NationStates Jolt Archive


New propasal thoughts

Saysomething
15-01-2005, 00:23
seeeing as how my last propsal will die I have modified the existing one and resubmitted it.

SEEKING fairness and equality in the application of all resolutions;

NOTING the ongoing work which may result in the global decision of the sentience of the cetaceans (whales, dolphins, etc);

ACCEPTING the possibility of discoveries of extraterrestrial life through the works of the UN Space Consortium (created by the resolution of similar name);

AND IN VIEW of the Resolutions “BioRights Declaration” and the “Rights of Minorities and Women”;

THE UN HEREBY RESOLVES:

Article I: The words “Human” and “Human Being” shall apply equally to all residents of any UN member nation who have demonstrated sentience.

Article II: “Sentience” shall be defined as “the capacity for abstract thought and reasoning”.

Article III: A roster of all beings having demonstrated sentience shall be kept on permanent record in the UN.

Article IV: Any member of a species upon the record shall be considered "sentient" for purposes of Article I.

Article V: Sentience shall be determined by the ability to communicate.

Article VI: The UN does recognize any race as sentient as per Article III as a "person" and/or "human" and/or "human being" for purposes of enforcement of the many UN Resolutions using those words in their verbiage. In addition any race/species/ect. that fulfils the requirement for Article V shall immediately registered in the roster of Article III.

Article VII: All rights, privileges, and responsibilities of any human member of the UN shall be applied to any petitioning member.

First written by Vastiva

Thoughts reason's why the reluctance ect. :headbang:
DemonLordEnigma
15-01-2005, 00:37
seeeing as how my last propsal will die I have modified the existing one and resubmitted it.

Hmm. Shall be interesting.

SEEKING fairness and equality in the application of all resolutions;

NOTING the ongoing work which may result in the global decision of the sentience of the cetaceans (whales, dolphins, etc);

Thus, why I don't allow my people to eat them.

ACCEPTING the possibility of discoveries of extraterrestrial life through the works of the UN Space Consortium (created by the resolution of similar name);

Aliens have already been discovered. They visit Earth every day. For example, DLE is an alien nation that visits Earth daily.

AND IN VIEW of the Resolutions “BioRights Declaration” and the “Rights of Minorities and Women”;

One has to do with clones, the other with minorities and women. How are you tying them together?

THE UN HEREBY RESOLVES:

Article I: The words “Human” and “Human Being” shall apply equally to all residents of any UN member nation who have demonstrated sentience.

Which, considering your next article, excludes many members of humanity.

Article II: “Sentience” shall be defined as “the capacity for abstract thought and reasoning”.

Not all humans are capable of it, so it's a definition that shouldn't be used.

Article III: A roster of all beings having demonstrated sentience shall be kept on permanent record in the UN.

Bad idea. Very bad. The UN doesn't have the manpower to handle it.

Article IV: Any member of a species upon the record shall be considered "sentient" for purposes of Article I.

Which contradicts one part due to the variable nature of humans.

Article V: Sentience shall be determined by the ability to communicate.

Which includes most nonsentient species, as communication is a fundemental part of nature.

Article VI: The UN does recognize any race as sentient as per Article III as a "person" and/or "human" and/or "human being" for purposes of enforcement of the many UN Resolutions using those words in their verbiage. In addition any race/species/ect. that fulfils the requirement for Article V shall immediately registered in the roster of Article III.

Which means the UN is declaring pretty much everything sentient and, thus, becomming worthless.

If human scientists trying for centuries cannot come up with a definition that covers the entirety of humanity, how can a proposal writer expect to?

Article VII: All rights, privileges, and responsibilities of any human member of the UN shall be applied to any petitioning member.

Not bad.
TilEnca
15-01-2005, 01:56
And in regard to my previous comment I still think this is insane and a waste of time.