bunch of geeks several thousand years ago, that's still no reason to model a NSUN sexual equality resolution after their society.

For the record, I retained that picture not because I agreed with the message of the picture (though I think it's a pretty stunning social commentary with some truth, but that's another debate) but because, as a Canadian, it makes California a part of Canada; and, for us Canadians, owning such a warm region would be a dream with our cold winters.

Oh, and New York State (including New York) is not in "Jesusland". The furthest north it goes on the east coast is West Virginia.

As for the Babylonians: my point was not to use the Babylonians as a model for our society but merely to provide an example where sexual roles can- for the lack of a better word- legitimately play a role in religion.

In fairness, others raised similar points to you and these were addressed. You also made a couple of recommendations that were minor edits (bolded in your post); I agree with these and would be interested to see a response.

Mathieu Vergniaud

OOC: Of course, if you still have me on 'ignore', then this post has been wasted. Ah, well.

We don't. It hasn't been.

We don't. It hasn't been.
Thank you.

A very important thing, and I agree to all the different points that have been mentioned already, equality is the most important thing in society according to me!

More comfy sitting down.

We also find it entertaining, out of an entire post, one spelling question was all that was paid attention to.

Fascinating, really.
Sorry. I picked on point from everyone who seemed to be making valid points so they knew they were being read. I'm still considering some of the other ones.

Giordano,
Acting Senior UN representative,
The Black New World,
Delegate to The Order of The Valiant States

WHIRRRRRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr....tictictictic..tic...tic.... tic...

Ooooh, and Vastiva gets "Spelling" for five hundred!

:p

Just thought I'd pop back and remind ( Though I'm sure few of you need it ) the good Representatives that not all requests may be taken into account, as there are no doubt some bits that The Black New World may not want to change, and I hope that despite the chane of that being so, that you'll still lend your mass to pushing this past when the time comes, ;)

Thanks K

Giordano,
Acting Senior UN representative,
The Black New World,
Delegate to The Order of The Valiant States

Equality of The Sexes is the sister proposal of 'The Sexes Rights Law'

The United Nations notes with sorrow the precedent in history and contemporary times where male dominated cultures infringe upon the rights of women. The following document is intended to both relieve and resolve much of these discriminative actions, not for one sex, but for all.

The United Nations :

Re-affirms and Re-states : Article 4 of The Universal Bill of Rights, implemented by the Nation States United Nations on Fri Aug 8 2003.

Deplores : The intimidation of one sex or more by another or others, whether that sex is chosen or by birth.

Is Deeply Disturbed By : Government encouraged segregation of the sexes and suppression based on sex.

Does Formally Recognise and Declare : That the rights of all sexes are equal and that this equality must be preserved in the interests of the rights of all citizens of Nation States United Nation member states.

RESOLVES :

1. The Nation States United Nations legalises divorce, in all member states, with no repercussions from the state or loss of rights

2. The Nation States United Nations calls upon all employers within member-states to provide equal chance at employment/ranking for all sexes.

The above are applicable within reason in that they are open to interpretation by a member states legal system in regards to each individual case, under the condition that the legal system must act in an un-biased fashion in regard to these cases.

3. No UN member nation shall bar illustrations of internal or external genitalia when such illustrations are used for educational or informative purposes including those parts that are deemed 'unnecessary' for reproduction and/or offensive.

4. Cosmetic surgery on genitalia at birth because a child's genitalia does not conform to what a nation believes as 'normal' for that sex is hereby prohibited in all UN member nations.

5. The practice of infanticide based only on the sex of the baby, or the ambiguity of sex, shall be prohibited in all UN member nations.

6. Religious organisations, and all professions where the differences in physical features between sexes affect how well an individual can perform the job are exempt from clause 2.

New!

The Delegate from Nargopia rises to his feet and applauds the new, improved proposal.

bump

That's a good addition

What if there is an issue about custody? That if Mrs Smith has been abusing her kids? Would this proposal prevent her from losing the right to see her children? (Or prevent her from losing custody of the children?)

" We " ( the U.N. ) doesn't really care. The point is not to totally define an new international divorce law set of acts ( I do think we should have some degree of the dreaded " Nat. Sov. " to play with still, ;) ), just to state that despite the cultural teachings OR current legal practice of a nation relating to sex of those in marriages ( Should we mention the marriage def act now TBlack ? ), etc, you - do - have the right to divorce no matter what your gender / sex is. See :The Nation States United Nations legalises divorce, in all member states, with no repercussions from the state or loss of rightsMeaning you've the right to divource and not to be persecuted for it by the state or to extend the meaning a little, society at large within that nation.

Its still up to individual national courts to go through all the messy " Well if I can't have Fido I'll just take a chain-saw to him " business of the divources.

The point is that even so, Article four ( the one refered back to to in the start ) if I remember right binds the court to further ensure fair-ness before the law, THUS in regards to making sure their is no discrimination by the judicial system due to the sex or other wise gender of a person who filed for divource.

We just want to say " you have the right to file for divource, free from discrimination due to sex / gender by society of the relating judicial system ". I think. Its just we have to be " wordy " with it to make sure it doesn't conflict with other stuff. Quite a bit has passed since we first tabled this up and TBlack ( and to an minor extent I too ) have to make sure we don't fuck up by missing something that could make a clause we put in redundant.

* TBlack, I am think to have a look at the Marriage Def act, to see if that can be tabled in to this divource rights clause.

That's okay then :}

Wait! Does this mean we couldn't make fun of transsexuals anymore?
Why would you want to pass a resolution like that?

As far as I can tell you can still laugh at them, but you can't chase them around with baseball bats. ;)

Alright, we're going live on Monday. Any objections?

Giordano,
Acting Senior UN representative,
The Black New World,
Delegate to The Order of The Valiant States

None. Give a heads up when.

OOC: Computer issues. I'll do it when I can. If anyone knows how to get my USB ports working again I'll love you forever.

Psychedelic Happenings support this proposal.

OOC: Computer issues. I'll do it when I can. If anyone knows how to get my USB ports working again I'll love you forever.
Are they dusty? Our ports at school are horribly dirty and are very unreliable. Try blowing in them to get the crap out. Haha, kind of like the good ol' days of Nintendo.

Are they dusty? Our ports at school are horribly dirty and are very unreliable. Try blowing in them to get the crap out. Haha, kind of like the good ol' days of Nintendo.
OOC: They had decided to turn them selves off.

Hmmm, if you've not pushed it up yet T.B. , might I suggest you hold off till a saturday or friday ? That way I can help you with the telegram camp. like you helped me with my half of the legis. last time. We'll also catch that bunch of week-enders and I think the monday crowd logging in from work or school after two days away.

* I can still help other-wise, but just sounding out your plans. Other-wise is fine, I'll just cram my lot through over the two nights it goes up. And this time, lets make it bloody well clear they should take their questions to the thread, only . That way, you won't get your telegram boxed " refreshed " several times over, every few hours when your away. and then eventually get because of which get " DUDE, WTF U NOT ANSR MY TG, WOT DA FUK U TINK U DOIN ????? WOT ??? "

( I'm " very free " on Sat, Sun, Mon and Tues thanks to a very nice TAFE class schedule for the first half of this year taking up the other three straight days, yay. )

Okies. First thing Saturday morning. I'll TG you when I put it up. You do front I'll do back?

5. The practice of infanticide based only on the sex of the baby, or the ambiguity of sex, shall be prohibited in all UN member nations.

You want me to take out the bit banning infanticide based on sex? Nope.

Giordano,
Acting Senior UN representative,
The Black New World

Okay !

* Wait. Do you mean total delegate number wise, or by alphabet ?

( Don't want to double up or miss a chunk of potential support, after all )

Not this again.... by alphabet.