NationStates Jolt Archive

Right, I proposed this proposal about a month ago, and it achieved quite a large supprt in the voting stage before being thrown out for making references to the real world. In accordence with some of the people who posted on this forum about the proposal at the time, i have posted my proposal here now before re-submitting it in case there is anything that is still not right about it, i will be re-submitting this early next week, probobly on the Monday or the Tuesday. feel free to make any comments you feel neccecery before i submit


OBSERVING that this proposal has the aim of legislating the production and growth of the marijuana plant (Cannabis Sativa) and using its properties in a controlled manner for the treatment of many dehabilitating diseases.

OBSERVING that research has shown that smoking cannabis can help to alleviate muscle trauma in patients with MS (Multiple Sclerosis); other patients have also reported reduced pain and easier movement of joints after mild doses of cannabis or cannaboids.

VOUCHING that independent studies in Many different areas of the world have proven that marijuana smoking is a very effective Antiemetic (relieves nausea and vomiting), and that it has also proved superior to current drugs, such as Torecan, Compazine, and even the synthetic THC pill.


RECOGNIZES that medcinal marijuana has signficant beneficial effects and no serious adverse ones; we propose that marijuana is legalised in all member states for medicinal purposes only when it would provide the most effective treatment

CONCLUDES that we believe this resolution will reduce the suffering of many of the worlds terminally ill patients, and therefore is an issue that all nations should take a positive interest in.

CONFIRMS that this resolution does not affect the current recreational drug policies of member nations. This resolution is ONLY to legilise Marijuana for Medicinal purposes in all member nations around the world, and has no effects on current recreational drug policies

well, its been over a day now, and only 12 people have looked at it, so i'm bumping it a little just in case theres still anyone who wants to coment. Someone did say to post here before i submit it, which i have done, so i shall submit it tomorrow evening then...

A: you can't count on the view numbers being correct. Jolt is being buggy about that.

B: you don't mention what Category you'll be proposing this under. If you use anything other than Recreational Drugs (legalize) it will probably be tossed, and if you do use Rec Drugs, even for this which clearly doesn't legalise Rec Drugs, it will nonetheless have a coded effect of reducing drug laws in all UN nations. I don't know what effect that would be, but I bet I wouldn't like it.

I feel that legalizing marijuana for any use should be up to the individual nation, not the UN.

I agree with Jeianga, the legalization of majiuanna is a cultural issue and cannot be imposed on other nations.

This is the problem with marijuana, it has a bad name, if i was campagning for the legislation of a mythical drug called 'quinzozene' or whatever, for medicinal use only, then there would be no fuss whatsoever. Its just that because people associate marijuana with stoned teenagers that it has an image problem, and most peopel jsut see the name 'marijuana' and think legilize, and hardly even stop to read the proposal.

I was going to stick it under human rights acts, as i, and my region, feel that it should be a human right to allow patients with serious illnesses the best and most effective treatment. It is only because marijuana is currently viewed as a recreational drug that it has to go in the 'recreational drug' catagory, despite the fact that the proposal has nothing to do with recreational drugs whatsoever.

This is a bunch of @#%%@@#!!!!. No matter how many supposedly "certified doctors " have approved this drug(thats what it is ) for consumption, it is still just a reason to smoke marijuana legally. Despite the efforts to sugar coat this topic, it is still a load of crap and a pseudo agenda for pot heads to get high without getting locked up. :sniper:

well thats your opinion, but despite their altered mindstaes, i doubt there will be many druggies who will get cancer just to get cheap pot... (and dont call me a pothead please, i have never smoked anything in my life before)

and yes, marijuana is indeed a drug, as is asprin and paracetamol...

Phil,

I find it ironic that you wish not to be stereotyped as a pothead for your views, but then stereotype my beliefs purely on the bases that I cannot support your proposal.

I am not in favor of support medical marijuana NOT because it has an "image problem", but because it is purely a National Issue, and not one for the UN to decide.

I also find it naive of you to not recognize the fact that marijuana *does* have bad side effects. You can argue all you want that other "legal" drugs have side effects as well, but it still won't change the fact that marijuana use is for the individual nation to decide - whether recreational or medicinal. I can easily compare this to a proposal that wants to outlaw coffee.

not really, coffee is a recreational drug, not medicinal(altough caffiene can be used in medicine), this policy does not stop teenagers from being arrested in the streets for smoking pot, nor does it legilise the buying and selling of cannabis from dealers. It merly allows docters to perscribe marijuana as a form of relief for patients with terminal illnesses

Yep. National governments prohibiting patients receiving the best medical drugs available is an infringement on the human rights of the patient.

Medical Marijuana does not treat any ailments. All it does is make the patient more comfortable.

For instance, the drugs used in chemotherapy makes the patient feel sick to the stomach, or a loss of apetite. Marijuana, in this case, would help the patient to keep eating without vomiting. BUT - there are medications that can do the same thing without the use of marijuana. I should know, my baby brother of 5 has gone through chemotherapy for the past three years without the help of pot. Pot does not cure cancer, chemotherapy does.

(Another question - would children be allowed marijuana for treatment?)

Marijuana is not accepted as a safe treatment for glaucoma:

Marijuana is not generally accepted as a safe and effective treatment for glaucoma. The American Academy of Ophthalmology (1992) stated: "There is evidence that marijuana (or its components), taken orally or by inhalation can lower intraocular pressure. However, there are no conclusive studies to date to indicate that marijuana (or its components) can safely and effectively lower intraocular pressure enough to prevent optic nerve damage. . . . The dose of marijuana necessary to produce a clinically relevant effect in the short term appears to produce an unacceptable level of undesirable side effects such as euphoria, systemic hypotension, and/or dry eye and conjunctival hyperemia in the majority of glaucoma patients in whom the drug has been carefully studied. No data have been published on studies of long-term ocular and systemic effects of the use of marijuana by glaucoma patients.

Marijuana seems to be only an alternative to manufactured medicines, and since individual nations decide on which medicines to approve, marijuana should not be any different.

I like this:

undesirable side effects such as euphoria

:rolleyes:

I know that it isn't a cure, rather for relief. But my point still holds that you are infringing on the patient's rights by denying them effective medicines.

But hey, I think all drugs should be legalised for recreational use (and would support a UN resolution to do this if possible), so I'm probably examining this question from a completely different basis to you.

I never said Pot was a cure for cancer, i just said it was a treatment, there is a large difference in medical terms. AIDS can be treated, but not cured, as is the same with many forms of cancer. Although chemotherapy can cure some types of cancer, other types are still uncurable,and chemo only prolongs the lifespan of the patient by a few months, or maybe years.

In answer to the question that would children be allowed this treatment, it depends on the smoking and medicine laws of the country involved, there are some drugs and treatment today which children are not allowed, so cannabis would be no different in this way.

I believe that patients should be able to recieve the best possible treatments and drugs for their conditions without having to go abroad for their illness. It shouls be up to the national government to provide the best possible treatment for the last years of their lives that is possible, if this means legilising controversial new drugs then so be it.

Marijuana reduces side effects, yes. So do many other legalized drugs. Should they not be allowed because they do not cure the disease but only minimize the negative effects of a course of treatment or symptoms of a disease? Obviously not.

I'm trying to see how euphoria is an undesirable effect but I can't quite manage it...

Medical Marijuana does not treat any ailments. All it does is make the patient more comfortable.
As do all pain relief medicines. Out the window with all of those, then, including most over the counter medications whose sole purpose is to reduce or alleviate symptoms and make the person "feel" better.

Pot does not cure cancer, chemotherapy does.
This isn't entirely accurate. Chemotherapy does not cure anything. It destroys the cells that are encoded with the disease. And not always - only in specific circumstances. If the cancer were cured, it wouldn't come back. Most of the time, it does. But, that isn't the issue. The issue is whether or not marijuana provides some benefit to a patient. If it provides a benefit, why not have it available as an alternative to whatever other medications there are that do the same thing. There is also the question of side effects. The side effects of pharmaceuticals is... well... scary. But apparently acceptable as there is no "moral" issue involved.

As to the glaucoma study, I'd be interested in hearing what pharmaceuticals are being used at this time to lower the ocular pressure enough to avoid damage and what the side effects of those pharmaceuticals are.

Disclaimer -- RL

Amphetamines are drugs that are quite common in medicinal treatments today. However, they are considered an illicit drug if not taken under prescription or according to regulations. I don't see how marijuana should be any different. It has been shown to be an effective painkiller when other pain treatments have failed.

Undesirable euphoria, that's funny.