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Governing Principles and Rules of Mercenary, Bounty Hunter, and armed forces for profit

Mercenary Groups:

1. Must abide by Geneva Convention standards.
2. Cannot act within boarders of UN member without:
i. Consent of the UN recognized government
ii. UN General Assembly or UN Security council resolution authorizing action
iii. As augmentation of authorized force of UN


3. In operating in realms outside UN
i. Must act with consent of UN Security of General Assembly
ii. As augmentation of UN forces
iii. If absence of i and ii cannot annex territory, establish permanent armed forces or systems of power for self
4. While in Employ
i. Contracts cannot be based on Kill numbers
ii. Certain high profile targets may gain extra bonuses
iii. High profile targets are to be defined as certain leadership individuals not groups
iv. Contracts must be based on wage system though expenses may be included
v. Either party at anytime may seek third party mediation
Bounty Hunters:
1. Must abide by laws of nation they operate not just the laws of their home base
2. Must seek only targets that are on Interpol watch list with current outstanding warrants.
3. Can seek individuals that have outstanding warrants of UN and Non-UN members provided they have been tried or arranged in a legal system recognized by UN charter
4. May terminate target only in cases:
i. of immediate threat of Death or serious injury of self
ii. of immediate threat of or serious injury of third party
iii. Has already been tried, convicted, and SENTENCED to death in accordance to 1, 2, and 3
a. Case of example: if nation A hired mercenary to capture or kill a convicted and sentenced individual but nation B in which sentenced individual is found does not legally allow death under any circumstances and conditions i and ii are not present then the bounty hunter cannot kill individual and only recourse is to apprehend.
Labor:
Both Mercenaries and Bounty Hunters must abide by fair labor practices recognized in UN Charter and Nations in which based.
Both Groups must have a built in council made up of equal parts of labor and management that hear grievances and settle contract dispute.
Both groups must recognize third party arbitration when labor dispute is unresolved.

Law:
Both Groups operating within UN must accept UN court rulings for or against them and cannot operate without a valid UN license. A license will be granted if group agrees to this resolution. If a breech of this charter has occurred, license will be suspended until proper restitution has been made or UN court clears member of wrong doing. If persistent breach occurs then License will be revoked.


Comments.

Do you agree with this poll or not?

Hang on a sec here.
Governing Principles and Rules of Mercenary, Bounty Hunter, and armed forces for profit
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Mercenary Groups:

1. Must abide by Geneva Convention standards.
Currently there are no Geneva Conventions. Some elements of those RL conventions have already been taken care of by previous resolutions, others haven't.
2. Cannot act within boarders of UN member without:
i. Consent of the UN recognized government
ii. UN General Assembly or UN Security council resolution authorizing action
iii. As augmentation of authorized force of UN
For a start I believe you mean borders, unless you want mercenaries to act within students who go to boarding schools.
i. What about countries using a parliamentary system, in which the government only consists of part of the greater political body? I refer to the Real world examples of Britain, Australia and New Zealand (I'm sure there are many others, but those three came to mind). Under this proposal, the opposition party/parties could be targetted.
ii. There is no UN Security Council. Not in NS, at least.
iii. The UN has no authority to command an armed force of any kind, mercenary or otherwise. So unless I'm misreading your proposal, this is illegal.


3. In operating in realms outside UN
i. Must act with consent of UN Security of General Assembly
? Do you mean Secretary rather than Security? Of course, there is no Secretary-General, so this is illegal.
ii. As augmentation of UN forces
See above
iii. If absence of i and ii cannot annex territory, establish permanent armed forces or systems of power for self
I have absolutely no idea what this is even supposed to mean.
4. While in Employ
i. Contracts cannot be based on Kill numbers
ii. Certain high profile targets may gain extra bonuses
iii. High profile targets are to be defined as certain leadership individuals not groups
iv. Contracts must be based on wage system though expenses may be included
v. Either party at anytime may seek third party mediation
Hang on. Are you trying to create an Assassin's Union? That's the only thing that seems to make sense given what you've said here.
Bounty Hunters:
1. Must abide by laws of nation they operate not just the laws of their home base
So I presume that bounty hunters would not be able to operate in Enn, given that the entire concept is illegal here. I'm sure that that is the case in other countries.
2. Must seek only targets that are on Interpol watch list with current outstanding warrants.
No Interpol. Real-world reference, illegal.
3. Can seek individuals that have outstanding warrants of UN and Non-UN members provided they have been tried or arranged in a legal system recognized by UN charter
This is another thing I really can't make any sense of. What is this supposed to mean?
4. May terminate target only in cases:
i. of immediate threat of Death or serious injury of self
ii. of immediate threat of or serious injury of third party
iii. Has already been tried, convicted, and SENTENCED to death in accordance to 1, 2, and 3
Okay, not an assassin's Union, just a union for mercs and bounty hunters.
a. Case of example: if nation A hired mercenary to capture or kill a convicted and sentenced individual but nation B in which sentenced individual is found does not legally allow death under any circumstances and conditions i and ii are not present then the bounty hunter cannot kill individual and only recourse is to apprehend.
Can you please re-write this with breaks - commas, periods, anything. What you currently have is unintelligible.
Labor:
Both Mercenaries and Bounty Hunters must abide by fair labor practices recognized in UN Charter and Nations in which based.
There is no UN Charter. Perhaps you meant passed resolutions.
Both Groups must have a built in council made up of equal parts of labor and management that hear grievances and settle contract dispute.
So now they are allowed to police themselves. This is a recipe for corruption.
Both groups must recognize third party arbitration when labor dispute is unresolved.
Third-party arbitration? What, you mean judges, magistrates and the like? Can you please re-write to make your intentions clear?

Law:
Both Groups operating within UN must accept UN court rulings for or against them and cannot operate without a valid UN license. A license will be granted if group agrees to this resolution. If a breech of this charter has occurred, license will be suspended until proper restitution has been made or UN court clears member of wrong doing. If persistent breach occurs then License will be revoked.
According to the resolution as currently written, mercenary and bounty hunters may not have to pay any attention to local, national, regional or international courts, with the exception of those set up by the UN. And as far as I am aware, the only UN court is the one set up as per the EON Convention on Genocide. So as long as mercs and bounty hunters do not try genocide, they are fine.
Comments.

Do you agree with this poll or not?
Well, I've made my comments. Much of the proposal is illegal, by making references to the real-world UN. The NSUN does not have a Security Council, a Secretary General or Interpol. A lot of the rest is unintelligible as currently written, while parts of it are worthy of condemnation.

Will we vote on this? Yes.

We will vote against it.

"Do I agree with this poll"? No.

Do I agree with this proposal? Also no.

Be careful, very careful, with the wording of any poll you present. They are intended to be judges of public opinion, but when you present an opinion with the poll (I hate this proposal but it is neccisary and I can't spell) it alters the way people vote. In this case you might get people voting against you just to piss you off because you spelled necessary wrong but either way you push the poll, it makes the entire gesture inaccurate and worthless.

I forgott the UN charter does not exist in this world. Also I tried to base this off existing labor Union legislations.
I was thinking about EO and other mercenary groups in Africa in the real world. EO was considered a good thing but previous incarnations were nothing more than warlords. I wanted something that would allow EO but not the warlords that exist in many of this world. I had proposed this with some freinds and this was the draft we had come up with.
Any sugestions revisons or similar proposals I will implement. Thnaks again for the feedback it always helped.

I forgott the UN charter does not exist in this world. Also I tried to base this off existing labor Union legislations.
I was thinking about EO and other mercenary groups in Africa in the real world. EO was considered a good thing but previous incarnations were nothing more than warlords. I wanted something that would allow EO but not the warlords that exist in many of this world. I had proposed this with some freinds and this was the draft we had come up with.
Any sugestions revisons or similar proposals I will implement. Thnaks again for the feedback it always helped.

Just keep trying. :) I have to admit that the idea of a convention on international bounty hunting sounds like a welcomed changed from our standard debates, and I'm interested in seeing what sort of changes you make. Always a good starting point is just drop real world references.

But in any event, my government is open to whatever future idea you are planning on proposing.