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every regional delegate here needs to vote for the proposal 'legalize organized crime'-this will be a major breakthrough for NationStates! Thanks for all your support if you decide to vote for this!

Another M.O.S.S. proposal.

Please post a copy of it here. Many of us are not include to search through pages and pages of proposals to find a single one. After many we have seen, it's disheartening some of the ones there.

Hang on. If it's legalised, then it won't be crime, will it?

Logic error.

Hang on. If it's legalised, then it won't be crime, will it?

Logic error.
doh!

Legalize organized crime

A resolution to restrict political freedoms in the interest of law and order.
Category: Political Stability
Strength: Significant
Proposed by: Sicilyia

Description: 1.This proposal states that some legalized crime will be legalized, NOT ALL.
2.A new bureau will be created to handle all the buisness of the legalized groups.
3.All legalized crime groups shall abide by all previously specified terms.
4.These groups shall be legalized for the use of the states, and only the states.
5.These legalized groups will be used to reduce crime and keep the peace.
6.These legalized groups will act as a sort of super-police.
7.The public will never be notified of these legalized groups.
8.If a legalized group ever violates their rights, they shall be terminated immediately.
9.These groups shall only be permitted to perform hits on specified targets.
10.Unorderly conduct in these groups shall not be acceptable.
11.Unlegalized groups shall still be considered criminals and shall be treated as so.
12.All legalized groups shall swear to uphold the law of all states, and abide by it.
13.All legalized groups will be operated by the bureaus created for them.

Approvals: 4 (Lancott, Squab, The kevinngzh, Hyperlexia)
Status: Lacking Support (requires 140 more approvals)
Voting Ends: Sun Jan 23 2005


Aside from the first part being really badly written (some legalized crime will be legalized?) there is a good reason organized crime is illegal - it generally deals with the stuff that is pretty bad (drugs, human trafficking, firearms etc). It also doesn't say what crime will be legalized, and what crime won't - will this be in the hands of the nations or will this be detailed further?

No doubt about it, this is a resolution that needs to be consigned to the dustbin.

Agreed

A sensible proposal, considering that it comes from Sicily.

So, the cosa nostra would become a kafkaesque security bureau?

I'm having trouble picturing this.

My reading is that the proposer wants to set up some sort of assassin's guild. Not in favour.

Do I need to say anything?

The objective of criminals part of an organization is to make money. This proposal effectively forms hit-squads. Crime organizations generally only kill people because that person is affecting their profits. You see?

So we're bringing back Hitler's secret police, are we?

The Rogue Nation of Flibbleites will not support this proposal.

Legalize legalized crime? If it's already legalized, then it's not crime, and also you don't need to legalize it again.

This makes even less sense than the whole holographic library thing.

Am I actually reading this correctly? Legalize organized crime into a secret-super-police, hit-squad type group that can't violate anyone's rights or they'll be fired? ROFL

Someone has waaaaayyyyy too much time on their hands.

PRCC opposes the resolution on the grounds that it would cause damage to the control of the state and therefore endanger the political stability of the countries in which is is implemented.

I can't think of a creative way to say no.... No.

Giordano,
Acting Senior UN representative,
The Black New World,
Delegate to The Order of The Valiant States

Well this proposal is...original. That's all I got. ;)

Is this an attempt by the mafia to muscle in on the UN nations?

Well this proposal is...original. That's all I got. ;)
orignial, yes, but not that good. i know its been said before, but the wholething is illogical, and vague. i really don't thinksuch a vague, illogical law could be made.

In my opinion the proposal intends to permit governments to profit from organised crime. In RL we have/had examples for that: USA CIA, Italy Mafia, and so on. Corruption and Abuse will be right at hand. Don't open the door to hell, others did it before and it turned out bad.

how you get the idea that USA CIA is crime organization?
or the idea about the italian mafia as legal by the goverment?

anyway, this proposal is bad.

how you get the idea that USA CIA is crime organization?
or the idea about the italian mafia as legal by the goverment?

anyway, this proposal is bad.
The CIA is not a criminal organization (cough cough) - but it has been linked to past criminal behavior and/or involvement, and it is definitely organized.

Isn't organized crime, by definition, illegal?

Isn't organized crime, by definition, illegal?
All crime whether it's organized or not is illegal, because if it was legal then it wouldn't be crime.